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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,036 posts)
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 07:43 PM Aug 2019

Power blows past $9,000 cap in Texas as heat triggers emergency

Electricity prices briefly surged past a $9,000 a megawatt-hour price cap in Texas as extreme heat sent power demand skyrocketing and forced the state’s grid operator to declare an emergency.

As temperatures in Dallas climbed to 103 degrees Fahrenheit (39 Celsius), the Electric Reliability Council of Texas issued an emergency alert, calling on all power plants to ramp up and asking customers to conserve. At one point on Tuesday afternoon, the region had just 2,121 megawatts left in power reserves, less than 3% of total demand on the system.

The prospect of supply shortages sent wholesale electricity prices surging past $9,000 a megawatt-hour for several minutes, triggering a limit set by Ercot to avoid runaway prices during extreme events. They remained near the cap at around 5 p.m. local time as demand began leveling off and the region’s supply margins widened.

Power contracts traded on the Intercontinental Exchange were similarly headed for record settlements, said David Hoy, an electricity trader at Dynasty Power. “It’s almost guaranteed now,” he said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/power-blows-past-dollar9000-cap-in-texas-as-heat-triggers-emergency/ar-AAFL62t?li=BBnbfcN

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Power blows past $9,000 cap in Texas as heat triggers emergency (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2019 OP
TX should just bill the Chinese . . . Haggis for Breakfast Aug 2019 #1
We got a couple of robocalls from the electric company TexasBushwhacker Aug 2019 #2
and folks look at me cross-eyed CDerekGo Aug 2019 #3
Texas produces more wind enerGy than any other US state blogslut Aug 2019 #4
But if the wind stops blowing you're screwed. Lochloosa Aug 2019 #6
That's not how wind energy works blogslut Aug 2019 #9
Honest question... Yeehah Aug 2019 #11
Batteries and/or compressed air blogslut Aug 2019 #13
Anywhere this is being used on a large scale? Yeehah Aug 2019 #14
I have minimal knowlege blogslut Aug 2019 #15
Short answer is Disaffected Aug 2019 #18
Yep, we got plenty of hot air here. In all seriousness we could easily produce a lot of solar energy walkingman Aug 2019 #10
Still 100-deg. in Dallas at 7:00pm. KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2019 #5
This is my first month nocoincidences Aug 2019 #7
I actually have a rep coming out tomorrow to look at putting panels on my garage/barn roof 912gdm Aug 2019 #12
Shouldn't most of Texas be good for solar? PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2019 #8
Perhaps, but TX is gearing for wind. Igel Aug 2019 #16
Why not both? PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2019 #20
Several e-mails asking to conserve Texasgal Aug 2019 #17
It's gonna be 113 here in Phoenix for the next several days. Coventina Aug 2019 #19

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
2. We got a couple of robocalls from the electric company
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 07:48 PM
Aug 2019

in Houston, asking us to turn our thermostats up a few degrees.

blogslut

(38,002 posts)
4. Texas produces more wind enerGy than any other US state
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 07:55 PM
Aug 2019

Granted, it needs to be more but we're working on it.

blogslut

(38,002 posts)
9. That's not how wind energy works
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 08:23 PM
Aug 2019

The electricity generated is stored. Incidentally, the turbines are designed to stop when the wind is too high. I know you're being silly but, I can't help an *actually* kind of gal.

Yeehah

(4,588 posts)
11. Honest question...
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 08:36 PM
Aug 2019

Lacking a pumped storage facility, how is power from wind energy stored?

Thanks.

Yeehah

(4,588 posts)
14. Anywhere this is being used on a large scale?
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 09:12 PM
Aug 2019

I'm aware of a 10 MW battery in Holland, but nothing on the scale that could support the grid.

walkingman

(7,628 posts)
10. Yep, we got plenty of hot air here. In all seriousness we could easily produce a lot of solar energy
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 08:34 PM
Aug 2019

in Texas if not for the dominance of the fossil fuel industry. I wish we could head that direction.

nocoincidences

(2,220 posts)
7. This is my first month
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 08:21 PM
Aug 2019

with a net-metered solar installation. I have 25 panels installed on my south facing roof, in Va. Beach where we have a LOT of sunny days.

I don't really have enough data to evaluate it, yet, but it can't be any worse than my electric bill has been the last few years!!

912gdm

(959 posts)
12. I actually have a rep coming out tomorrow to look at putting panels on my garage/barn roof
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 08:43 PM
Aug 2019

My sister put panels on her roof last year and was saying she is getting a credit on her bill every month. She says 2-3 hundred, but I haven't seen a bills so I'm taking that with a grain of salt. But hell, any credit is worth it

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
8. Shouldn't most of Texas be good for solar?
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 08:22 PM
Aug 2019

I live in New Mexico, and I recently had solar installed. I'm beyond thrilled with it. When I'm generating excess electricity, I'm actually selling it back to PNM. I won't make a lot of money off them, but it's going to be nice.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
16. Perhaps, but TX is gearing for wind.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 10:38 PM
Aug 2019

A lot of the build-out started in the mid-00s, 2004-06, before the financial panic, and came on line in 2009, 2010, 2011. It's continued pretty consistently, and mostly in west Texas. Transmission's a bit of a bear, since regulators and owners don't want the transmission towers/lines (so it's the same problem that NY State had, with land owners in the Finger Lakes, for example Skaneateles).

Check in at Galveston Harbor or drive the main routes from the Port of Houston and you see wind tower parts or turbine blades being offloaded or transported fairly frequently, so the build-out continues.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
20. Why not both?
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 12:45 AM
Aug 2019

I have no idea if it's remotely practical for a homeownder to install a wind turbine in the back yard, but solar panels on a roof are very easy to do individually.

No, I didn't do it myself. I did it through a company going around installing solar panels.

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