If the gop slashed a trillion from Medicaid, where does it go? What will poor sick folks do?

[Philosoraptor]

I just heard an expert of some sort on the Matthews show say that the paul ryan budget proposes cutting a trillion some odd bucks from helping poor sick people, including of course children.

What do they propose to do with all that money? What do they propose someone in desperate need of money and hospitalization do?

What the fuck? Why would they even do this? What possible good reason do they offer for literally telling the poor and sick to just go off somewhere and die quietly? Why do they still refer to themselves as good Christians?

Have they never read of of the quotes from Jesus H. Christ? Have they ever opened a frikkin' bible at all?

I know, they also want to slash spending on everything else we need out here too, education, science, healthcare, etc. etc.

Where in the hell is all that money supposed to go?

[TheMastersNemesis]

1. It Goes To Them And Their Rich Donors - The Suffering -----

does not matter to them. People forget that a lot of Medicaid dollars go to disabled people who cannot take care of themselves. That includes severely handicapped children. That includes home care support for families who need nurses aides, medical assistance, and other supportive services that will result in death if services are removed. Many of these families will go bankrupt and simply cannot care for these kids without assistance.

We know a family that cared for such a child for 17 years 24/7. It was 24 hour intensive care that meant that they were just about home bound. And they needed health care assistance. The child died just before they would have been taken off of Medicaid because at 18 the Medicaid comes to an end.

They do not care and are not Christians in the least. They simply believe in eugenics. That makes them no better than the Nazis literally.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

2. The money would be used to cover tax cuts for corporations and the rich.

Poor people are more than welcome to die, and stop putting a strain on the government.

That is the basic premise from what I can understand.

[cali]

3. I don't know what I'd do without Medicaid

In the past week alone, I had to go to the Pain Clinic at Fletcher Allen, the orthopedist dept at Dartmouth Hitchcock. I had a prescription for Percocet and one for Gabapentin. I had both land physical therapy and pool PT. I used my electro magnetic bone stimulator and my TENS unit- both of which Medicaid paid for. Next week I see my regular orthopedist and have more PT. Next month I see a neurologist.

Without Medicaid I will be truly fucked.

[haele]

4. It doesn't go anywhere. It becomes tax cuts and corporate welfare.

You must first realize that there is a large group of primarily well-connected, well-off (not necessarily wealthy, but very comfortable) and fortunate people who believe in the Horatio Alger American Dream, the Free Market, and "Charity" - that wealth is just a matter of "if you work hard enough and make the right choices, you will succeed". They do not recognize privilege (or networking) and opportunity as major factors in success, they only see the "struggle" that usually their parents did to get them the seed money and opportunities for their success.

When you hear these well-off, fortunate people talk, you begin to realize to most of them, there are simply a couple dozen million too many citizens in the US vying for the wages, jobs, and services that should be "appropriate" for people who are not professionals or have low skills. To them, these struggling people have made poor choices in life, and should just go away and be happy with whatever charity they are given from the "hard working" (fortunate) people and go away until "they" (the poor folk) do something significant enough to be worthy of a living wage.

It's a form of social narcissism - where about 1/4 of the nation is supposed to only exist when needed, and then disappear back behind the servant's door and wait in limbo until called back to work.
Unfortunately, the "extra" IT specialist laid off so that the shareholder companies could realize their expected additional 2% yearly return is attempting find sufficient work that isn't there anymore to raise the family and pay off the mortgage he (or she) acquired when making six figures ten - fifteen years ago and can't just "disappear" - nor do the needs of that family that the specialist had been raising or the community they were living in.

It isn't until the fortunate ones get bit hard in the butt that they realize how mind-numbingly self-conceited and self-entitled they were. Heck, I know government workers who got graduate degrees through the GI bill and tuition assistance that think they did it themselves. "I've got to move out of this country - why should I pay taxes when I worked hard and people who lay on their asses all day get welfare?"
(This from a Senior Engineer/retired military officer who's college aged kids suffer from Rich Kids syndrome, and don't understand why they have to work and get good grades because Daddy (and Mommy) indulge them and will pay for everything for them anyway...talk about projection much?)

We all helped build their wealth, through services, infrastructure, opportunities, regulations, and a community of "customers". But they only see it as "their wealth".

Haele

[Yavin4]

5. Good Post, But You're Wrong About One Thing

It isn't until the fortunate ones get bit hard in the butt that they realize how mind-numbingly self-conceited and self-entitled they were.

When they "get bit hard in the butt", they blame Black people and Mexican immigrants for their newly found economic misery. They never develop any sense of self-awareness, nor will they blame the predominantly White vulture capitalist class.

Case in point, when the housing bubble popped and the financial crisis ensued, did they blame the banks? Did they blame AIG? Did they blame de-regulation of financial markets? Hell no. They blamed the Community Re-Investment Act and the myth that the housing crisis was created by government forcing banks to write mortgages to Black people.

[LiberalFighter]

6. There are at two problems with religions.

Ministers don't always preach the right thing.

Parishioners don't hear or remember everything the preacher preaches.

[SoCalDem]

7. die

[Philosoraptor]

8. ............

[eridani]

9. They will die, as Grayson pointed out quite awhile ago

70% of old people in nursing homes are dependent partly or totally on Medicaid. They get dumped into the streets to die.

[Philosoraptor]

10. Only in America.........