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Tactical Peek

(1,210 posts)
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 10:17 PM Jul 2019

Trump spoke in front of a fake presidential seal that included a Russian symbol.



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Trump spoke in front of a fake presidential seal that included a Russian symbol. How it got there is a mystery.





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What the actual fuck?!

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Trump spoke in front of a fake presidential seal that included a Russian symbol. (Original Post) Tactical Peek Jul 2019 OP
The golf clubs are the best part. TwilightZone Jul 2019 #1
Are they really olive branches in the other talons or is it something else? TheBlackAdder Jul 2019 #27
Money. 😂 nolabear Jul 2019 #46
Oh, man! Well done to whomever pulled that off! Even if it's Vlad's team to get Trump's next payment TheBlackAdder Jul 2019 #49
The eagle has two heads. BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #2
The two-headed eagle is a traditional symbol of the Russian empire. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #5
I tried to read the Wa Po article but I used up my freebies BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #9
So here's more: The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #10
Wow, there are golf clubs?!? BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #14
Unbelievable! Anon-C Jul 2019 #28
It has a specific meaning in heraldry, "king-emperor" Recursion Jul 2019 #33
Thanks! BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #37
he probably put it there himself. Takket Jul 2019 #3
Looks like somebody trolled him. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #4
I hope that's true. Iliyah Jul 2019 #7
OMG, genius! klook Jul 2019 #8
IDK. The Pepes have a history of taking jokes and running with them (nt) Recursion Jul 2019 #34
that's hilarious. mopinko Jul 2019 #6
A slightly better picture: The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #11
It may be written in Cyrillic... Raastan Jul 2019 #12
45 ES UN PUTCHO OilemFirchen Jul 2019 #16
What's "putcho"? Couldn't find a definition, is it a word? The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #17
Not a Spanish speaker, but Google Translate sez it's "slut". (n/t) OilemFirchen Jul 2019 #19
"Puta" is the word I know, so maybe that's a variation. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author pangaia Jul 2019 #29
It looks like it says "45 es un titere". If so, that is Spanish for Tanuki Jul 2019 #22
By jove, I think you're right! OilemFirchen Jul 2019 #25
I think that's it! The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #26
It's "titere"--puppet. nolabear Jul 2019 #47
Here's a better image..... KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2019 #30
i think reply #22 could be it. mopinko Jul 2019 #36
The eagle's right talon is clutching a sheaf of money jmowreader Jul 2019 #13
A two headed creature with cash and golf clubs...perfect representation BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #15
This cannot happen as a prank. Johnny2X2X Jul 2019 #18
But that's not true in this case. Trump is surrounded by incompetent people The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #23
It may be their job, but Retrograde Jul 2019 #24
That was in normal times. Apparently he doesn't even have an advance team anymore Recursion Jul 2019 #35
This cannot happen to a halfway competent president, you mean... Blue_Tires Jul 2019 #43
Foreshadowing.... Everyone's sitting back while he gives the keys ecstatic Jul 2019 #20
I thought Paul Krassner was dead. Midnight Writer Jul 2019 #31
Totally wtf? yuiyoshida Jul 2019 #32
So where is chuck todd now re: optics? onetexan Jul 2019 #38
LOL...the golf clubs... anarch Jul 2019 #39
Heh! demmiblue Jul 2019 #40
Great comments: Names removed lindysalsagal Jul 2019 #41
Brilliant! Major Nikon Jul 2019 #42
Just your daily reminder that in Russia, the U.S. is their new #1 "reality show" Blue_Tires Jul 2019 #44
I'm not gonna lie -- I needed this... Blue_Tires Jul 2019 #45
Resistance is everywhere! nolabear Jul 2019 #48
Make the Eagle's talons really small. Talitha Jul 2019 #50
The only thing that could make this any better would be to leave out the "P" in "President" lapucelle Jul 2019 #51
Here's a reasonable mock-up of it Brother Buzz Jul 2019 #52
That's even better...you can see the hammers and sickles. lapucelle Jul 2019 #53

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
2. The eagle has two heads.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 10:22 PM
Jul 2019

Maybe it is on purpose since the Racist Rapist is two faced or maybe due to his bipolar behavior.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
5. The two-headed eagle is a traditional symbol of the Russian empire.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 10:24 PM
Jul 2019

I think somebody got into the AV system and punked him with the reference to Russia (and the golf clubs).

