Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

samnsara

(17,625 posts)
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 04:17 PM Aug 2019

Tim O'Brien just hit it out of the park on Nicoles show...

...asked what was going on inside Trumps mind regarding any organization and Tim said all thats in trumps mind is.."a putter, a cheeseburger, someone elses credit card and a porn video..and the rest is empty space'..



love it!

42 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Tim O'Brien just hit it out of the park on Nicoles show... (Original Post) samnsara Aug 2019 OP
How did this happen? madaboutharry Aug 2019 #1
Total control of AM Radio and the creation of Fox News Funtatlaguy Aug 2019 #3
Yes. That pretty much sums it up. madinmaryland Aug 2019 #4
FM radio too, and other corporate news; heck, even PBS diva77 Aug 2019 #15
I don't know how we got here. But I do know that I will never view the collective American the same Blue_true Aug 2019 #5
Never forget malaise Aug 2019 #8
Yes and no. Caliman73 Aug 2019 #16
True but they haven't been voting for ages malaise Aug 2019 #19
No doubt! Caliman73 Aug 2019 #20
Let me add that the business schoos and their hacks have systematically weakened malaise Aug 2019 #21
It is NOT that they cannot see all that in this despicable man... Ferrets are Cool Aug 2019 #6
THIS!!!!!!!!!!! OMGWTF Aug 2019 #9
My BFF for 40+ years, same thing. colorado_ufo Aug 2019 #12
Thank you Ferrets are Cool Aug 2019 #13
They SEE it. They just don't CARE. Because he's a Republican. CousinIT Aug 2019 #29
I ask myself and others this malaise Aug 2019 #7
racism, bigotry, backlash against social changes JI7 Aug 2019 #11
It's not a bug. It's a feature. LuvLoogie Aug 2019 #38
Cheatoh became America's Friend through television. Kid Berwyn Aug 2019 #24
The greatest generation became the ME generation bucolic_frolic Aug 2019 #25
Anyone else remember the original (late Eighties) "Bourne Identity?" maddiemom Aug 2019 #30
Ludlum is a fascinating author who saw govt/terrorist conspiracies everywhere bucolic_frolic Aug 2019 #31
Then after this was established as the reality in real life, there was just one more step needed. Ligyron Aug 2019 #34
You might want to add a sarcasm emoji here.... Pachamama Aug 2019 #35
Yeah, you're probably right. Ligyron Aug 2019 #42
They don't care. CaptYossarian Aug 2019 #32
It was a good line, but would've been more helpful if... polichick Aug 2019 #2
If people cannot see why those are bad qualities in a POTUS, then I don't think a mental health pro FiveGoodMen Aug 2019 #33
Most people who haven't had close-up experience with someone who has... polichick Aug 2019 #37
His stalking Hillary around the debate stage... FiveGoodMen Aug 2019 #39
And yet politicians and media people keep suggesting... polichick Aug 2019 #40
I had certainly hoped that "our" team would show a lot more fight FiveGoodMen Aug 2019 #41
Oh now there's the unbridled truth for ya! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #10
What a nice laugh! PatrickforO Aug 2019 #14
left out a couple of things diva77 Aug 2019 #17
exactly gopiscrap Aug 2019 #18
Seems About Right to Me . . OldManTarHeel Aug 2019 #22
Add in, "if Obama did... zentrum Aug 2019 #23
Ol' pea-brain and his simpleton 3-word phrases Blue Owl Aug 2019 #26
he forgot fux gnewz. pansypoo53219 Aug 2019 #27
Ha! SammyWinstonJack Aug 2019 #28
Good quote. calimary Aug 2019 #36

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
1. How did this happen?
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 04:21 PM
Aug 2019

How did we get to this place? This place where so many Americans are so ignorant and miseducated that they can not see the con man, this degenerate, this soulless horror of a man, standing in front of them. It is so disheartening.

diva77

(7,647 posts)
15. FM radio too, and other corporate news; heck, even PBS
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 05:44 PM
Aug 2019


Board of Directors of CPB has only 3 Obama appointees, vs. 4 by Dump, and the chair is by Bush, Obama & Dump


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation_for_Public_Broadcasting#Objectivity_and_balance_requirements

SNIP
Board composition

The CPB is governed by a nine-member board of directors selected by the President of the United States and confirmed by the Senate; they serve six-year terms. As of May 2019, the board has eight members, with Bruce M. Ramer as the chair.[11] Under the terms of the Public Broadcasting Act of 1967, the President cannot appoint persons of the same political party to more than five of the nine CPB board seats.[12]
CPB Board of Directors Name Title Appointed By
Bruce M. Ramer Chair George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump
Patricia Cahill Vice Chair Barack Obama
Ruby Calvert Member Donald Trump
Judith Davenport Member Barack Obama
Miriam Hellreich Member Donald Trump
Robert Mandell Member Donald Trump
Laura G. Ross Member Donald Trump
Elizabeth Sembler Member Barack Obama

The Board of Directors governs CPB, sets policy, and establishes programming priorities. The Board appoints the president and chief executive officer, who then names the other corporate officers.

