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deminks

(11,017 posts)
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:06 AM Aug 2019

My WTF moment for the morning re Barr.




You cannot make this up. AG Barr's father hired Epstein without a college degree to teach at the prep school he ran & wrote 2 books while Epstein worked there: One,
"Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale," is about sex slaves! Check google if you don't believe.

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My WTF moment for the morning re Barr. (Original Post) deminks Aug 2019 OP
Yep, a lot of those "lost" kids in Red Don's concentration camps are sold into sex slavery. It's ... uponit7771 Aug 2019 #1
Rush Limbaugh might be living the dream soon, a harem of peasant houseboys to brewens Aug 2019 #3
He's gotta move fast RVN VET71 Aug 2019 #27
Been saying that since 2naSalit Aug 2019 #31
+1, this would be a cooky conspiracy theory 4 years ago but now there's a good chance its true !! uponit7771 Aug 2019 #32
THIS is a big PERSONAL reason Barr wanted the AG job - to try and control blm Aug 2019 #2
Small world. Kid Berwyn Aug 2019 #4
Barr recused himself from the Epstein case, Scarsdale Aug 2019 #8
i have always wondered who was paying her to "model". mopinko Aug 2019 #18
I dunno RVN VET71 Aug 2019 #29
Very important questions we need answered. Kid Berwyn Aug 2019 #30
Anyone besides me wondered CDerekGo Aug 2019 #5
If he'd been granted bail and house arrest, people would have been furious StarfishSaver Aug 2019 #7
No Ponietz Aug 2019 #24
She's a little late with this startling revelation. Pepsidog Aug 2019 #6
Trustworthy Jill Wine-Banks marieo1 Aug 2019 #9
Donald Barr resigned from Dalton School in Feb 1974 alp227 Aug 2019 #10
Please provide a source for this statement. hedda_foil Aug 2019 #12
The dates are accurate, but Barr may have hired Epstein before he left. TwilightZone Aug 2019 #13
2/20/74 NY Times story about Donald Barr resigning alp227 Aug 2019 #21
Plus Barr visited Epstein's jail BEFORE both 'suicide' attempts, if DU is correct on this point. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2019 #11
Doesn't appear to be accurate. TwilightZone Aug 2019 #14
Ah, thanks for nipping this one in the bud. I won't repeat it. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2019 #19
Yeap, here is a teaser of the book Perseus Aug 2019 #15
It Was Out There In The OPen For All To See Me. Aug 2019 #16
What is Donald Barr's history since then? Ilsa Aug 2019 #17
Sounds like he and Epstein were of the same frame of mind Perseus Aug 2019 #26
From the Encyclopedia of Science Fiction on Donald Barr Red Pest Aug 2019 #20
FWIW cannabis_flower Aug 2019 #22
You don't need a teaching degree or credential to teach in CA BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #34
If I had a daughter that went to that school when Epstein was there. Farmer-Rick Aug 2019 #23
The Epstein-Barr story makes me sick. lagomorph777 Aug 2019 #25
I knew about the senior Barr hiring the uncredentialed Epstein to teach but I had... brush Aug 2019 #28
Barr just happens to be there whenever the Gangster State needs a friend. Kid Berwyn Aug 2019 #33
He protested in favor of the Vietnam War...go figure. BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #35
Lots of brave draft dodgers did. Kid Berwyn Aug 2019 #36

uponit7771

(90,359 posts)
1. Yep, a lot of those "lost" kids in Red Don's concentration camps are sold into sex slavery. It's ...
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:08 AM
Aug 2019

... going to be a Vice story 10 years from now.

RVN VET71

(2,697 posts)
27. He's gotta move fast
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:51 AM
Aug 2019

Those boys aren't getting any younger, and his Viagra prescriptions are due to expire.

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
31. Been saying that since
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:27 PM
Aug 2019

they started kidnapping them, and I claimed that the whole idiot45 mess that he has been covering up is about the sex slavery, the russia thing is just a transaction to protect the wolrd-wide cabal of slave owners and marketers.

blm

(113,083 posts)
2. THIS is a big PERSONAL reason Barr wanted the AG job - to try and control
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:12 AM
Aug 2019

the Epstein story and fallout. His dad hired young Jeff for his skill at seducing and grooming young girls for older men. Been going on for centuries.

