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LEW

(1,072 posts)
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 04:21 PM Jul 2019

Neil Kotchel just summed up Muellers testimony amazingly

He said that the applicable rules at the time of the investigation ruled what he could do,period. But, that after Barr probably ended the Muellers time and said that he had to finish the report...then we saw what Barr did,......but Neal just said that when Barr spoke and put his opinion on the report, that that opened the door for Mueller to now allow to openly counterdict what Barr put forward as fact....Wednesday may be better than currently expected?????

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Neil Kotchel just summed up Muellers testimony amazingly (Original Post) LEW Jul 2019 OP
Smart fellow that Neal Katyal is. spanone Jul 2019 #1
Barr may have opened the door as Neil Katyal says PRETZEL Jul 2019 #2
Hope so! Karadeniz Jul 2019 #3
Katyal? The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #4
Yes, and it's Neal nt lillypaddle Jul 2019 #21
I'd love to see Mueller tear Trump a new one in his testimony... Girard442 Jul 2019 #5
+1, if America's election system is under attack I'd think a Marine would go as close to full Rambo uponit7771 Jul 2019 #8
On the twelfth day of Fitzmas ... FiveGoodMen Jul 2019 #14
Same here, saidsimplesimon Jul 2019 #25
Nooooo qazplm135 Jul 2019 #6
Yup. old guy Jul 2019 #22
Then it will be Democrats fault watoos Jul 2019 #29
I see this scenario as extremely optimistic stopdiggin Jul 2019 #7
Robert Muellers statement - last paragraph... asiliveandbreathe Jul 2019 #9
Neal is smart. Comey is smart. Others are smart. Is there someone dem4decades Jul 2019 #10
According to Jerry Nadler last night on Chris Hayes oregonjen Jul 2019 #12
i just hope mopinko Jul 2019 #18
I have no doubt that this will be carefully orchestrated. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #23
no, Comey isn't that smart JI7 Jul 2019 #26
Comey is very smart. His problem wasn't a lack of brains, but The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #27
Comey THOUGHT he was protecting the integrity of the system stopdiggin Jul 2019 #35
He also listed the *ONLY* three questions needed to be asked of MUELLER: UTUSN Jul 2019 #11
Amen MontanaMama Jul 2019 #15
I think that Mueller will answer honestly SouthernIrish Jul 2019 #13
One can only hope. Firestorm49 Jul 2019 #16
I don't know how much air I can pump back into my deflated Muller hope-balloon. But I'll be watching NBachers Jul 2019 #17
keep pumping!!! LEW Jul 2019 #19
I will believe it when I hear it. Pepsidog Jul 2019 #20
We keep hoping Mueller will save us. I don't see it happening. jalan48 Jul 2019 #24
I sincerely hope Snackshack Jul 2019 #28
I doubt much will come of it. Mueller is proven to be a "good" Republican foot soidier LiberalLovinLug Jul 2019 #30
Yep Cosmocat Jul 2019 #36
i don't think Mueller will save the Union. He had that chance. richsonpoordad Jul 2019 #31
What does Mueller fear? Novice Patriot Jul 2019 #33
The smart thing to to 90-percent Jul 2019 #32
I hope Dem questioners were watching Nicole Wallace today. nt Hamlette Jul 2019 #34
Neal is saying that Barr orally rescinded the DOJ 1973 "Do Not Indict" policy. Marcuse Jul 2019 #37

spanone

(135,832 posts)
1. Smart fellow that Neal Katyal is.
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 04:24 PM
Jul 2019

Neal Kumar Katyal is an American lawyer and partner at Hogan Lovells, as well as Paul and Patricia Saunders Professor of National Security Law at Georgetown University Law Center. Katyal served as Acting Solicitor General of the United States from May 2010 until June 2011. Wikipedia

Born: March 12, 1970 (age 49 years), Chicago, IL

Nationality: American

Full name: Neal Kumar Katyal

Spouse: Joanna Rosen (m. 2001)

Education: Yale Law School (1995), Dartmouth College (1991), Loyola Academy, Wilmette

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
2. Barr may have opened the door as Neil Katyal says
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 04:24 PM
Jul 2019

but will Mueller walk through it,

that is what everyone is asking about next week.

