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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy Repubican husband, who voted for Obama before, helped me understand.
In a discussion yesterday, our middle daughter asked my husband, who I can best describe as a liberal Republican, "Who are YOU voting for?" He declined to answer and we picked up the conversation a little later. I knew he was leaning toward Obama again, but also knew he was conflicted. So, I asked, "What do you think about the two plans for Medicare and Social Security?" He answered that he wants those programs to remain intact because they are not retirement programs, but insurance against poverty in old age. He added that Wall Street wants its hands on that money, but that you never know how volatile the market will be, and you can't trust Wall Street anymore.
I asked another question: "What do you think about unemployment?" He answered that we need more and better paying jobs here. This gave me an opportunity to discuss tariffs, and then to ask him why he thought company owners were against them, and he answered that they can make much more of a profit.
Finally, I asked him what his views were on the military (he is a former army airborne ranger). He said he wants a strong military, but that we spend way too much money for things we don't need, to line the pockets of defense contractors.
I said, "I think the reason you're conflicted is that you've always identified yourself as a republican, but the republican party has morphed so much that it no longer represents YOU." He heartily agreed.
So, later on we talked with our daughter again, and he said to her, "In the end, I have to vote for the smartest guy in the room, and that's President Obama. He has done so many good things, and his heart is in the right place."
And so, even though it pains my sweet husband of 31 years to see the republicans offer no option for his republican soul, the Commonwealth of Virginia has five out of five members of our family voting for Obama this November
Carolina
(6,960 posts)avebury
(10,952 posts)Diclotican
(5,095 posts)phylny
I think your husband of 30 year, have a decency not known to what is "mainstream" Republicans this days.. For what I know, many old timers of the republican is conflicted by what they have experienced the last decade from the republicans in power - and I think many do as your husband - vote for the best, and smartest man in the room, and current, it is Obama, not Romney..
Diclotican
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)And the Democratic Party ran to him.
What happens the the Democrats like me who got jilted by my party?
Some of us run to other countries.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)You were "spot on" on all your comments and I'm glad to see that we have 1 more on our side. The GOP has changed big time from what they were a 10-20 years ago. It's all about me, me, me, and screw the middle class. They have no class, are not humanitarians, and support lies and fear mongering. I am glad to see that there are still people out there that can use common sense to figure out what these clowns are all about. Thanks for posting.
life long demo
(1,113 posts)We have been a democratic family all our lives, Mother, Father, 3 sisters, 2 brothers and me. Parents are gone now. I have known for a few years that my older brother who married into a very very comfortable(money) family has changed from dem to repug, almost a tea partier, ugh. I just found out my younger brother has become a republican, My jaw dropped when I found out. He's a faux noise watcher now. But my 3 sisters and I are still Democratic. BUT, my oldest sister who voted for Pres. Obama in 2008 said she can not vote for him now because of the abortion thingy, she has become very, very religious as she gets older, but she also said she couldn't in good conscience vote for the repug. We are all older, 4 of the 6 are already retired, I'm the youngest of those 4 at age 69. I know this is long, but I am distressed about this.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)(I hope)
The republican party has become scary and extreme.
Our youngest, who is 20, will cast her first presidential vote this year
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)it was iraq war that turned him. he voted kerry and knew in his heart it was stolen. that did the turn for him on repug. another 4 yrs and he was firmly disgusted with repugs. now he mocks them. lol
but, i hear what you say cause the repug party he liked meant something to him. i never held to a party per se. just always ended voting dem. the party was part of his identity. it gets easier.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Active in the Republican Party not because the Party represents her values, but because her social life revolves around the Party.
She confided in me that she voted for Obama in 2008.
skeewee08
(1,983 posts)hfojvt
(37,573 posts)because there may be a Senate race, and what about the House, and then state legislators, and maybe even (ahem, cough, cough) the County Treasurer (happens to be the office I am running for). Those Democrats could use his vote too.
I mean, if he does not like the Ryan budget, then why vote for Republicans for Congress who will (or have) voted for the Ryan budget?
Samantha
(9,314 posts)Soon after the banking crisis erupted, I asked the question how much of the Social Security Trust Fund would have been lost had Bush* been able to privatize the program. Paul Begala answered that question the next day. Forty percent. Your husband is exactly correct. SS is an insurance policy against poverty, not an investment vehicle. There are many people today who would not be surviving in this rough economy had this not been in place.
I thank your husband for deciding to support keeping this program in place and voting for the smartest guy in the room.
Sam
samsingh
(17,599 posts)kag
(4,079 posts)I have a hard time talking to Republicans because I get so angry. (My dad makes me crazy!) I admire people who can discuss things with them calmly, and make them look at some hard truths about their party.
I know the Dems aren't perfect (except the ones on DU, of course , but I am constantly amazed at how many people vote Republican, even when--as is usually the case--it is against their own best interest.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)He should tell his friends that it isn't Reagan's republican party anymore. Believe me, those words will wound his (still) Republican friends like no other...
kooljerk666
(776 posts)Dad, at 85 still is GOP & don't bother with the facts................
Aviation Pro
(12,179 posts)...from me. Always leading from the front those Rangers.
KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)phylny
(8,383 posts)He's also the father of our three daughters, so that crap about "only real men father sons" made me laugh.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)The entire republican national convention theme is built around taking one of the presidents statements out of context.
Intellectually bankrupt.
I understand that they're the opposition party, but shouldn't they at least be opposed to something that actually happened.
...and they're going to try and make an issue out of the deficit. Where the hell were they between 2001 and 2009?
I know, I know - running up the deficit.
They've got nothing. Rats, ships... Like that.
NBachers
(17,130 posts)ecstatic
(32,720 posts)that I don't often find in "true" republicans. Kudos.
SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)that is important to us; keeping their Mitts off of Servicemembers in Iraq and possibly on into Iran. I need Obama to stay in because I feel that is the only way we'll see everyone come home finally.
phylny
(8,383 posts)to send service men and women only when absolutely necessary (and Iraq wasn't necessary!)
virgdem
(2,126 posts)some sane moderate Republicans out there that can be reasoned with. I commend your husband for being able to understand what is really important and not be swayed by the insanity that is today's Republican Party. Your husband didn't leave the Republican party, the party left him with no option than to vote for the sane Democrats.
Cha
(297,441 posts)Good Sound Logic!
MFM008
(19,818 posts)you give me hope for my old state.
rizlaplus
(159 posts)There ARE thinking Republicans out there and they're thinking hard - believe me.