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applegrove

(118,663 posts)
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 07:17 PM Aug 2019

Dayton shooting shows six good guys with guns are no match for a high-capacity magazine

Dayton shooting shows six good guys with guns are no match for a high-capacity magazine

Police in Dayton did their jobs very well. Nine people still died in 30 seconds.

ALAN PYKE at Think Progress

https://thinkprogress.org/six-good-guys-with-guns-in-dayton-and-nine-dead-9099ceb86762/

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Police laid Connor Betts down for good about 30 seconds after he first fired his rifle into the Saturday night crowds of Dayton, Ohio’s main bar district.

Thirty-two seconds, to be exact, according to an ATM camera that captured the sounds of those frantic and deadly moments between Betts’ first shot and the last one fired by police.

The alacrity and heroism of police officers at the scene stands out even more sharply in a separate, sound-free video captured by a bar surveillance camera.

Betts was just one stride from the front door of a bar into which hundreds of people had just fled his fusillade when police finally stopped him. Had it taken even one more second to neutralize him, the videos Dayton Police Chief Richard Biehl shared with the press on Sunday show, he could well have gained entrance and been staring at what amounted to a human shooting gallery.


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FarPoint

(12,399 posts)
1. I have a close friend on Dayton PD...
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 07:23 PM
Aug 2019

He was about 5 minutes out... Said the radio traffic was terrifying...your peers are facing the murderer....the wounded, the massive gun fire...I am so proud of these brave Officers ..

FarPoint

(12,399 posts)
6. They did immediate Triage of the wounded..They blocked of the street in 2 minutes after shooter down
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 09:36 PM
Aug 2019

You can hear this on the radio exchange....It was indeed a war zone....several Officers took wounded in their squad cars to the hospital faster than the medica could get there...needed a lot of medics at thew onset...Miami Valley Hospital was 3 blocks away....

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LisaL

(44,973 posts)
2. No doubt they stopped a lot of additional murders.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 07:24 PM
Aug 2019

If police weren't right there the death toll would be a lot worse.

captain queeg

(10,198 posts)
3. If Trump had been there I'm sure he would have charged right in unarmed
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 07:32 PM
Aug 2019

It’s sickening to even repeat his boast from those school shootings. He is delusional, how can we hope for any action from him.

underpants

(182,814 posts)
4. And the police didn't shoot anyone else from what I understand
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 08:40 PM
Aug 2019

Excellent job and some excellent planning for them to be so prepared and in place.

uponit7771

(90,343 posts)
7. K&R, Good point ... this is about the ***BEST*** reaction America can expect and still 30 people...
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 09:57 PM
Aug 2019

... where killed or shot.

applegrove

(118,663 posts)
9. Nope. But these were trained police. No doubt if john q public started
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 10:37 PM
Aug 2019

shoot with no police to stop the mass murderer, there would have been friendly fire victims.

Luciferous

(6,080 posts)
11. One of my idiot coworkers brought up the shootings and said the guns are not
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 11:04 PM
Aug 2019

the problem. I said he managed to kill 9 people in 30 seconds, how is that not a big part of the problem? He shut up after that.

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