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RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
1. Yeah, I often think it's a packaged deal. One with racism also links to exploitation, bigotry,
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 12:07 PM
Aug 2019

hatred, homophobia and on and on to one degree or another ... with often crazy religion thrown in ... probably along with Fox News!

hlthe2b

(102,285 posts)
2. Small family farmers (however rare they are becoming) should not be lumped with your
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 12:07 PM
Aug 2019

condemnation IMO. It is a hard life and few have any ability to hire to any degree, much less exploit.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
5. It goes hand in hand with white entitlement too.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 12:15 PM
Aug 2019

It’s more than racism, which is basically fear and hate of the other. It’s that feeling that they are so privileged that they don’t need to follow any rules. That they’re special, endowed with privilege given to them by God, strictly on the premise that they’re favored and will never pay a price for what they do.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
7. They are in a bubble. A giant bubble, but nonetheless.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 12:35 PM
Aug 2019

Rural folk harbor anti-urban resentments as high as an elephants eye.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. This all started with Nixon in 1956
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 01:52 PM
Aug 2019

with his Attack on one new Farm Group called the NFO(National Farmers Organization). Nixon spun our new Organization into a arm of the Teamsters and Jimmy Hoffa and accusing us of being tied to the Chicago Mob.

The White House at the time,spent millions to convince the Rural Towns that we were the next coming of the Red Invasion. And it worked and we see how Nixon's Big Ag and Big Bank policies have kept Rural America in the GOP back pockets.

All of those Rural White Farmers and Ranchers are still be preached this same garbage yet today. As we were told,you folks out there in fly over land do not know how to market your milk or grain.

Nixon was able to change the Bank of Co-ops lending and ownership rules which is the one item that is causing the farmers from forming their own Marketing groups. Remember the Old Farmers Union,that was our best Marketing arm we had until Nixon changed the Co-op rule. Which caused Farmers Union to be Privatized.





hunter

(38,317 posts)
13. So then, how do they fall for the scams of a big city grifter?
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 01:58 PM
Aug 2019

I thought these fine people, the salt of the earth, were always supposed to be skeptical of the city slicker in the ill-fitting suit who was trying to sell them the Brooklyn Bridge.

Unless "anti-urban" means RACIST.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
15. I don't want to cast too many aspersions on the "Real Americans".
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 02:10 PM
Aug 2019

But you are correct; they fell for the con of a city slicker. Rubes is a word that applies to many (and to many elderly voters from the suburbs as well).

He assures them their fears and hatreds are rational and valid, and his wealth carries authority with them.

Scott Adams (who we all despise, right?) talked to Bill Maher back in '16 about Trump's use of persuasive techniques (AKA Con Man techniques), namely "Pacing and Leading" - when he became King of the Birthers. His constant repetition of mnemonic playground nicknames for his opponents stick in the mind as well. You couldn't think "Hillary" without thinking "Crooked". It works on them; it works on everyone.


Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
8. The folks you are condemning are not really farmers.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 01:41 PM
Aug 2019

They are corporations whose line of business happens to be food production. Not the same thing.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
10. Don't confuse agribusiness -
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 01:48 PM
Aug 2019

which inlcudes at least the large farm owners (and the "majority" to which you are referring) with real farmers.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
14. Are you suggesting
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 01:58 PM
Aug 2019

That the majority of small independent farmers and ranchers didn't vote for Trump?

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
17. I'm suggesting that when you talk about hiring practices,
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 07:47 PM
Aug 2019

you are not talking about small independent farmers and ranchers.

(Your premise was - voting for Trump is inconsistent with their their hiring practices)

As another poster suggested - small independent farmers and ranchers don't generally have "hiring practices," - labor is generally provided by the farmer/rancher, their children, and neighborhood shared work crews.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,355 posts)
16. Depends on the farmer. Seasonal workers are needed for food crops that are picked by hand -- fruits,
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 02:46 PM
Aug 2019

nuts and vegetables. They're not needed so much for commodity crops such as soybeans, wheat, feed corn, etc., because those crops grow in such a way and are at such a scale that planting, managing and harvest are largely mechanized.

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