SNIP

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
5. I don't know how we got here. But I do know that I will never view the collective American the same
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 04:38 PM
Aug 2019

way ever again.

Coming into the final days of the 2016 race I thought that we as a country would collectively do the right thing and choose decency over what Trump was offering. Then on election night as more results came in, that optimism died. I really don't know what we are collectively as a people. There are lots of good Americans, unfortunately for whatever their reason, they chose not to vote at a critical time for the country. I won't even try to understand the rationale that the 63 million people who voted for that monster made to themselves, what I do know is there is something seriously wrong with them.

Caliman73

(11,742 posts)
16. Yes and no.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 05:51 PM
Aug 2019

I definitely believe that the Republicans cheated with the help of foreign governments to improve their chances of winning. I do not think Trump's election was legitimate. However, and this is big. About 43% to 46% of people eligible to vote did not vote in the election of 2016. Those are major numbers of people who could not or would not cast a ballot. There should never be such a low turnout for electing our public servants. Too many people are checked out of the process.

My wife and I were talking about this and she said that she was somewhat hopeful because a lot of people have been saying, "I wasn't really into politics before but Trump has got me interested because he needs to go." I see her point, but my thinking is, "Why the heck are you not into politics?" I know many of the answers to my question, from "too busy just surviving" to "your vote doesn't really count anyway" to people being shut out of the process. I know all of those situations and understand them to a point. "Politics" has been made into a dirty word. People say, "Oh you are being too political" as if politics is separate from life. Everything that we do is politics because politics has to do with how the population is governed, the rules and policies that are set up as the framework. How is that not important?

malaise

(269,096 posts)
19. True but they haven't been voting for ages
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 06:26 PM
Aug 2019

I agree with you that democracy requires an active and participatory population.
It is the corporations and their neo-liberal backers like Reagan and Thatcher who promoted this negative view of both government and politics.

Caliman73

(11,742 posts)
20. No doubt!
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 06:29 PM
Aug 2019

It is in the best interests of the wealthy to keep the non wealthy from being involved in the decision making process. A well educated populace that is aware of their rights is very dangerous to those who want to accumulate power. It has definitely been a long term project, started I think, prior to Reagan and the neo-liberals, but definitely put on steroids by those freaks.

malaise

(269,096 posts)
21. Let me add that the business schoos and their hacks have systematically weakened
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 06:34 PM
Aug 2019

Last edited Fri Aug 9, 2019, 07:58 PM - Edit history (1)

serious Economics, Political Science and Sociology Departments in our universities. History Departments have been severely damaged or destroyed. Only making money matters, along with corporate power and wealth.

I agree it has been a long term project but everyone should study what was done to Chile.
These are some serious times.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,108 posts)
6. It is NOT that they cannot see all that in this despicable man...
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 04:52 PM
Aug 2019

Put a "D" behind his name and image what they would be saying. That is ALL the deplorable's see...the R behind the name. They are so brainwashed that they worship at the altar of "R".

OMGWTF

(3,968 posts)
9. THIS!!!!!!!!!!!
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 05:00 PM
Aug 2019

My BFF of 35 years is a raving Trumper because her husband is very big in DC Republican circles which, in the past, I could deal with, but this daily Trump firehose of sh!t makes me sick AF. We were friends before he got a hold of her brain so I try to remember who she once was but it's getting harder and harder to do. Thankfully, I live in the other Washington so we don't see each other very often and when we do, we don't talk politics; I have other friends for that.

colorado_ufo

(5,737 posts)
12. My BFF for 40+ years, same thing.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 05:12 PM
Aug 2019

However, she was always super smart - in spite of all the alcohol she drank - and it was hard to tell whether she really believed something or was just messing with you.

She lives close by, has had health issues. I just remember all the kindnesses she has shown to me in the past, and I to her.

CousinIT

(9,251 posts)
29. They SEE it. They just don't CARE. Because he's a Republican.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 11:23 AM
Aug 2019

As you say, put a 'D' behind his name and they'd have impeached him the first week.

JI7

(89,255 posts)
11. racism, bigotry, backlash against social changes
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 05:11 PM
Aug 2019

people aren't ignorant of what trump is. it's that people are ok with it .

LuvLoogie

(7,016 posts)
38. It's not a bug. It's a feature.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 04:02 PM
Aug 2019

And friends and family don't like being called on it. It's like they on purpose and with fair warning walked in dog shit and get hurt because you won't let them walk into your house. Then they call you a hater.

They are fine because he shit's on all the people they shit on, or they don't care about it because of taxes, guns, or abortion. It's like their "Patriotism" or reverence for "The Sanctity of Life" innoculates them against the corruption from the shit they support and tolerate against their fellow citizens.