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
9. I tried to read the Wa Po article but I used up my freebies
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 10:29 PM
Jul 2019

for the month and my email subscription didn't have it listed in their articles. It took me four tries to get through the first paragraph before it was blacked out.

Thanks for clearing that up since it was driving me crazy (ier).

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
10. So here's more:
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 10:30 PM
Jul 2019
The eagle has two heads instead of one — a symbol historically tied to empire and dominance. It closely resembles the bird on the Russian coat of arms, and also appears on the flags of Serbia, Albania and Montenegro. Its left talons, rather than clasping 13 arrows, appear to clutch a set of golf clubs.

On the official presidential seal, the eagle’s mouth famously holds a banner with the U.S. motto “E pluribus unum.” It was not clear from photos and video if the words on the parody eagle’s banner were altered as well.

The origins of the knockoff are murky. A projection of the true presidential seal was centered behind Trump’s name as he walked onstage. The true seal was also on the lectern where the president spoke for 80 minutes.

A White House spokesperson told The Washington Post they had not seen the seal before it appeared on screen, and referred questions about the incident to Turning Point.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/07/25/how-did-trump-end-up-front-presidential-seal-doctored-include-russian-symbol/?utm_term=.fc8407b1ed78

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
33. It has a specific meaning in heraldry, "king-emperor"
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 01:37 AM
Jul 2019

Pretty much limited to the Tsar of Russia and the Emperor of Austria-Hungary, the two people who were both emperors and in their own right kings of subsidiary kingdoms.

klook

(12,156 posts)
8. OMG, genius!
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 10:28 PM
Jul 2019

Whoever did that is my hero. Wow. Nicely done. The spirit of the dear, recently departed Paul Krassner lives on.

mopinko

(70,120 posts)
6. that's hilarious.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 10:27 PM
Jul 2019

i wish there was a better pic. i think there may be some more jokes in there. the left claw appears to be holding cash.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
11. A slightly better picture:
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 10:32 PM
Jul 2019


Still can't tell what's written on the banner (except it's not "E Pluribus Unum&quot .

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
17. What's "putcho"? Couldn't find a definition, is it a word?
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 10:53 PM
Jul 2019

"Pendejo" would work but it doesn't fit. It does look like it says "45 es un... something."

Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #16)

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
13. The eagle's right talon is clutching a sheaf of money
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 10:41 PM
Jul 2019

And let me guess: The motto has been changed from "E Pluribus Unum" to either "God Bless America" or "All Your Base Are Belong To Us."

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
15. A two headed creature with cash and golf clubs...perfect representation
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 10:45 PM
Jul 2019

for our country under this POTUS. We are officially the US of Ass.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
18. This cannot happen as a prank.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 10:54 PM
Jul 2019

There are people around any President whose job it is to analyze every detail. No freaking way someone pranked them. They let it get through to create doubt. Trump and his handlers love the Russia connection and use it.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
23. But that's not true in this case. Trump is surrounded by incompetent people
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:01 PM
Jul 2019

who regularly make dumb mistakes in their publications, tweets, emails and other communications. It wouldn't be at all surprising if a prank got past the numbskulls who are supposed to manage these things. From the WaPo article:

Richard Painter, who served as the chief White House ethics lawyer for President George W. Bush from 2005 to 2007, said the president’s staff should typically have advanced knowledge and command over images and video displayed at events where the president appears.

He called the incident “careless.”

“You should have control over what the private group is doing, what they’re putting on the screen and anything else,” said Painter, now a law professor at the University of Minnesota. “To let someone project something on the screen that isn’t controlled by the White House is pretty stupid.”

