Chis Hayes Tweet; the nightmare scenario

[Dennis Donovan]

Link to tweet

Chris Hayes ✔ @chrislhayes

The nightmare scenario, one which is not, to my mind, that remote, is that 2020 is very close and amidst recount/contestation of certain state tallies, evidence emerges of security breaches into the state voting systems, throwing the entire result into a legitimacy black hole.

6:32 PM - Jul 25, 2019

"2020 is very close and amidst recount/contestation of certain state tallies, evidence emerges of security breaches into the state voting systems, throwing the entire result into a legitimacy black hole."

This is happening right here on DU, before a single 2020 vote is cast.

[gratuitous]

1. Mueller said as much to Schiff yesterday

But all the media could analyze were the optics.

[Dennis Donovan]

3. Optics equals ratings and profit, not patriotism or civics.

I'm sure the framers hoped the First Amendment's "Free Press" stipulation would always be utilized as a true "fifth estate watchdog" of government. But then, news as a profit-arm of media corporations took hold.

I miss Murrow and Cronkite. They seemed to get it.

[Me.]

9. He Probably Wouldn't Know That

too busy criticizing the Dems and their failure of a hearing

[stillcool]

2. 2020 election is very close....says who?

that is the big lie, that makes all the other lies possible. Pay the pollsters, keep the media on message....create the perception and you create the reality.

[Dennis Donovan]

4. There's already talk on DU that vote counts shouldn't be trusted

...using 2016 as proof.

[rzemanfl]

6. What about Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004? n/t

[Dennis Donovan]

7. I'm thinking more about claims of cyberflipping of votes by foreign adversaries

...than about dimpled chads. The claims of cyberflipping alone, without proof, could help a losing candidate refute that they actually lost.

...like Trump!

[rzemanfl]

8. My fear is Putin may actually flip some votes TO Dems and leave

an obvious trail. We get chaos followed by a 5-4 Supreme Court "election."

[stillcool]

11. there's so much proof...

in our recent history it's ridiculous. If every person who plans to vote, called or wrote the Secretary of State's office in their state, and asked what they were doing to secure their election, and their vote, it might(?) provoke some action. There needs to be a big push to organize, compile information about the fixes needed, and how to implement them. There aren't that many states that still use paperless computerized voting, and as long as there is paper, a vote can be counted. We could demand a random audit of a percentage of the vote in every state. It seems so effing easy, doesn't it?

[madinmaryland]

5. Never fear, AG Barr is here. He will remedy all the issues...

in tRump’s favor.

🤬

[shanti]

10. Black box voting

DU'ers have been talking about this extensively since 2001, with nothing having been done to fix it. Now, when we are in a crisis state, they decide they need to take a look at it. A kid can hack our voting systems with ease and this is ignored? Infuriating!

[stillcool]

12. the "Help America Vote Act"...

isn't it a perfect example of what happens when the GOP decides to fix something?

[5starlib]

13. As long as Pelosi remains Speaker, I'll be fine...

The House counts the Electoral College. They House may not necessarily certify a flawed result, although hell would break loose and it would cause a Constitutional crisis.