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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 07:50 AM Jul 2019

A black female actress is taking on the role of 007 and men are seriously triggered

Bond 25 is going to have a black, female 007.

According to reports, British actor Lashana Lynch, who recently appeared as a fighter pilot in Captain Marvel, will be introduced as the new 007 in the next installment.

A film insider told Mail on Sunday that in the upcoming feature film she will be tracking Daniel Craig’s character and bringing him out of retirement for a new mission.

The insider said: “There is a pivotal scene at the start of the film where M [played by Ralph Fiennes] says, ‘Come in 007', and in walks Lashana who is black, beautiful and a woman.”

It’s a popcorn-dropping moment. Bond is still Bond but he’s been replaced as 007 by this stunning woman.


[link:https://www.indy100.com/article/bond-25-lashana-lynch-female-007-role-cast-release-date-trailer-9005131|

Some racist and sexist right wing snowflakes are having a meltdown

My favourite:



A perfect example of why we have to worry about toxic masculinity affecting our young men's emotional development...
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A black female actress is taking on the role of 007 and men are seriously triggered (Original Post) Soph0571 Jul 2019 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author FBaggins Jul 2019 #1
I'd oppose it too... if I didn't read the article FBaggins Jul 2019 #2
This is a serious problem zipplewrath Jul 2019 #3
Amen colorado_ufo Jul 2019 #4
So very this! Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #5
Bubbles Aussie105 Jul 2019 #6
Good points... LessAspin Jul 2019 #8
Does this mean I should stop wearing my stylish James Bond terrycloth 'onesie'? Brother Buzz Jul 2019 #48
"I" don't wonder why men today are so weak... ret5hd Jul 2019 #7
:O TommyCelt Jul 2019 #9
I'd bet that Cooper's favorite movie is "300." OneBro Jul 2019 #10
This is cool hurple Jul 2019 #11
It IS cool ... and a welcome update to an aging film franchise (n/t) Auggie Jul 2019 #34
Richard Cooper perfect example of a weak man rpannier Jul 2019 #12
The woman will not "be Bond." She will be 007. cwydro Jul 2019 #39
But will she have the kiss of death? That will really make them hurl. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #13
So a female James Bond can't have fast cars and fast women? wyldwolf Jul 2019 #14
She's not playing Bond Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #17
The modern world drives them bananas. They should prepare themselves to live a life of misery, Politicub Jul 2019 #15
The article doesn't fully explain Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author RhodeIslandOne Jul 2019 #19
"Bond is still Bond but he's been replaced as 007 by this stunning woman" seems straightforward muriel_volestrangler Jul 2019 #31
I've never seen a James Bond movie TlalocW Jul 2019 #18
No, this blows that theory up RhodeIslandOne Jul 2019 #20
Okay so they have a different codename for women TlalocW Jul 2019 #24
Skyfall.... RhodeIslandOne Jul 2019 #45
I said similar on Twitter yesterday MurrayDelph Jul 2019 #35
Your loss nt Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #38
Maybe but TlalocW Jul 2019 #43
No Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #44
Sometimes I wish the internet was never invented. tymorial Jul 2019 #21
Social media provides a platform to spread racist opinion we'd probably never see or hear ... Auggie Jul 2019 #33
poor baybies. the 13 dr is also female and i like her charchter AllaN01Bear Jul 2019 #22
I hate to break it to them SCantiGOP Jul 2019 #23
Sorry - A bridge too far packman Jul 2019 #25
Sarcasm, right? HopeAgain Jul 2019 #26
Hmmmmm.i grew up with that same James Bond MontanaMama Jul 2019 #27
M was a woman for what? 20 years or so... Wounded Bear Jul 2019 #28
Lol EarlG Jul 2019 #29
I've read a few of the Bond books and... Mike Nelson Jul 2019 #30
It Sounds To Me RobinA Jul 2019 #32
I've seen a Bond movie or 2. maxsolomon Jul 2019 #36
Richard Cooper is the equivalent of a "make me a sammich" ismnotwasm Jul 2019 #37
The owner of the rights to to the Ian Fleming books rusty fender Jul 2019 #40
I bet more than simply triggered. silentEcho Jul 2019 #41
Either it will be successful or it won't Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2019 #42
k&r Demovictory9 Jul 2019 #46
It's a fictional role! Generic Brad Jul 2019 #47

Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

FBaggins

(26,773 posts)
2. I'd oppose it too... if I didn't read the article
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 08:09 AM
Jul 2019

The clear implication is that the role of James Bond will now be played by a female. That would be ridiculous of course.

