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How can a person be racist if they friends who are black? (Original Post) RAB910 Jul 2019 OP
DURec leftstreet Jul 2019 #1
Great analogy.... Pachamama Jul 2019 #2
Kick dalton99a Jul 2019 #3
Well done! UpInArms Jul 2019 #4
The same reason most African Americans have at least one slaveowner in our family tree StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #5
BOOM! onecaliberal Jul 2019 #6
ask sally hemmings NatBurner Jul 2019 #7
They will say, "But he is one of the good ones." about their black acquaintance. cutroot Jul 2019 #8
Grr. dchill Jul 2019 #16
You can also be a racist against your own race or a human who hates other humans Beringia Jul 2019 #9
As when the most vile homophobic politicians and religious leaders are homosexual themselves. hunter Jul 2019 #12
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2019 #13
Yes indeed, and I've seen that here. cwydro Jul 2019 #18
Republican proof. moondust Jul 2019 #10
Profound! BarbD Jul 2019 #11
Ahh yes, the bullshit racist's defense... Caliman73 Jul 2019 #14
I admit my speciesism. Goodheart Jul 2019 #15
lol TalenaGor Jul 2019 #17
I'll have to save this thread. Behind the Aegis Jul 2019 #19

hunter

(38,312 posts)
12. As when the most vile homophobic politicians and religious leaders are homosexual themselves.
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 12:52 PM
Jul 2019

There are also misogynistic women.

The Republican Party is full of people like this.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
18. Yes indeed, and I've seen that here.
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 03:00 PM
Jul 2019

A poster wrote about how they didn’t care for others of their race who hung out with white people, and they obviously did that because they were too “unhip” to hang out with their own race. I was gobsmacked.

Now, I’ve never been “hip,” nor have I cared one way or another about it, but I have had friends of many races. Go figure. I guess my “hipness” wasn’t an issue to them.

The poster didn’t call those particular “unhip” people “Uncle Toms,” but he/she might as well have.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
14. Ahh yes, the bullshit racist's defense...
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 01:10 PM
Jul 2019

If it weren't such a cynical troll question I would say that conservatives are just stupid (which many likely are). Racism is not overt hatred and active discrimination against people. The hatred and discrimination are cognitive and behavioral results of the mindset of racism. Racism allows you to dehumanize people based on the color of their skin.

The human mind is complex, and can hold contradicting ideas simultaneously, though psychologists theorize that this causes psychic discomfort (dissonance) and causes the person to make rationalizations. As others have said, "He's one of the good ones..." They create outliers while still holding the core belief that on a macro level, Black people are just inferior to White people. When more Black people get arrested and harshly sentenced for doing the exact same thing, the racist thinks, "well, it's because Black people just commit more crime" or "They must have done something to deserve the harsher sentence". They will likely not say any of that when their "Black friend" comes around, but they still hold those beliefs.

It goes to the binary thinking that is typical of conservatives. They either cannot or more likely choose not to understand complexity in behavior both on a personal and systemic level. For the world to make sense to them it has to be either or. You aren't racist unless you are burning crosses on Black people's lawns and trying to lynch them.

Racism is one way of defining human value and creating mental structures that shape the way to view behavior. It is the way in which when a Black person or Brown person does something negative, it has historically said something the about entire group of Black and Brown people but when they do something positive, they are rising above their group and conversely, when a White person does something horrible, they are an outlier, an aberration, but when they do positive things, they are representing the virtue of the group.

Racism does not necessarily preclude other mindsets and it can certainly be suspended and modified to allow for people to have personal relationships with individuals because racism is not necessarily about individuals but about how we see groups of people and categorize them as a whole.

Goodheart

(5,324 posts)
15. I admit my speciesism.
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 01:10 PM
Jul 2019

I've heard some protest "I am not a speciesist! Some of my best friends have been dogs!"

To which I've replied: "I've had dog friends, too, but they're my inferiors. And if they don't like it they can go back to the pound they came from."

Behind the Aegis

(53,957 posts)
19. I'll have to save this thread.
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 03:06 PM
Jul 2019

Given I am not black, I don't often hear this excuse, though I have on occasion. No, for me, it is "my grandparents were Jews", "He has Jewish family members", "I have plenty of Jewish friends" and "Well, this random Jew I found, agrees with me." Then there's the whole queer thing, which takes on a life of its own; "I have a gay parent", "My BFF is a gay", "I get me dicked sucked by a dude every now and again and I like it", " I regularly attend pride events/go to gay bars/meet with gays".

Yup, there is a certain lot, when confronted with their own bigotry, have to show off their credentials and as someone said above, there are plenty of people within a target minority, who are just as (or almost as) bigoted against their own kind as majority bigots are. Ahhh, internalized racism/homophobia/anti-Semitism/sexism/misogyny/etc...

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