Kid Berwyn

(14,933 posts)
24. Cheatoh became America's Friend through television.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 06:54 PM
Aug 2019

Like Johnny Carson or other famous star or “personality”, everybody knows who he is.

The Unstable Moron was on national tee vee over a decade. Smart people knew him a fiend. His moronic base see him a friend.

Majority continues to see through the con, but after he started the open air racialism, he sealed his base.

bucolic_frolic

(43,228 posts)
25. The greatest generation became the ME generation
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 07:14 PM
Aug 2019

Life became about getting mine, for me, and corporate American profited from it, and business owners, mostly Republican, pushed it for all it was worth. Think of the 1950s and 60s movies that were a lot historical, educational, cold war, WWII, life struggle. There were comedies, but they were a diversion.

Now we have fantasy movies. Everything's cooked up in digital. Do stunt men exist anymore? Or is it all done on a PC. Is it me? I can't find the plot in Jason Bourne movies. There's too much virtual reality. Could they make money with "Spy Game" today? How many times can you make a coming of age movie? Is it all about T & A? THere's simply too liitle or no realism at all.

So people are not learning their history or their lessons. Religion has become sterilized and sanitized. This blossomed with the election of Reagan. Kids began to be raised by TVs, latchkey kids. The whole culture has stripped the knowledge and means of transmitting the knowledge from our heads.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
30. Anyone else remember the original (late Eighties) "Bourne Identity?"
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 12:05 PM
Aug 2019

It was a TV miniseries with Richard Chamberlain and pretty much followed the Robert Ludlum book; just cut down a bit/simplified. It made a lot more sense than the Matt Damon remakes(s). I was wondering if it was just my now advanced age that caused me to have a problem following the new film versions of the Bourne books.

bucolic_frolic

(43,228 posts)
31. Ludlum is a fascinating author who saw govt/terrorist conspiracies everywhere
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 01:00 PM
Aug 2019

No I never saw the miniseries. But Ludlum's books were complicated, and translating them to a screenplay must have been a challenge. The Holcroft Covenant movie, for example, has conspirators but the audience is never told who/what they are. Adding the virtual reality flash of modern films cuts down on the screen time for depth and understanding of the whole plot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Ludlum

" The world in his writings is one where global corporations, shadowy military forces and government organizations all conspired to preserve (if it was evil) or undermine (if it was law-abiding) the status quo."

"His depictions of terrorism in books such as The Holcroft Covenant and The Matarese Circle reflected the theory that terrorists, rather than being merely isolated bands of ideologically motivated extremists, are actually pawns of governments or private organizations who are using them to facilitate the establishment of authoritarian rule."

Ligyron

(7,637 posts)
34. Then after this was established as the reality in real life, there was just one more step needed.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 01:50 PM
Aug 2019

Last edited Sat Aug 10, 2019, 05:32 PM - Edit history (1)

It wasn't much of a leap either, and that is: It's really the Democrat's who are that well hidden "they" behind all this evil.

NEVER, under any circumstances EVER vote for a Democrat!

Because truth is stranger than fiction and life is imitating art. Or is it the other way around?


just in case...

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
32. They don't care.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 01:08 PM
Aug 2019

They don't care about their country, about democracy, about their fellow human beings, about the environment, about women's reproductive rights or about separated families.

All they care about is falsely blaming their failures on people of color and getting revenge for having a non-white president. That's how deep their hate runs.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
2. It was a good line, but would've been more helpful if...
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 04:22 PM
Aug 2019

there was also a mental health professional on the panel explaining what it means to the country.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
33. If people cannot see why those are bad qualities in a POTUS, then I don't think a mental health pro
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 01:45 PM
Aug 2019

would change it.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
37. Most people who haven't had close-up experience with someone who has...
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 03:13 PM
Aug 2019

narcississtic personality disorder really can’t get their minds around the inability to have empathy, or the way others are seen as tools/props to be used, not as valuable human beings.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
39. His stalking Hillary around the debate stage...
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 04:19 PM
Aug 2019

His mockery of the disabled...

His comment about "blood coming from her wherever"...

His on-tape comments to Billy Bush...

His Birther nonsense from years gone by...



NO ONE should have been surprised that he's a baby and an asshole.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
40. And yet politicians and media people keep suggesting...
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 04:56 PM
Aug 2019

that he might do better, that he might get it, that he might rise to the occasion, etc., etc.

Even many people in power are still in denial about how dangerous he is - they don’t seem to understand the enemy at all, and are mostly silent as he dismantles the government.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
41. I had certainly hoped that "our" team would show a lot more fight
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 04:59 PM
Aug 2019

Maybe everyone expects the fascists to win and are just trying to position themselves for the brave new world.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Tim O'Brien just hit it o...