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RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
3. Somehow that does not surprise me ... I've felt that about America for a long time, that we
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 12:27 PM
Jul 2019

have more than our share of assholes in the world. tRump knew that and organized them into supporters. It's all quite pathetic, how so many can be so easily led around by the nose and so damn gullible and naive.

 

Cartaphelius

(868 posts)
10. Or just plain gullible.
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 01:01 PM
Jul 2019


I know that parsing does't improve to problem, sadly.

Not that there is a cure for blindly voting against your own best interests.

Turin_C3PO

(14,047 posts)
6. Yup,
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 12:33 PM
Jul 2019

it’s all about turnout. We have the numbers but do we have the will? Everyone needs to try and turn two non-voters into Democratic voters in 2020. Trump won’t be easy to beat but if we do everything correctly, we can still trounce him. It’s up to us.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
13. but we cannot rely on a fair and free election.
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 01:13 PM
Jul 2019

All indicators spell out tampering ahead.

And here's a stunner: The ES&S new system that South Carolina is just now buying runs on Windows 7 software, which Microsoft is about to stop supporting.

There are so many bugaboos already in place to screw up the elections.

The best info on election security issues is on twitter from a woman named Jennifer Cohn whose hair is on fire. @jennycohn1.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
8. My prediction? 45 will get roughly 45% of the vote.
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 12:44 PM
Jul 2019

Way more than he should get, but not enough to win. The real wild cards are electoral fraud and the electoral college.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
16. Trump 44 at right tilting rcp, 42.4 at 538
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 07:23 PM
Jul 2019

Real Clear Politics tilts right and always runs a bit more right than 538 dot com

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
17. popularity pools are not the same as likely votes
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 08:06 PM
Jul 2019

For both parties, there are many people who may not like their candidate, but will vote for them anyway because of party loyalty.

But then there is turnout. Elections are not won by changing people's minds. That almost never happens.

Elections are won by encouraging turnout.

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
18. You're right
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 08:11 PM
Jul 2019

It’s actually worse than you think Rubepublicabs are more likely to go out and vote for their Dear Leader, so 44% is actually underrating his support and chance to win re-election.

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