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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 08:15 AM Aug 2012

"Paul Ryan fails--the truth"

WOW. Jonathan Bernstein whales on Ryan big-time.

by strobusguy

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In "The Plum Line" blog at the Washington Post, Jonathan Bernstein has just made a most righteous and entirely justified rant. Just go read it. But I'll post a couple choice excerpts under the croissant l'orange....

The title of the piece is "Paul Ryan fails--the truth." How's that?

It was, by any reasonable standards, a staggering, staggering lie. Here’s Paul Ryan about Barack Obama:

He created a bipartisan debt commission. They came back with an urgent report. He thanked them, sent them on their way, and then did exactly nothing.

“They.” “Them.” “Them.” Those words are lies. Because Paul Ryan was on that commission. “Came back with an urgent report.” That is a lie. The commission never made any recommendations for Barack Obama to support or oppose. Why not? Because the commission voted down its own recommendations. Why? Because Paul Ryan, a member of the commission, voted it down and successfully convinced the other House Republicans on the commission to vote it down.

And then...

There’s also, as many were pointing out, the plain fact that until January 2009 Paul Ryan faithfully supported all the tax cuts and spending increases which created the deficit problem he’s been so concerned about since January 2009.

And then a swift kick to the hind-quarters:

...the proper response to a speech like this isn’t to carefully analyze the logic, or to find instances of hypocracy; it’s to call the speaker out for telling flat-out lies to the American people.

Cut it, paste it, Facebook it, pass it on....

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/30/1125739/-WOW-Jonathan-Bernstein-wails-on-Ryan-big-time


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"Paul Ryan fails--the truth" (Original Post) ProSense Aug 2012 OP
K&R, with one caveat appal_jack Aug 2012 #1
k&r... spanone Aug 2012 #2
kick for the afternoon crowd. n/t appal_jack Aug 2012 #3
 

appal_jack

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1. K&R, with one caveat
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 09:12 AM
Aug 2012

Last edited Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:36 PM - Edit history (1)

No doubt about it, Ryan is a heinous liar, but honestly, wtf did Obama expect to happen with that Commission? On the 'shred-the-safety-net side,' he appointed rabid ideologues like Paul Ryan & Alan Simpson.

Meanwhile on the 'save-the-safety-net side'... Oh wait, that side was barely represented, if at all on that Commission.

Meanwhile on the 'Democratic' side, Obama appoints weaselly-little corporatists like Erskine Bowles. Erskine-goddamn-Bowles stands for no one except Morgan Stanley and Erskine Bowles (and he does the latter badly, as he has been unable to get elected to any office lately; plus his tenure at the helm of the UNC system was utterly without distinction).

The 'Debt Commission' should have contained at least a plurality of pro-Social Security, pro-Safety Net, pro-progressive taxation voices among the Democrats (I know it would be too much to ask to find even one Republican to fit that description). Instead, the 'Debt Commission' was stacked against us from the start. It was bad policy from the outset, so it should be no surprise that the result is some bad politics.

-app

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