Girard442

(6,072 posts)
5. I'd love to see Mueller tear Trump a new one in his testimony...
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 04:29 PM
Jul 2019

...but history does not make me feel like putting money down on that.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
8. +1, if America's election system is under attack I'd think a Marine would go as close to full Rambo
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 04:35 PM
Jul 2019

... as legal and acceptable.

If not, then things aren't that bad ... if they ARE that bad and Mueller says ... RELATIVELY ... nothing then he's done the country a disservice.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
25. Same here,
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 05:55 PM
Jul 2019

I hope our Democratic representatives will stick with questions that are worthy of a legal inquiry. Make all citizens proud of our Democratic, elected Representatives, regardless of party.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
29. Then it will be Democrats fault
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 06:31 PM
Jul 2019

For asking bad questions. How prepared Dems are is the key to this hearing, Mueller will answer truthfully.

stopdiggin

(11,308 posts)
7. I see this scenario as extremely optimistic
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 04:30 PM
Jul 2019

Mueller could chose to be helpful (particularly by pointing to other sources and possible methods for attaining info), but all indications to this point indicate that he still considers himself bound by the same rules (and ethics?) that applied when he was conducting the investigation. In other words, I doubt doors opened up as a result of Barr's actions .. and his stated intent is to basically parrot the (acceptable) findings in the report.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
9. Robert Muellers statement - last paragraph...
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 04:42 PM
Jul 2019
And I will close by reiterating the central allegation of our indictments: That there were multiple, systematic efforts to interfere in our election, and that allegation deserves the attention of every American.



http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/05/robert-muellers-statement-full-speech-transcript.html

dem4decades

(11,294 posts)
10. Neal is smart. Comey is smart. Others are smart. Is there someone
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 04:47 PM
Jul 2019

Else smart that is overseeing and orchestrating the questioning of Mueller or is each Congressman developing the own line of questions?

oregonjen

(3,338 posts)
12. According to Jerry Nadler last night on Chris Hayes
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 04:51 PM
Jul 2019

Nadler confirmed that they are working together in forming questions in a calculated way to get the most info out of Mueller. He said that with a slight smile, which was encouraging to see.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
23. I have no doubt that this will be carefully orchestrated.
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 05:51 PM
Jul 2019

These are the Judiciary and Intelligence committees, which are staffed, at least on the Dem side, with a lot of smart people, including former prosecutors.

The Intelligence Committee (Dems):

Adam Schiff, Chairman
Jim Himes
Terri Sewell
Andre Carson
Jackie Speier
Mike Quigley
Eric Swalwell
Joaquin Castro
Denny Heck
Peter Welch
Sean Patrick Maloney
Val Demings
Raja Krishnamoorthi

The Judiciary Committee (Dems):

Jerrold Nadler, Chairman
Zoe Lofgren
Steve Cohen
Hank Johnson
Ted Deutch
Karen Bass
Cedric Richmond
Hakeem Jeffries
David Cicilline
Eric Swalwell
Ted Lieu
Jamie Raskin
Pramila Jayapal
Val Demings
Lou Correa
Mary Gay Scanlon
Sylvia Garcia
Joe Neguse
Lucy McBath
Greg Stanton
Madeleine Dean
Debbie Mucarsel-Powell
Veronica Escobar

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
27. Comey is very smart. His problem wasn't a lack of brains, but
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 06:06 PM
Jul 2019

excessive confidence in his own judgment.

stopdiggin

(11,308 posts)
35. Comey THOUGHT he was protecting the integrity of the system
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 01:48 AM
Jul 2019

with the unexpected result that he SANK the integrity of system .. and a multitude of good people along with it. Let's have a big round of applause for Jim Comey.

