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If a Wal-Mart full of Texans won't stop a mass shooting... (Original Post) ehrnst Aug 2019 OP
Omigod. That's a mouthful of American wisdom right there. Baitball Blogger Aug 2019 #1
It also seems to portray that Texas Tough Guy persona as bullshit and more like chickenshit. TheBlackAdder Aug 2019 #23
This. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #2
Great cartoon Gothmog Aug 2019 #3
As Rude Pundit pointed out ... eppur_se_muova Aug 2019 #4
I like THEIR way FakeNoose Aug 2019 #17
So true and a classic! NT SWBTATTReg Aug 2019 #5
K&R, uponit7771 Aug 2019 #6
Dubya is overdue in rolling out his 'don't mess with Texas' line Submariner Aug 2019 #7
... Aristus Aug 2019 #8
I think she pretends to like him. flying_wahini Aug 2019 #10
Same blm Aug 2019 #12
he's too busy with subpar paintings of shower feet 912gdm Aug 2019 #22
The assault weapons banned lapsed on his watch. John Fante Aug 2019 #27
Perfect Az_lefty Aug 2019 #9
Texans... tazkcmo Aug 2019 #11
When I have gone there. Blue_true Aug 2019 #14
Spot on! mysteryowl Aug 2019 #13
Good point. PatrickforO Aug 2019 #15
that's exactly what I've been saying study war no more Aug 2019 #16
That's actually going to happen before too long. Ligyron Aug 2019 #19
Damn right. trof Aug 2019 #18
Blows the whole "soft target" out of the water underpants Aug 2019 #20
Texas actually has quite a few barriers to a license required for concealed carry. aikoaiko Aug 2019 #21
Can't you can pretty much walk around w/a gun in a holster on your belt mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #26
They also have open carry IronLionZion Aug 2019 #28
TX GOP ran out of permissive gun laws to pass and added "open carry" of swords. NCLefty Aug 2019 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author NCLefty Aug 2019 #25

eppur_se_muova

(36,263 posts)
4. As Rude Pundit pointed out ...
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 05:22 PM
Aug 2019

The scene in Dayton, with several cops regularly patrolling in the vicinity, was about the best possible scenario for a GGWAG to stop the BGWAG. In that best case, nine people died. NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

The ONLY thing that will help is when BGWNGs are the rule, not the exception.

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
7. Dubya is overdue in rolling out his 'don't mess with Texas' line
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 05:52 PM
Aug 2019

When watching him say that he would smirk and giggle to himself. Connecticut boy thought he was a cowboy. It was pathetic.

Where is he now? Still painting water colors in the shower chugging Jim Beam?

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
27. The assault weapons banned lapsed on his watch.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 03:28 AM
Aug 2019

As if I needed more reasons to hate GWB. Fuck any all attempts to soften his image.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
11. Texans...
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 06:18 PM
Aug 2019

Lots of tough talk and no tough actions. I lived in San Antonio, Dallas, Amarillo and El Paso for a total of about 30 years and my surviving son still lives there and agrees.

Everything is bigger in Texas including the piles of bullshit.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
14. When I have gone there.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 07:04 PM
Aug 2019

The little pipsqueak guys with ten-gallon hats and cowboy boots on climbing down out of a big-assed pickup truck was legion.

Why do you think pickups now have the retractable steppies on them? Because little men like the above rush to buy the biggest possible truck.

PatrickforO

(14,574 posts)
15. Good point.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 07:39 PM
Aug 2019

What's that they say?

The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun?

Not so.

In fact, let's amend that: A good guy with a gun just confuses first responders because then they don't know who the bad guy with the gun is.

16. that's exactly what I've been saying
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 07:56 PM
Aug 2019

if you are flailing a gun around, they will either arrest you or shoot you. And it may take a long time for them to be convinced you weren't one of the bad guys.

Ligyron

(7,632 posts)
19. That's actually going to happen before too long.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 08:09 PM
Aug 2019

Then what will their line be?

I have weapons at home myself but after these last two mass shootings, something in the wind smells different re: doing something about this horror.

underpants

(182,811 posts)
20. Blows the whole "soft target" out of the water
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 08:29 PM
Aug 2019

I was actually thinking the same thing earlier today.

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
21. Texas actually has quite a few barriers to a license required for concealed carry.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 09:58 PM
Aug 2019

You have to jump through more hoops than many states which may limit how many actually had guns on their person.

Concealed carry is legal with a Texas LTC or a concealed carry license/permit from a state with reciprocity, and are issued to both residents and non-residents. They require a four- to six-hour training course as well as passing both a written exam and a shooting proficiency demonstration. Some areas are off-limits, including racetracks and secure areas of airports. In terms of reciprocity, Texas honors permits from states that meet specific criteria.

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/ccw_reciprocity_map/tx-gun-laws/
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
26. Can't you can pretty much walk around w/a gun in a holster on your belt
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 03:05 AM
Aug 2019

In most places in TX?

You certainly seem to be able to do so in Phoenix.

The notion that only someone w/a concealed weapon could've 'done something' ... seems erroneous, unless TX is more strict with open-carry than AZ.

IronLionZion

(45,446 posts)
28. They also have open carry
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 03:52 PM
Aug 2019

which has been a barrier to arresting people with long guns heading towards crowds of people.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
24. TX GOP ran out of permissive gun laws to pass and added "open carry" of swords.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 01:55 AM
Aug 2019

[link:https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/13/us/texas-sword-knives-law-trnd/index.html|

And the cops will probably wind up shooting the "good guy."

The friendly fire possibilities with multiple good guys + cops is limitless.

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