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ClusterFreak

(3,112 posts)
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:19 AM Aug 2012

Tweety's midnight panel dissecting Ryan's speech....BLOWS!!!!!

O'Donnell, Steele, Fineman and Tweety...all sitting there absolutely GUSHING about how much of a wonderful liar Ryan is! You expect Steele to gush, but the rest of them...they're all saying he was so effective and got his message through to swing voters yada yada....that all swing voters will hear is his talk abouit his mom and grandmother and won't even know they're being lied to. And just basically what a formidable, awesome orator and politician he is....because he is such a great liar.

Fuck that! A liar is a liar is a liar.

Gotta be some serious-ass Stockholm Syndrome shit goin' down outside the Tampa Bay Times Forum...two or three days living and breathing Repuke bullshit will rot your fucking mind I guess.

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Tweety's midnight panel dissecting Ryan's speech....BLOWS!!!!! (Original Post) ClusterFreak Aug 2012 OP
What the hell is going on? sadbear Aug 2012 #1
this is what it's become. who can lie the best. spanone Aug 2012 #2
And it's creepy because they ADMIT HE IS LYING! tjdee Aug 2012 #3
They are NOT praising him cilla4progress Aug 2012 #14
Mmm....I see that....but shouldn't they flat out refuse to entertain anything other than the lies? tjdee Aug 2012 #18
You are so right: this is "how things work." cilla4progress Aug 2012 #21
I had to turn it off...weak stomach... tokenlib Aug 2012 #4
I believe Ryan is ann--- Aug 2012 #5
No worries. Matthews is generally an emotional guy, lighting his hair on fire is rather normal. Firebrand Gary Aug 2012 #6
Lawrence was being honest. Ryan is going to be an issue. GusFring Aug 2012 #7
If journalists would do their fucking jobs, he wouldn't be an issue. sadbear Aug 2012 #10
I completely agree. Very dangerous. Nt yeswecanandwedid Aug 2012 #12
We knew this was going to be cilla4progress Aug 2012 #15
Rachel not there? dkf Aug 2012 #8
I'm watching now, and LO's comments ecstatic Aug 2012 #9
He has very good instincts and doesn't pander! cilla4progress Aug 2012 #16
Lawerence was... yeswecanandwedid Aug 2012 #11
Definitely - style over substance. cilla4progress Aug 2012 #20
finally david corn tells the truth about condi spanone Aug 2012 #13
Exactly. All this gushing on her speech Lifelong Protester Aug 2012 #17
GOOD! nt Cha Aug 2012 #23
We aint seen nothin yet when it comes to lies wait till willard hit the stage tomorrow iloveObama12 Aug 2012 #19
The Panel sounds so Fucking Cha Aug 2012 #22

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
1. What the hell is going on?
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:21 AM
Aug 2012

Lawrence, WTF? You don't have any problem calling Romney the liar he is. Why is Paul Ryan getting the kid gloves?

tjdee

(18,048 posts)
3. And it's creepy because they ADMIT HE IS LYING!
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:22 AM
Aug 2012

I have never seen anything like this. They are praising him while admitting that he is lying!

What the hell is going on in this country???

cilla4progress

(24,754 posts)
14. They are NOT praising him
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:36 AM
Aug 2012

they are saying he hit a homer with undecided low information voters (as well as base) watching his speech tonight. Basically, Ryan is one of those pathological "swami"-type liars. They are merely acknowledging his success with this tactic.

The Obama team better come out swinging in the morning!

tjdee

(18,048 posts)
18. Mmm....I see that....but shouldn't they flat out refuse to entertain anything other than the lies?
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:40 AM
Aug 2012

Who cares if he's a great liar if he's lying? Shouldn't they be alarmed for the American people, being subjected to this kind of swami? Shouldn't his lying be the subject?

I know how things work but geez.

 

ann---

(1,933 posts)
5. I believe Ryan is
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:25 AM
Aug 2012

worse than Romney. My gut tells me so - I can't stand to even watch or listen to him. Or to the panels that "gush" over this idiot.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
6. No worries. Matthews is generally an emotional guy, lighting his hair on fire is rather normal.
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:26 AM
Aug 2012

MSNBC will right the ship by Friday evening when Rev Al, Ed and Rachel return to their regular show. The Republican party will probably take hell fire for the out right lies this convention is based on.

cilla4progress

(24,754 posts)
15. We knew this was going to be
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:38 AM
Aug 2012

the most energized speech of the convention.

I'm confident Obama and Biden can take this guy out. It will require smarts and strategy, and I believe they are capable of it.

ecstatic

(32,718 posts)
9. I'm watching now, and LO's comments
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:27 AM
Aug 2012

have me a little worried. Actually, a lot worried, because I trust his opinion the most out of everyone on MSNBC.

yeswecanandwedid

(501 posts)
11. Lawerence was...
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:27 AM
Aug 2012

...dead on. Most of us know who were voting for already. Hes trying to capture the undecided voters, the ones who don't follow this stuff like we do. They don't check facts, they don't care, it's sad but true.

cilla4progress

(24,754 posts)
20. Definitely - style over substance.
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:41 AM
Aug 2012

Who they (the voters) want to be associated with..which team they want to be on. I daresay that's where Obama gets some of his support.

The Dems are going to have to bring on one of their inspiring, uplifting conventions - remember 2008? It's going to be harder this year for all the reasons we already know -- Ryan has put youth and energy on the table, for one. But I believe in Obama and his team and I think we can give them a run for their money!

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
17. Exactly. All this gushing on her speech
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:39 AM
Aug 2012

give me a break. She's a war criminal. David Corn would not let that fact go.

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