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fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 12:18 AM Jul 2019

Donald Trump will lose the 2020 election

Donald Trump will lose the 2020 election

Pollsters famously got the 2016 presidential election wrong. HuffPost, for example, listed Hillary Clinton’s chances of winning at 99 percent right up until the race was called for Donald Trump.

Data experts have tried to learn from that epic fail -- and one has proven especially successful, so far. Rachel Bitecofer, the assistant director of the Wason Center for Public Policy at Virginia’s Christopher Newport University, created a unique prediction model that almost perfectly foretold the results of the 2018 midterm election. (The model concluded the Democrats would pick up 42 House seats; the Dems gained 40 seats.)

Now Bitecofer says that same model, which she says “departs significantly” from well-known data site FiveThirtyEight’s approach, makes clear that Donald Trump will not win reelection next year.


So what do you all think. I find myself grasping at any positive news.

https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2019/07/donald-trump-will-lose-the-2020-election-concludes-unique-prediction-model-that-nailed-2018-midterm-results.html?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=theoregonian_sf&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2OFHTJGYo_5A26BoaDWC2ca9N61s2lCf_oZEMzuPvk6xZIa06TQ1EOurs
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Donald Trump will lose the 2020 election (Original Post) fleabiscuit Jul 2019 OP
It's good news. I'll take it. blue neen Jul 2019 #1
You and me both friend. fleabiscuit Jul 2019 #3
I like the way Ms. Bitecofer thinks! blue neen Jul 2019 #5
You and me both! fleabiscuit Jul 2019 #8
Taking it with a grain of salt until the last state is called on election night. Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #2
Yup. Everyday I see a positive path for the next election but still hold my breath. fleabiscuit Jul 2019 #4
I'll grasp at that straw of hope. yonder Jul 2019 #6
"Whoever wins the Democratic nomination -- other than possibly Bernie, that is -- will defeat Trump" TeamPooka Jul 2019 #7
Shouldn't be an issue. The betting markets have him currently in 5th place. fleabiscuit Jul 2019 #9
RT and Sputnik went all in for Sanders (and Stein) before; I expect a similar effort of some kind Maru Kitteh Jul 2019 #19
I don't care what magic tea leaves she's reading-- the election is still too far away... TreasonousBastard Jul 2019 #10
And If they are allowed to vote. n/t MarcA Jul 2019 #13
And if their vote is counted accurately coeur_de_lion Jul 2019 #21
Exactly. As they say, a poll is just a snapshot of one time. Too many variables to predict now. Midnight Writer Jul 2019 #16
This final sentence in the article rings true to me. Kablooie Jul 2019 #11
You and me both Kablooie. I'm one of the terrified electorate. fleabiscuit Jul 2019 #14
all I can do is hope larwdem Jul 2019 #12
Hillary wins in 2016 if the perception wasn't Hillary in a Landslide aeromanKC Jul 2019 #15
I'm going to go shut off the gas stove now. JohnnyRingo Jul 2019 #17
LOL. All electric house here, but I guess I could fire up the cars in the garage. nt fleabiscuit Jul 2019 #18
If you have a Prius, it could take a month or two. JohnnyRingo Jul 2019 #20
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
2. Taking it with a grain of salt until the last state is called on election night.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 12:26 AM
Jul 2019

I will take nothing for granted anymore.

Maru Kitteh

(28,343 posts)
19. RT and Sputnik went all in for Sanders (and Stein) before; I expect a similar effort of some kind
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:14 AM
Jul 2019

whether they back Sanders or some other candidate against whoever becomes the Democratic nominee apparent.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
10. I don't care what magic tea leaves she's reading-- the election is still too far away...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 12:50 AM
Jul 2019

and anything can happen.

Nonetheless, I firmly believe that the "silent majority" out there now sees just what a useless asshole he is and will vote him out. If they vote, that is.

Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
11. This final sentence in the article rings true to me.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 01:07 AM
Jul 2019
The complacent electorate of 2016, who were convinced Trump would never be president,” she writes, “has been replaced with the terrified electorate of 2020, who are convinced he’s the Terminator and can’t be stopped. Under my model, that distinction is not only important, it is everything.

aeromanKC

(3,328 posts)
15. Hillary wins in 2016 if the perception wasn't Hillary in a Landslide
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 01:46 AM
Jul 2019

Too many people either stayed home, didn't GOTV as hard as they would have or voted for Jill Stein.

This will not happen again!! (See 2018)

JohnnyRingo

(18,653 posts)
20. If you have a Prius, it could take a month or two.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:29 AM
Jul 2019

A Prius actually emits fewer pollutants at idle than a 1964 Mustang with the engine off. When they measure cars they put them in airtight enclosures and record emissions from the entire car. True fact.

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