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Do you think Trump actually wants brown skinned people killed? (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Aug 2019 OP
I think his primary goal is to stoke his base. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #1
that is probably close rampartc Aug 2019 #3
My thought too. cwydro Aug 2019 #7
He's a narcissistic sociopath, well defined how they feel. No empathy at all. They can not feel. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2019 #13
You beat me to it. EXACTLY what I believe to be true. nt Atticus Aug 2019 #17
I think this is exactly right Docreed2003 Aug 2019 #29
Yes yes & yup. Boxerfan Aug 2019 #2
Yep it excites his f---g racist base. Did you see doc03 Aug 2019 #4
He just doesn't value lives mainstreetonce Aug 2019 #5
I think he "really doesn't care"... BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #6
He likes little kids in cages..if they are brown skinned HipChick Aug 2019 #8
It's to stoke the base. But collateral damage is fine with him. bitterross Aug 2019 #9
He would if he could uponit7771 Aug 2019 #10
Yes sinkingfeeling Aug 2019 #11
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh muntrv Aug 2019 #12
It may feel uncomfortable for him now, but wait until it becomes the new normal. Baitball Blogger Aug 2019 #14
Option 3: H2O Man Aug 2019 #15
he doesnt think. he cant think. mopinko Aug 2019 #16
to the extent it is a demonstration of his power, yes EveHammond13 Aug 2019 #18
I think both TlalocW Aug 2019 #19
No, he just doesn't care Azathoth Aug 2019 #20
He has never suffered the consequences of his behavior malaise Aug 2019 #21
His day of reckoning is coming Generic Brad Aug 2019 #24
I agree with you 100% malaise Aug 2019 #26
would you settle for him choking on a cold hamberder with no ketchup? Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2019 #39
It will only come when it severly affects him or his family. riversedge Aug 2019 #42
ANYTHING that he thinks will get him votes from anywhere. world wide wally Aug 2019 #22
Everything Trump does is with purpose of self-gratification, of PA Democrat Aug 2019 #23
IMO white supremicists/nationalists just want non- whited NOT HERE bobbieinok Aug 2019 #25
It wouldn't bother him in the least. dchill Aug 2019 #27
I dont think he cares. He is non empathetic on an extreme level Demovictory9 Aug 2019 #28
YES Skittles Aug 2019 #30
1. Absolutely because 2. he doesn't give a damn about brown people as human beings. Eugene Aug 2019 #31
Yes. CentralMass Aug 2019 #32
I think he's an opportunist and doesn't really care or think about the impact of his words peggysue2 Aug 2019 #33
I doubt he is capable of caring. KentuckyWoman Aug 2019 #34
Yes. He like the power. Johnny2X2X Aug 2019 #35
Yes, yes, yes. He doesn't give a shit. RainCaster Aug 2019 #36
Yes. I hope karma gets him first. nt ecstatic Aug 2019 #37
Well look at the shitheads he surrounds himself with - Gorka, Bannon, Miller, Huckabee... Initech Aug 2019 #38
Yes.. he wants to instill fear nini Aug 2019 #40
Strangely worded question. BlueWI Aug 2019 #41
I think he is indifferent about it... kentuck Aug 2019 #43
Is his mind really a stinking garbage dump, or does he just pretend so for the votes? struggle4progress Aug 2019 #44
He wants his base to adore him Bettie Aug 2019 #45
I think it's more that he's stoking his base Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2019 #46
He wants America's cities in flames crazytown Aug 2019 #47
He hasn't proven he doesn't! TheBlackAdder Aug 2019 #48

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
1. I think his primary goal is to stoke his base.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 08:44 PM
Aug 2019

But I don't think he cares a bit if a few people get shot along the way.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
13. He's a narcissistic sociopath, well defined how they feel. No empathy at all. They can not feel. n/t
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 08:51 PM
Aug 2019

Docreed2003

(16,861 posts)
29. I think this is exactly right
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 09:26 PM
Aug 2019

Trump is getting off on the power he holds over his base. I don't think he cares if people die, particularly brown people. This is the guy who kept Hitlers speeches at his bedside table. This is like a dream for him

BigmanPigman

(51,607 posts)
6. I think he "really doesn't care"...
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 08:46 PM
Aug 2019

just like his dear robot wifey. They do not care who is harmed or killed since they are inhuman, self absorbed, greedy sociopaths. Typical sociopathic behavior.

https://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html
Traits of a socipath...

Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
Shallow Emotions
Glibness and Superficial Charm
Manipulative and Conning
Grandiose Sense of Self
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Pathological Lying
Need for Stimulation

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
8. He likes little kids in cages..if they are brown skinned
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 08:48 PM
Aug 2019

Killing adult brown skinned is not far fetched

He wanted those Central 5 innocent kids killed....

I wish folks would stop giving him a pass..

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
9. It's to stoke the base. But collateral damage is fine with him.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 08:49 PM
Aug 2019

Brown people are not real human beings to him. I truly believe he sees them as lesser animals.

