The NHS has a staff shortage of 100,000 providers in England.

[pnwmom]

No one here should look to the NHS as a panacea. The NHS faces serious problems in recruitment and retention of healthcare personnel.

https://www.bmj.com/content/363/bmj.k4831

The NHS could be short of a quarter of a million healthcare staff by 2030 unless urgent and sustained action is taken to improve recruitment and retention, a group of leading experts have warned.

In a briefing paper1 the King’s Fund, the Health Foundation, and the Nuffield Trust predicts that NHS staff shortages in England could increase from 100 000 at present to almost 250 000 by 2030 if not dealt with. This could reach 350 000 if the NHS continues to lose staff and cannot attract skilled workers from abroad,

[Dennis Donovan]

1. ...nor should they look at our trainwreck in the US, pre-ACA. n/t

[Hoyt]

2. That likely means more of foreign trained docs will go to England, hurting

our efforts. We’ve been supplementing our provider needs with foreign docs for a long time.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

3. We have a shortage and misallocation of providers in this country, no matter how we pay for it.

[Crunchy Frog]

4. I don't think most people here do look to the NHS as a model for this country.

I think more people look to Canada and the single payer system.

Some people don't understand things enough to understand that they're entirely different systems.

[pnwmom]

6. Canada doesn't have one single payer system. They have different systems

in different provinces, but they all do have universal healthcare.

[madville]

5. It's a common theme and will lead to faster

Advances in automated AI-based healthcare, eventually human healthcare workers will be replaced by technology. Medical workers, drivers, delivery people, etc,etc will be replaced by automation in the coming decades.

[Blue_true]

7. Our provider shortage is likely much higher than 350,000 right now.

So it is not the model. My state of Florida may be an exception. We have over 20 million people here, so even in rural counties there is one or two decent sized cities within reach of all citizens of each county that support a hospital and doctors if all types. But in places like Mississippi, Arkansas, Nebraska, Iowa, to mention a few, decent sized cities are far apart and many areas have can't support a hospital or Doctor practices.

[pnwmom]

11. The US has five times as many people as the UK -- of which England itself is only a part. n/t

[Blue_true]

12. I agree on the population difference. But if you did a per capital evaluation,

you would surely see that we have a much larger problem in that area, except in some states where population patterns or foresight by state politicians eliminates the problem. My state of Florida is one where population patterns remove the problem, we really have some dumbassed republicans here in many cases and they control all but one of the top state offices and all of our lower population counties.

[richsonpoordad]

8. Most services that my family has received over the past year has been by physicians assistants.

There ought to be a movement to establish a healthcare service core for college students to be trained in with tuition forgiveness for 5 years of service to rural and other undersized areas. i find that the nurses and physicians assistants actually know more, and care more about primary care to patients.

If it had not been for a nurse who noticed that my mom had a twisted lip, she would have been sent home four days after triple bypass surgery. The surgeon came in while I was there at her bedside, checked her out and said she could go home the next day. He spent all of 3 minutes with us. The nurse who came in two minutes after him to give our instructions and check her out, notice right away that her mouth seemed funny. I didn't notice it because I thought her look was related to the aftermath of her surgery. The nurse took one look at her as asked, "Did Dr..... say you were going to be released?" "Did he look at you at all?" "no, no. We need to get you checked out." She asked my mom to perform a few simple actions with her hands and arms and asked her to repeat a couple of word. Then she turned to me and said, "I don't believe you mom is going home tomorrow" ?I believe she just had a stroke." I don't need to go any further with this ... my mom eventually went home with minor consequences of her stroke thanks to that nurse. She lived for 11 more years in relatively good health. Thanksfor the indulgence.

[pnwmom]

9. Yes! Good nurses are the essential core of every hospital.

Thank goodness for the one who was caring so well for your mother!

[mainer]

10. Brexit will make things worse

Many of their nurses and doctors were from EU countries.