UTUSN

(70,695 posts)
11. He also listed the *ONLY* three questions needed to be asked of MUELLER:
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 04:49 PM
Jul 2019

Yesterday, with Ari and then with Brian WILLIAMS, they asked him what three questions he would have for MUELLER next week. He said that, since SHITLER has bruited it about that MULLER found NO collusion, NO obstruction, and completely EXONERATED him, the only questions needed are:

1- Did you find collusion?
2- Did you find obstruction?
3- Did you exonerate him?

They went on to say that the answers are in the report, but having MUELLER say it (Yes. Yes. No.) would nail it down.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212294203






SouthernIrish

(512 posts)
13. I think that Mueller will answer honestly
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 04:54 PM
Jul 2019

Nadler said that the committee was having meetings on what would be asked and by whom. I think that it all comes down to what is asked by them. I look for Mueller to get some vindication for he and his team being called Witch Hunters, crooked, etc.

Firestorm49

(4,035 posts)
16. One can only hope.
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 05:00 PM
Jul 2019

I prefer to be optimistic, but I doubt anything of consequence will be revealed at the hearing.

Rome continues to burn.

NBachers

(17,110 posts)
17. I don't know how much air I can pump back into my deflated Muller hope-balloon. But I'll be watching
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 05:00 PM
Jul 2019

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
28. I sincerely hope
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 06:11 PM
Jul 2019

That Mr. Mueller will decide to step out of the non partisan lawyer corner he has put himself in and answer the questions as an former Marine and American. The country is literally having its foundation chipped away from under it and it needs all the support it can get right now.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
30. I doubt much will come of it. Mueller is proven to be a "good" Republican foot soidier
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 06:53 PM
Jul 2019

Who made sure to minimize any wrongdoing. Refused to look into Trumps children. And sat on his hands for a month AFTER Barr was misrepresenting his report to the American people.

Many Republicans are Never Trumpers, but ALL of them are party first before country, including Mueller.

 

richsonpoordad

(83 posts)
31. i don't think Mueller will save the Union. He had that chance.
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 06:56 PM
Jul 2019

I am just skeptical. He and Barr are too close. How a person of Mueller's supposed integrity could be close friends to someone like Barr is beyond me.

 

Novice Patriot

(22 posts)
33. What does Mueller fear?
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 07:35 PM
Jul 2019

His entire career is evidence of his fairness, conviction to serving the country, his devotion to the law and fair enforcement of those laws. He has shown an abundance of courage. I have heard no other person speak of Mr. Mueller without respect other than Trump himself.
So why does Mueller end a report where he shows beyond a reasonable doubt that multiple crimes were committed with “if he were innocent, then we would have said so” why speak in such coded language? Why be so uncomfortable about testifying to congress when it was once a regular occurrence for his job as FBI director?
Has he been threatened by someone? His family? Is he afraid to expose the beast out of fear of the retaliation to many innocent people?
To many of us he has proven to be Herculean, but something has him backing away from this. What could it be?

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
32. The smart thing to to
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 07:17 PM
Jul 2019

The smart thing to do is get AL FRANKEN to come up with concise, intelligent, well informed, dignified and witty input by meeting in person with as many Dems as possible anywhere any time any place. By any means possible.

Sessions had to recuse himself from the Russian Investigation because franken's questioning made Sessions admit he lied about not meeting with Russians before the election. Where would we be if Sessions had stayed?

Al recently wrote a wonderful eye opening editorial, applying the history of our country and how we ar repeating it today.

Brains and a Nobel Prize winning humorist.

Al as consultant is pie in the sky. I do think his visibility on the national scene will rise over time. Considering the magnitude of his sexual harassment, his fate was comparable to curing dandruff by decapitation.

-90% Jimmy

Marcuse

(7,482 posts)
37. Neal is saying that Barr orally rescinded the DOJ 1973 "Do Not Indict" policy.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:27 PM
Jul 2019

Barr will disagree.

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