I can’t see why anyone would object to a retired Bond being replaced as 007 by a different character.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
3. This is a serious problem
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 08:18 AM
Jul 2019

I don't mean the whole female Bond thing. I mean look at what Mr. Cooper wrote. He wrote about a fictional character that was basically a live action cartoon. He was a goof. He was a joke in many ways. He was a fantasy of a human that represented nothing of reality. And Mr. Cooper holds him up as some sort of model for excellence.

For far too long culture has accepted these absurd characters as some sort of model excellence. They aren't anymore than the road runner or Bugs Bunny. But people grow up accepting the various "action heros" as some sort of example of "how things should be". This isn't new. John Wayne made a career out of portraying absurd characters meant to represent some sort of reality. We've created the concept of the "super soldier" when in reality none exist or have ever existed. Robin Hood never existed. The Godfather was never someone to be admired. There is no John McClain, he would have been dead in minutes. These people aren't real, and don't represent reality.

Look, I can enjoy a bit of fantasy as much as the next person. But at the end of the movie, we're supposed to come back to reality.

Aussie105

(5,444 posts)
6. Bubbles
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 08:31 AM
Jul 2019

You just destroyed a lot of peoples' reality bubbles.

Next, you will tell me that #45 ISN'T a rich, super smart businessman who can run the country like a business better than any politician?

But I agree, people who aren't sure of what their own reality looks like, might think of themselves as another James Bond, Clint Eastwood, Bruce Willis or Vin Diesel. Then they find out James Bond is a female?
The consequences will be dire!

Personally, I hope that any sex scenes will be handled a bit more maturely and realistically than in any previous Bond movies.
No, I hope there aren't any.

LessAspin

(1,156 posts)
8. Good points...
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 09:02 AM
Jul 2019

Which also helps to explain why the Military has long sought to use Hollywood as a recruiting tool.



OneBro

(1,159 posts)
10. I'd bet that Cooper's favorite movie is "300."
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 09:11 AM
Jul 2019

Men like Richard Cooper have been weak their whole lives. They’ve been artificially propped up by images of Jesus and Santa Clause as white men and a whole host of white comic book superheroes. The election of Obama left them permanently triggered and fearful that in a world where they actually have to compete, people like Limbaugh and Trump would never make it out of the starting gate.

People like Cooper took comfort when Tom Cruise played “The Last is Samurai,” when Scarlett Johansson played the lead in Ghost of a Shell,” but they are apoplectic that a black woman has been cast as Ariel in “The Little Mermaid.” There’s actually a #notmyariel Twitter feed.

In short, adhering strictly to source material is critical to people like Cooper when the material coincidentally portrays white as right because they see those images as part of their HERITAGE. This is particularly true with the weakest of weak men like Cooper and Trump. I’m their minds, James Bond, Jesus, Santa Clause and Ariel all MUST . . . BE . . . WHITE because, well, they just gotta.

hurple

(1,306 posts)
11. This is cool
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 09:13 AM
Jul 2019

They're not replacing James Bond, just expanding the lore to show that the agent designations are reassigned. I don't see where the indignation comes from.

Thumbs up from me.

58Sunliner

(4,412 posts)
13. But will she have the kiss of death? That will really make them hurl.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 09:22 AM
Jul 2019

Don't most of the women in 007 come to an untimely end?

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
17. She's not playing Bond
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 09:28 AM
Jul 2019

Daniel Craig still is. She is another character who has been given the 007 code number after Bond retired.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
15. The modern world drives them bananas. They should prepare themselves to live a life of misery,
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 09:25 AM
Jul 2019

because we're never going back.

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
16. The article doesn't fully explain
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 09:25 AM
Jul 2019

that she is not playing Bond. She is another character who has been given the 007 code number.

Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #16)

TlalocW

(15,392 posts)
18. I've never seen a James Bond movie
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 09:30 AM
Jul 2019

But I think this lends credence to the theory that James Bond/007 is a code name for whatever MI6 agent at the time is reckless enough to do all the stupid/crazy shit they do to get the job done, and because of this, they have a relatively short shelf life (we only see the successful mission(s)) so there's no big blowback on MI6.



TlalocW
 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
20. No, this blows that theory up
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 09:38 AM
Jul 2019

She’s only taking his 00 code, not his name, as far as we know.

It’s being acknowledged Daniel Craig is still James Bond, but retired and without a 00 number.

TlalocW

(15,392 posts)
24. Okay so they have a different codename for women
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 10:15 AM
Jul 2019

Which they could have used previously in the Bond world - we don't know, or she could have said, "Yeah, fuck that shit. Just call me by my regular name," and the previous 007 was presumably smarter than his predecessors and retired. If he had been replaced by a man, that guy would be James Bond. Until then, even in retirement, he holds the title.