Kid Berwyn

(14,953 posts)
4. Small world.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:18 AM
Aug 2019
The Ties That Bind Jeffrey Epstein, William Barr & Donald Trump

Todd Neikirk
Hill Reporter, May 19, 2019

During Attorney General, William Barr’s confirmation hearing, he was mostly peppered with questions about how he would handle the Mueller Report. Senator Ben Sasse’s (R-NE) questioning, however, diverged from the pack. Sasse asked Barr about the lenient sentence given out to billionaire pedophile, Jeffrey Epstein. The future Attorney General told Sasse that he would look into the matter.

This, however, was not the first connection between Barr and his family and the disgraced pedophile. In 1973, Barr’s father Donald, the headmaster at Manhattan’s Dalton School, hired Epstein as a calculus and physics teacher.

While hiring Epstein, a noted mathematics genius, was not strange on its face, the hire was unusual for a number of reasons. Epstein had not earned a college degree as he dropped out of New York’s prestigious Cooper Union. The other odd circumstance was that the new teacher was only 20 years of age.

Apparently, the hire was a successful one. The New Yorker wrote in a 2003 profile on Epstein, “he was something of a Robin Williams–in–Dead Poets Society type of figure, wowing his high-school classes with passionate mathematical riffs.” Epstein’s mathematical skills caught the eye of Bear Stearns’ chairman, Alan “Ace” Greenberg, whose son attended the Dalton School. Greenberg hired Epstein as an options trader and the former teacher was able to amass a fortune.

Continues....

https://hillreporter.com/the-ties-that-bind-jeffrey-epstein-william-barr-donald-trump-34107

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Then there’s Alex Acosta...

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
8. Barr recused himself from the Epstein case,
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:47 AM
Aug 2019

then changed his mind, or had his mind changed FOR him. He should be removed from this investigation. He is too close to the players in this case. By the way, it was revealed that Epstein introduced tRump to wife #3. How did he know her, I wonder? Oh, wait, he was deeply involved in the sex trade and so was she so there is that. Could this have any connection to Epstein's "suicide"?

mopinko

(70,203 posts)
18. i have always wondered who was paying her to "model".
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:49 AM
Aug 2019

epstein had a modeling agency, didnt he? i read he wanted to set it up "just like trump's"

RVN VET71

(2,697 posts)
29. I dunno
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:10 PM
Aug 2019

Maybe he was just interested in Slovenian history and culture. Y'know, just like Donald Trump was. History buffs, the two of 'em.

And math! Don't forget the maths! FYI, Slovenia has bested Croatia in mathematics for decades (true story), and Epstein was a math genius (also reportedly true). So that could be the connection: Epstein, Melania, and Slovenian advances in mathematics. All the proof you need. A natural coming together of 2 brilliant minds. OK, OK, one brilliant mind and one pretty nifty body (at the time). One brilliant mind in a body drawn to women "some of whom were on the young side," as our Leader put it. One nifty-body seeking dollars as courtesan-model instead of declining tolars by entering the U.S. via an "Einstein visa."

(Not kidding about Einstein visa. Melania actually got one of 3 awarded to all Slovenians the year she came to U.S. Is special visa for genius writers, actors, philosophers, and in one special case, a real nifty body!)

Kid Berwyn

(14,953 posts)
30. Very important questions we need answered.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:25 PM
Aug 2019

Melanie sounds like a honey trap from the get-go.

Regarding Epstein’s enablers, remember he held a Saudi passport. They can afford the best and the most often.

CDerekGo

(507 posts)
5. Anyone besides me wondered
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:22 AM
Aug 2019

Exactly why no Bail for Jeffrey Epstein, besides the obvious 'flee' reasons? Let's face it, he's easier to 'suicide' in jail than in his own home under House Arrest, right.....????