TlalocW

(15,383 posts)
19. I think both
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 08:59 PM
Aug 2019

There's a level of racism where you fantasize about being able to kill someone who is a different ethnicity. I think some of the bad cops out there joined their departments for that reason. They're more "ambitious." Trump is like one of the smaller White Supremacy groups (I forget which one) which is basically a bunch of fat, old Bubbas who like to go out to the woods and shoot beer cans, while they fantasize about a coming race war, which they hope to get in on the tail end of after most of the shooting has stopped. Like them, Trump tries to be an alpha-male and talks big but deep down, even if he weren't president, he wouldn't risk his position in life to actually do anything, and he knows that even if he did, he'd get his ass handed to him. It's why he was so upset with the release of the Central Park 5. In his mind, he was instrumental in getting them jailed (by buying full-page ads in newspapers), and their being found innocent thanks to DNA and other evidence has robbed him of his "victory."

TlalocW

Azathoth

(4,609 posts)
20. No, he just doesn't care
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 09:05 PM
Aug 2019

He's narcissistic (and mentally ill) to the point of being psychopathic. He doesn't *want* to kill brown people, he just thinks that painting a giant bullseye on them helps him gets what he wants.

malaise

(269,023 posts)
21. He has never suffered the consequences of his behavior
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 09:08 PM
Aug 2019

at any level - in any sphere of his life. He doesn't give a flying fuck

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
24. His day of reckoning is coming
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 09:22 PM
Aug 2019

It will be sudden, swift, and decisive. Mark my words, we will see his spirit completely broken if he doesn't have a heart attack or stroke first. I sense consequences coming.

malaise

(269,023 posts)
26. I agree with you 100%
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 09:25 PM
Aug 2019

Justice is coming but I'll take any of the three -day of reckoning, heart attack or stroke.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
23. Everything Trump does is with purpose of self-gratification, of
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 09:20 PM
Aug 2019

stoking his insatiable ego. He does not see people as anything other than a means to achieve those goals. If people are hurt or die in the process, he does not care. He is incapable of the most basic level of human empathy.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
25. IMO white supremicists/nationalists just want non- whited NOT HERE
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 09:22 PM
Aug 2019

If somehow sll non-whites could just be transported away and never come back that would be fine. Out of sight and out of mind!

I doubt most have wit to consider the reality of 'getting rid of' by killing

Eugene

(61,899 posts)
31. 1. Absolutely because 2. he doesn't give a damn about brown people as human beings.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 09:33 PM
Aug 2019

Does he want brown people shot dead? Maybe. Would it give him any pause? Not in the slightest.

He's playing with fire and he's not worried about burning the country to the ground.

peggysue2

(10,829 posts)
33. I think he's an opportunist and doesn't really care or think about the impact of his words
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 10:15 PM
Aug 2019

From his past, he and his father certainly exhibited racist attitudes. And I don't know how you explain his obsession with the Central Park case or his Obama hangup without admitting the man's racist worldview. With the Hispanic/immigrant comments, he doesn't appear to accept them as fellow human beings, more subhuman in nature. And if it helps his reelection chances, he's proven he's willing to play his base's hate and resentment to the hilt. Whatever happens, happens as long as he's not held accountable.

The term I'm reading more and more is stochastic terrorism. The violent acts appear random but they're triggered by the demagoguery of a Trump or Bannon or Marine Le Pen in France. They throw the words and ideas out there, point out the scapegoats, and then their knuckle-dragging supporters carry out the deed.

It's evil trying to cloak itself in respectability. Although with Trump? The cat's out of the bag.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
34. I doubt he is capable of caring.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 10:17 PM
Aug 2019

The deaths are meaningless to him. What matters are the throngs of adoring followers chanting in unison and the twitter ratings.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
35. Yes. He like the power.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 10:23 PM
Aug 2019

He is a racist, but this is about power. He gets off on getting people to kill their people. It’s a power trip for him.

Initech

(100,079 posts)
38. Well look at the shitheads he surrounds himself with - Gorka, Bannon, Miller, Huckabee...
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 11:07 PM
Aug 2019

You know what they say about judging a person by the company they keep.

nini

(16,672 posts)
40. Yes.. he wants to instill fear
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 11:22 PM
Aug 2019

and keep his minions fired up.


Dead brown skinned people mean absolutely nothing to him.

BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
41. Strangely worded question.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 11:23 PM
Aug 2019

These people?

Yes, Trump is racist, and racism is deeply embedded in our culture, so there's plenty of profit and power to gain by stoking racial divisions.

I'm not down so much with the psychologizing. Trump's got a 50-yesr record of making racist statements and doing overtly racist actions. It's a testament to white supremacy that it took this long before Trump's obvious racism is called out. And it's still not everyone.

Removing Trump by impeachment or voting is just the beginning of a change. Racism runs so deep that much of the time, we don't even know it when we see it. Lots of work in front of us.

struggle4progress

(118,290 posts)
44. Is his mind really a stinking garbage dump, or does he just pretend so for the votes?
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 03:52 PM
Aug 2019

And is there any meaningful difference between the various possible answers to such questions?

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
45. He wants his base to adore him
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 04:55 PM
Aug 2019

if some people have to die to accomplish that, well, he doesn't give a single fuck. I don't think he's capable of caring for anything outside of himself.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
46. I think it's more that he's stoking his base
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 05:03 PM
Aug 2019

and not really caring about the consequences. OTOH he had a hard-on for executing the Central Park Five and seems to share the goal of making America whiter again.

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