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Boris Johnson has only been Prime Minister of the United Kingdom for two weeks, and in that time he has already broken a political record, not that it is an accolade he wanted to achieve. After only 11 days in office, the new PM lost a by-election faster than any Prime Minister in history, beating H.H. Asquiths previous record in 1908 (16 days). Unfortunately for Mr Johnson, this might not be the only Prime Ministerial record he is in danger of breaking. It the precarious political climate, it is looking like a strong possibility Mr Johnson could become Britains shortest-serving Prime Minister ever, taking the title from current holder George Canning who was only in office for 119 days.
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mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)luvtheGWN
(1,336 posts)With somewhat less majesty, Prince Charles is "Your Royal Highness". Both are silly terms, I admit!
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)The thought that Russia can take down both the US and UK at virtually the same moment is too terrible. But can Parliament come to its senses and back down from the calamity of Brexit? The queen can't just order up a new PM by fiat. She's not her 16th century namesake, after all.
lapucelle
(18,303 posts)Royal insiders have claimed that The Queen is very much of the opinion that politicians in the United Kingdom have an inability to govern leaving the monarch dismayed.
According to a report in the Sunday Times, The Queen made the comments at a private event shortly after David Cameron resigned as Prime Minister and the UK voted to leave the European Union in a public referendum.
As politicians call for Her Majesty to intervein in the ongoing Brexit crisis, a royal source has claimed that the 93-year-old monarchs frustration has only grown further.
The source said: I think shes really dismayed. Ive heard her talking about her disappointment in the current political class and its inability to govern correctly.
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The revelations of Her Majestys candid viewpoints shows that she is perhaps very much in touch with the majority of the population who are dismayed by events happening in Westminster.
MPs have recently been threatening to drag The Queen into the Brexit debate, with Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell saying: I dont want to drag the Queen into this but I would be sending Jeremy Corbyn in a cab to Buckingham Palace to say were taking over.
https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/queen/the-queen-dismayed-by-politicians-who-have-an-inability-to-govern-128448/
luvtheGWN
(1,336 posts)She does not want to see the breakup of her United Kingdom, which is surely going to happen if Boorish Boris gets his way with a no-deal Brexit. She depends on the good will of her British subjects, and if a great majority of her subjects are opposed to Brexit, then surely she is obligated to let her feelings be known. This would be no different than defending the Church of England publicly as she is the Defender of the Faith.
Speak up, Your Majesty. Defend your United Kingdom (or should it be termed United Queendom?).
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)Soph0571
(9,685 posts)The Queen will not risk the constitution by doing this. She will urge the leaders of our various political parties to find a solution, but she is not going to risk the crown because we are governed by a bunch of arseholes. As much as I wish she would disregard established law to save us from the beast of Brexit, she will not.
lapucelle
(18,303 posts)Do you think this was something deliberately leaked by the Queen through intermediaries or was it just someone's loose tongue?
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)I really wish their analysis was correct, but it is not. That is not how our constitution or the monarchy works. The Queen has nothing to do with this. The Palace does not leak on issues of the constitution. Ever.
lapucelle
(18,303 posts)Takket
(21,607 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)The electors aren't bound to vote for Trump, so, they can technically cast their ballot for someone else!
Maybe in the most literal sense of the US Constitution (depending on state, I believe), but no way would any elector do something like that.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)from moves to gain independence from say, Scotland and Wales (unlikely but theoretically possible)?
Is she powerless with those matters as well?........
I suspect most of us here know very little about the powers granted royalty in the UK and are prone to think in terms of royalty that act in a far more controlling fashion.
There seems to be tremendous differences around the globe, from brutal dictators to those that are just figureheads.
Denzil_DC
(7,250 posts)Whether Scotland or Wales seek independence is ultimately up to the people Scotland and Wales, likewise if Northern Ireland were to decide to unite with the Republic. Any such moves would have to be negotiated with Westminster, but it's not as if the queen would veto the results of any deliberations.
The queen is a little more than just a figurehead in that she does have a constitutional and advisory role, but in terms of outright power, the monarchy's hands are pretty much tied, and in the UK, parliament is sovereign.
I'd take anything that comes from "Royal Central", the site the OP's based on, with a massive pinch of salt. It's basically a clickbait one man band.
There may well be attempts at complex parliamentary machinations as the withdrawal date grows near, but they're already well covered by more reputable media than this site.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)I rely almost entirely on The Guardian, BBC, DW and other European sites for UK and EU news.
I think this answered my question best: "in the UK, parliament is sovereign."
The Queen's message to Parliament and all the pomp and ceremony tends to lead one to erroneously think she has a degree of power like our president. I need to spend more time studying UK's current system of governance.
Thanks!.......
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)Soph0571
(9,685 posts)In theory she has the right to dissolve parliament and appointment a new Prime Minister who she believes would have the confidence of the House of Parliament. In practice this is ceremonial after an election. We have a fixed term Parliamentary period which can only be dissolved in very particular circumstances and although this is a new convention she will not break with it. I think that idea of the Union dissolving would be of great distress to the Queen, and I am very sure she is working incredibly hard behind the scenes to keep it all together, this does not mean that she can change our leaders willy nilly. That would be a royal coup... never going to happen. We are the oldest modern democracy on the planet and we have held it together this long because of the way our unwritten constitution works...
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)I hope you understand our misconceptions on this side of the pond. Obviously, our thinking revolves around our Congress and state legislatures.
Parliamentary forms of government can be very confusing, especially considering all the variations around the globe. I think your loosely formed constitution is the most difficult thing to wrap our heads around. More stuff to learn at 71 YO....
We appreciate your very thoughtful help......
crazytown
(7,277 posts)lapucelle
(18,303 posts)I had never heard of the TFA.
Given the unfortunate state of his collar in the photo, my first thought was that he was a comedian.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-the-uk/rory-stewart-the-insurgent-candidate-for-prime-minister-soars-up-and-out