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
24. It may be their job, but
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:08 PM
Jul 2019

I don't think there are that many people left in Trump's orbit who are actually competent at their jobs. Or they just no longer give a damn,

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
35. That was in normal times. Apparently he doesn't even have an advance team anymore
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 01:45 AM
Jul 2019

(I mean, obviously he has a security advance, but in terms of the event management apparently they've just been going in blind for like a year now.)

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
43. This cannot happen to a halfway competent president, you mean...
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 10:02 AM
Jul 2019

Trump's staffers are hired for their slavish loyalty and not their skills or talents...

ecstatic

(32,707 posts)
20. Foreshadowing.... Everyone's sitting back while he gives the keys
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 10:56 PM
Jul 2019

to Putin. The only thing keeping me halfway sane right now are the words of an astrologer.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
39. LOL...the golf clubs...
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 05:27 AM
Jul 2019

and the fistful of money in the other talons...hilarious, and truly appropriate. This version seems much more appropriate for dipshit than the actual one, which should really never be associated with this buffoon.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
41. Great comments: Names removed
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 07:36 AM
Jul 2019

Surely there was a hidden camera beneath the seal that allowed Putin to keep his eye on his fat boy plant.

The only thing TRUMP & the TRUTH have in common are five letters.

Trump’s golfing cost taxpayers more than $102 million in travel and security expenses. This comes despite the fact that Trump frequently censured Barack Obama for his love of the sport — he tweeted at least 27 times that Obama played golf too much.
Emblematic of America’s two-faced, unprincipled president.

The idiots probably thought it was a compliment. Seriously.

"I just think Putin would probably approve.” Not only Putin but the traitorous organization called Turning Point - "Turns towards Russia."

A "throw up" ... that's what we're experiencing every day of this regime; as in "vomit." But don't tell the dotard about the doctored seal featuring golf clubs and a two-headed eagle. He'll insist that it be made the official seal.
"...likely to embarrass" ... you kidding? A person has to have at least a shred of self-awareness and humility to feel embarrassment. Americans are embarrassed by this regime daily but the Putin puppet will never be.

Who knew that diaper boy Charlie Kirk would have a rebel in the ranks of such a great organization as Toilet Paper USA? Surely the group that brought us such great thinkers as Candace Owens would be a more tightly run ship.
No way this was an "accident". You don't google "Presidential seal" and come up with this image. It was on purpose and it's hysterical.
The Fanta Menace probably didn't even notice.

Unprofessional is what this regime does. What haven't they screwed up?

Kudos to the AV folks. Lol. I like blaming the min wage workers.

Perfectly appropriate symbol, honest one.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
45. I'm not gonna lie -- I needed this...
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 10:10 AM
Jul 2019

Oh Jesus H. Christ, I needed this.

Mueller, the hearings, the criticisms, the insults, and the damning news stories just roll off Trump's back; but being made an utter assclown on video at his own fucking public event is hitting Donnie where it hurts the most.

Talitha

(6,593 posts)
50. Make the Eagle's talons really small.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 02:16 PM
Jul 2019

Put a cell phone in the left beak.
Put a KFC chicken wing in the right beak.
Add a diaper.

lapucelle

(18,268 posts)
51. The only thing that could make this any better would be to leave out the "P" in "President"
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 02:42 PM
Jul 2019
The eagle in the altered image had two heads, a symbol featured on the national emblem of Russia, the flags of several other countries and the logos for two Trump golf resorts in Scotland. The symbol is often associated with power and empire.

The doctored seal appeared to be the same as one used to sell anti-Trump merchandise in an online store, The Washington Post reported, based on a reader tip. (Requests for comment sent to the store’s social media accounts were not immediately answered.)

In that seal, the eagle clutches golf clubs and what appears to be a wad of money in its talons. The banner above its head reads “45 Es un Títere,” Spanish for “45 Is a Puppet.” And a shield across the eagle’s chest features five instances of the hammer and sickle, a Communist symbol associated with the Russian Revolution.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/25/us/politics/presidential-seal-trump.html?login=email&auth=login-email

lapucelle

(18,268 posts)
53. That's even better...you can see the hammers and sickles.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 02:54 PM
Jul 2019

Too bad Trump doesn't have advance staff who can tell the difference between Latin and Spanish.

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