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
7. If he'd been granted bail and house arrest, people would have been furious
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:46 AM
Aug 2019

And if something had happened to him on the outside, they'd be making the same allegations they're making now, and would be dementia to know why he was released instead of remaining in custody where he'd have been "safe."

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
9. Trustworthy Jill Wine-Banks
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:47 AM
Aug 2019

Jill Wine-Banks is a very honest credible lady. She would not have said with out researching this completely. I totally trust her. Thanks, Jill Wine-Banks.

TwilightZone

(25,476 posts)
13. The dates are accurate, but Barr may have hired Epstein before he left.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:07 AM
Aug 2019

"Epstein started working in September 1974 as a physics and mathematics teacher at the Dalton School on the Upper East Side of Manhattan,[22][24] where Donald Barr was the headmaster until June 1974. Barr may have hired Epstein.[25][24]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#Teaching

alp227

(32,047 posts)
21. 2/20/74 NY Times story about Donald Barr resigning
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:18 AM
Aug 2019
https://www.nytimes.com/1974/02/20/archives/barr-quits-dalton-school-post-charging-trustees-interference.html

This NYT story from last month [link:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/12/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-dalton-teacher.html
|reported]:

In February 1974, Mr. Barr had announced that he was resigning as headmaster, protesting the meddling by the board of trustees, but that he would stay on until the end of the school year. It is unclear whether Mr. Barr hired Mr. Epstein during that time.
 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
15. Yeap, here is a teaser of the book
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:16 AM
Aug 2019

On a distant planet in the distant future...

When all the galaxies are colonized, John Craig, a young space diplomat, is captured by interplanetary pirates and sold into slavery.

On Kossr, where boredom and absolute power have driven the rulers to a special kind of madness, Craig is auctioned off to the exquisite Lady Morgan Sidney, a beautiful, sensual woman. He soon makes his way from the hellish slave mines into her bed in the tower of her castle. And it is here, under the strange castle, that he finds the secret that may bring about the end of man in the galaxy

Me.

(35,454 posts)
16. It Was Out There In The OPen For All To See
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:30 AM
Aug 2019

Epstein would walk the halls of the prestigious prep school wearing a fur coat over his bare chest and gold chains. The kids knew, why not Barr?

Ilsa

(61,697 posts)
17. What is Donald Barr's history since then?
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:48 AM
Aug 2019

Reviews of the book on Amazon indicate it was really awful, except for a few reviewers who liked how "sexy" it was. One reviewer noted that the author frequently referred to adult characters as boys and girls when they were in sexual situations.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
26. Sounds like he and Epstein were of the same frame of mind
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:50 AM
Aug 2019

Maybe that is why Barr doesn't want to recuse himself, maybe there are some secrets about daddy and Epstein's adventures in space that Barr doesn't want people to know about?

Red Pest

(288 posts)
20. From the Encyclopedia of Science Fiction on Donald Barr
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:05 AM
Aug 2019
Barr, Donald (1921-2004) US author and academic, former assistant dean of the Engineering School of Columbia University, and author of several nonfiction works for children as well as Who Pushed Humpty Dumpty, or The Education of a Headmaster (1971), on US education. His sf novel, Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale (1973), is a Space Opera interlaced amusingly with "literary" analogues to its tale of a space diplomat, sold into Slavery, who is sexually excited by fear, thus enticing a princess, and who also finds out grim secrets about an alien Invasion of Earth. A Planet in Arms (1981) is noticeably less elated.

While I love SciFi, what is with these "authors" that write about sex slaves and people who are sexually excited by fear. Hmmm, a school headmaster and part-time author...could this have been projection? Wishful thinking? Sounds like a real F'ed up headmaster. Puns anyone?

cannabis_flower

(3,765 posts)
22. FWIW
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:33 AM
Aug 2019

It wasn't so long ago that people who had no teaching credentials were allowed to teach in public schools. In Texas, if you already have a degree in something, you can get a provisional certificate if you are working on your certification. I'm not sure if there are any requirements for teaching in a private school in Texas. I'm not saying that it was right, just that it was allowed and in private schools maybe still is.