Theory holds.

TlalocW

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
45. Skyfall....
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 09:21 PM
Jul 2019

....confirmed his family name as Bond anyway.

If you’ve never seen one I’ll give you a pass.

They say that 95 percent of people who’ve watched a movie have seen a Bond film by the way.

MurrayDelph

(5,301 posts)
35. I said similar on Twitter yesterday
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:11 PM
Jul 2019
I always thought that "James Bond - 007" is akin to "The Santa Clause," or "The Dread Pirate Roberts": the name and title go to whoever has the job, not just in "the real world" but in the characters' universe.

But what I said about the Black Little Mermaid is also on point:

My biggest hope is that they write and direct a good movie this time (unlike so many of the "reimaginings" ), because if they don't produce a good movie, and it tanks, they're going to blame the casting and not the product.

Auggie

(31,204 posts)
33. Social media provides a platform to spread racist opinion we'd probably never see or hear ...
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:07 PM
Jul 2019

in the "old" days. You know, like the year 2000.

AllaN01Bear

(18,492 posts)
22. poor baybies. the 13 dr is also female and i like her charchter
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 09:46 AM
Jul 2019

good luck to her.
we have the same issue in star trek. must be the original series , must be shatner, deforest kelly etc and musnt deviate from the original show time line or some "fans " go conpletly out of kilter.to me its just a tv show and or movie , give it a break. i wish this new bond well.

SCantiGOP

(13,874 posts)
23. I hate to break it to them
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 09:56 AM
Jul 2019

but James Bond passed away several decades ago from lung cancer, cirrhosis of the liver and syphilis.
Turned out his lifestyle was more dangerous than the enemy agents.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
25. Sorry - A bridge too far
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 10:17 AM
Jul 2019

And the female Capt. Marvel was a bust also.

- Let the anti-women, misogynist replies begin. HEY, some of my best friends are females--

MontanaMama

(23,343 posts)
27. Hmmmmm.i grew up with that same James Bond
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 10:23 AM
Jul 2019

who drove fast cars and surrounded himself with fast women. It just occurred to me that this new 007 might surround herself with fast women too! That ought to make Richard Cooper’s tiny little pea brain explode.

Wounded Bear

(58,726 posts)
28. M was a woman for what? 20 years or so...
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 10:26 AM
Jul 2019

several movies. The "Bond" movies have gone so far away from the original books it's crazy. I don't bother to catch them any more, usually.

Movies in general are just a bunch of special effects, explosions and shit. Throw in how expensive they are now and I don't go to them.

EarlG

(21,972 posts)
29. Lol
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 10:39 AM
Jul 2019

Richard Cooper grew up watching James Bond's misogynistic shenanigans and it clearly didn't do him any harm!



I also grew up watching James Bond and I loved those movies -- when I was a kid and didn't know any better. Looking back at them now they are mostly just embarrassing.

Excellence. Focus. Competency.



James Bond.

Mike Nelson

(9,970 posts)
30. I've read a few of the Bond books and...
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 10:45 AM
Jul 2019

... seen more than a few Bond films. I'm not seeing him as female. However, this casting is for a new character, and it sounds exciting!

RobinA

(9,896 posts)
32. It Sounds To Me
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:00 PM
Jul 2019

like a great way to glom off a zillion dollar franchise while at the same time placating the clamoring masses by adding Identity X, Identity Y and Identity Z in a semi-acceptable way (it's not REALLY James Bond) and all while not coming up with a single new idea.

White guys shouldn't be upset about this stuff, it's just more of the non-white, non-guy portions of the population wanting to play - white guy characters.

maxsolomon

(33,419 posts)
36. I've seen a Bond movie or 2.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:12 PM
Jul 2019

It's Craig's last Bond role. She'll die heroically and tragically; he'll come out of "retirement" and reassume the number. End credits.

I know Phoebe Waller-Bridge is writing it, but the standard tropes will apply in the end.

Everyone calm down. It's just another movie.

ismnotwasm

(42,014 posts)
37. Richard Cooper is the equivalent of a "make me a sammich"
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:14 PM
Jul 2019

Neckbeard weirdo.

But yes it’s hilarious to watch the freak outs.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
40. The owner of the rights to to the Ian Fleming books
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:27 PM
Jul 2019

decides who will play Bond.

Of course the men whining that Bond, 007, or any particular character who has previously been portrayed as a man must always be played by a man will still whine because their weak psyche depends on fictional characters with whom they identify.

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