Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 06:32 PM Aug 2019

Haven't followed the news closely today, but the Statue of Liberty shit killed me.

FUCK Cuccinelli, and FUCK Trump for doubling down on it.

“I don’t think it’s fair to have the American tax payer … you know, it’s about America first,” the president said. “I don’t think it’s fair to have the American taxpayer pay for people to come into the United States,” he added. “I am tired of seeing our taxpayer pay for people to come into the country that immediately go onto welfare and various other things.”

Now Trump's an advocate of what's "fair" to the American tax-payer? Someone who's gamed the system in every way possible, and who has boned the American tax-payer out of over $112 million for his golf trips?

It seems like the only hope is that he keeps making the divide wider, so that all that is left on "his side" are the MAGAts, and they alone won't be enough to re-elect him. How in the hell can "undecided" voters witness this and remain "undecided?"

6 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Haven't followed the news closely today, but the Statue of Liberty shit killed me. (Original Post) Miles Archer Aug 2019 OP
Canada's motto is Peace, Order and Good Government. The Conservatives applegrove Aug 2019 #1
We should send the Statue of Liberty back to France. We have no use for it. spanone Aug 2019 #2
NOBODY choie Aug 2019 #3
Exactly! They are so full of shit- I see this as marching towards - tulipsandroses Aug 2019 #6
As if his immigrant mother was totally self-sufficient. Oh, maybe his pimp grandfather was. brush Aug 2019 #4
Sheesh! Newest Reality Aug 2019 #5

applegrove

(118,696 posts)
1. Canada's motto is Peace, Order and Good Government. The Conservatives
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 06:58 PM
Aug 2019

in Canada tried to change that too when they were in power. I wonder if Stephen Harper is advising Trump.

choie

(4,111 posts)
3. NOBODY
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 07:09 PM
Aug 2019

except maybe asylees or refugees is able to get "welfare" (as he puts it) as soon as they enter the U.S, For SNAP alone, you must be a legal permanent resident for 5 years to be eligible. You STUPID FAT FUCK!!

tulipsandroses

(5,124 posts)
6. Exactly! They are so full of shit- I see this as marching towards -
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 08:01 PM
Aug 2019

the next step - barring permanent residents citizenship - at least to only certain immigrants. He's not stupid. At least not on that. Its all to stir up the base, whom may be ignorant on how the immigration system works.

Interestingly - permanent residents pay taxes - can't vote - It behooves one to become a citizen as soon as one is eligible- but you pay all the taxes as citizens do- employment, home owner taxes if you buy a home. They are also not mentioning the back taxes that immigrants pay when their status is adjusted if they did not pay enough or any taxes while working. This is a sham on the American people telling them that immigrants are a drain and contribute nothing. This is part of their master plan to stop or limit immigration to Eurpean immigrants.

brush

(53,791 posts)
4. As if his immigrant mother was totally self-sufficient. Oh, maybe his pimp grandfather was.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 07:11 PM
Aug 2019

What's with so many whites with immigrant roots always wanting the doors closed behind them.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
5. Sheesh!
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 07:14 PM
Aug 2019

Should we break out the list? There should be a handy one available for reference so we don't have to keep repeating it. It really needs to take a priority.

Why? Well, just imagine that the things that are important and beneficial to our commons and our personal lives were funded? They could be, that is, if fabrications like we are hearing were given no credence whatsoever. They are pure fiction, repeated over and over again into being feasible or true.

Fair? Billions are wasted away on defense contracts and the obese and growing military budget. We have spent enough on weapons and war to completely solve many, many social issues a few times over. I don't see them being tired that we pay for a lot of things we don't really want or need. We pay for them to play. Enough!

Oh, and let's keep cutting taxes to the wealthy and big corporations, (how much don't they pay in taxes?) as if they don't use our vast and rather expensive, (and now crumbling) infrastructure. We get to pay for the infrastructure that still functions while they inject high doses of profit into their veins.

One can go on and on...subsidies, kickbacks, etc., etc. Do we really have to finance corruption, too? Well, open your wallets because here they come for it.

What is not fair to the taxpayers is to obscure the facts about how this is being largely ignored. Playing the game about what is spent on who and that there is not enough for this and that is pure deception to a high degree. That's what's no fair.

You want fair? I will give you fair and truth to go with it. I wish we were all turning this around because it is not about "not enough money", it is about not enough for US and our NEEDS and more for a few. The proof is in the numbers we see all the time, as well. The wealthy are on a non-stop roll and more and more of us are getting a well lubricated ride down the destitution tube.

Believing in this manufactured scarcity is now draining us dry and opening the doors to more vulture capitalism because large segments of our population are becoming too weak, (financially, physically, emotionally, etc.) to do anything but survive and try to not become homeless. It is like a swarm of ravenous mosquito have descended on us and there are more on the way.

I would say that anyone who is using what we common folks pay in taxes as agitprop leverage for ulterior motives needs to be called out and exposed for perpetrating a big hoax and diverting a focus on what is most essential and dire right now. Do they think we are all low-information voters who always vote against our better interests?

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Haven't followed the news...