BigmanPigman

(51,626 posts)
34. You don't need a teaching degree or credential to teach in CA
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:29 PM
Aug 2019

charter schools. At least you didn't about 5 years ago when I knew someone who did this.

Farmer-Rick

(10,206 posts)
23. If I had a daughter that went to that school when Epstein was there.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:34 AM
Aug 2019

Especially if she was younger than 16 at the time she attended, I would be lawyering up.

Pedophiles are not known for their self control. If Epstein was exposed to "younger" girls, (he supposedly only taught "older" girls 17 and 18.) he would have acted out in some manner.

brush

(53,840 posts)
28. I knew about the senior Barr hiring the uncredentialed Epstein to teach but I had...
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:59 AM
Aug 2019

no idea Barr's father wrote a book on sex slaves.

Now it makes me wonder who influenced who? Also I wonder now if the senior Barr was perhaps serviced by Epstein's sex slaves?

It doesn't get anymore depraved than this corrupt scumminess, and the junior Barr has certainly shown by his outright attempt to whitewash the Mueller Report that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Kid Berwyn

(14,953 posts)
33. Barr just happens to be there whenever the Gangster State needs a friend.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 04:47 PM
Aug 2019
Bill Barr: The "Cover-Up General"

"At the center of the criticism is the chief artic­ulator of Bush's imperial presidency," we reported in 1992, "the man who wrote the legal rationale for the Gulf War, the Panama invasion, and the officially sanctioned kidnapping of foreign nationals abroad"

by FRANK SNEPP
The Village Voice, APRIL 18, 2019



The Village Voice, October 27, 1992

“Attorney General William Barr is the Best Reason to Vote for Clinton”

Excerpt....

SON OF THE CIA

It was 21 years ago, in 1971, that I first encountered William Barr. Both of us were working for the CIA at the time, he as a novice China analyst, I as a member of the agency’s Vietnam task force. Jovial and un­assuming, he took his cues easily from an overly politicized office chief. It was a to­ken of things to come.

Three years before, we had brushed shoulders unknowingly on Columbia Uni­versity’s roiling campus. Both of us were on the other side of the barricades as antiwar demonstrations there blasted our genera­tion into a decade of rage. Barr, a conserva­tive student spokesman, preached tough­ness to the university administration, of which his father, then dean of the engineer­ing faculty, was a leading light. Years later, this same damn-the-torpedoes zeal would commend Barr to his ultimate father figure, George Bush. When Cuban refugees penned up at an Alabama prison rioted and took hostages in the summer of 1991, depu­ty attorney general Barr ordered the place stormed. Soon afterward, Bush tapped him for the attorney general slot itself.

Barr first met Bush in the CIA. In 1976, having shifted to the agency’s legislative office, he helped write the pap sheets that director Bush used to fend off the Pike and Church committees, the first real embodiments of Congressional oversight of the CIA. Intimates say the experience was for­mative for Barr, turning him into an impla­cable enemy of congressional intrusions on executive prerogative.

“The most radical period I had probably was when I was sort of a moderate Republi­can,” he later acknowledged. Sure enough, Barr stayed safe within conservative clutch­es even after leaving the agency in 1977. Armed with a night-school law diploma, he asked for — and got — Bush’s backing for a clerkship appointment to Malcolm Wilkey of the Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Years later, as attorney general, Barr would name Wilkey to investigate the House Banking scandal. Wilkey repayed the favor with a wrenchingly partisan in­quiry. Feeding the press overheated charges of wrongdoing, he scored points off the Democratic Congress just as the adminis­tration itself was being pilloried for its failed economics.

Source...

https://www.villagevoice.com/2019/04/18/attorney-general-william-barr-is-the-best-reason-to-vote-for-clinton/

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Epstein was head of a global pedophile trafficking ring that “serviced” the planet’s plutocratic elite.

“No man. No problem.”

Kid Berwyn

(14,953 posts)
36. Lots of brave draft dodgers did.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:44 PM
Aug 2019


Donald Bonespurs, for two. Mitt Romney, for another, was happy to see others go to fight in somebody else’s civil war and die. Just like Barr, they haven’t acted like they spent any time reflecting on their hypocrisy.
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