"Calm" and "reasonable" don't always go together. I submit that it is unreasonable to maintain

[Atticus]

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a calm, cool and collected attitude in the face of the daily OUTRAGES---I wish there was a stronger word---Trump and company spit in our faces.

We are in desperate need of PASSION; the strong visceral emotion that will not allow one to refer to "the president" when "that worthless piece of shit" is so much more accurate and appropriate.

Passion says "let the chips fall where they may".

Passion says "I don't give a big brown rat's ass what 'Trump's base thinks!"

Passion understands---intuitively---that Occam's Razor answers most questions instantly and accurately.

Passion ACTS.

[rzemanfl]

1. K&R. Stuffing our outrage and anger

is unhealthy, counter intuitive and counterproductive. Rage will solve this problem, politeness and business as usual will walk us down the road to fascism.

[Locrian]

2. recommended

There is way too much wishing for a "return" to the "time before trump"... which GAVE us trump.
We need a way forward, and that needs passion and conviction.

[Newest Reality]

3. Maybe it is healthy

To acknowledge the emotions that are invoked/provoked and observe them without denial.

Then, take that raw energy and channel it into whatever you consider to be the best way to bring it into action. Turning anger, rage and passion into determination and motivated behaviors is powerful. With attention, one can do that while also remaining calmer and more peaceful in the process which leads to more sound, rational and directed involvement. Mental Judo.

Angry? Learn more about what underpins the various aspects of this debacle. Feeling rage? In what ways can that rage be transformed into a non-violent, pro-active stream of right effort? Share what you know. Speak out, of course. Not yielding to our most negative and destructive tendencies is actually a part of a winning strategy and by no means implies a pessimistic, cynical resignation. In fact, it brings greater clarity and power that can be applied to our every response along the way.

Of course, hatred, when impulsive or compulsive has the tendency to turn us into that which we hate the most only because of the focus of our attention and the amount of emotions we apply to that. An adversary is an adversary. We can bemoan and rile against that, or realize they are part of any struggle or motivation to change. Our adversary may hate us, but we can honor them for being a part of the duality of the two sides and by doing that we remain honorable, noble and beneficial in the process.

Cooler heads, it is said, prevail.

[MuseRider]

4. Passion gets usually uninterested people to the polls.

That is one big reason Trump's people will vote. He fires them up.

We discuss, talk it over etc. Those are fine things AND the way it ought to be imo but it appears these days you have to give people a passion to vote. There is a whole lot of depression out there and a lot of "nobody cares so why bother". Add that to long lines, disinformation, not being able to get out of work in time or long drives. It has become harder to vote we must fill those points of "reasonable" disinterest with a damned good reason to make the effort.

[Newest Reality]

5. I take issue with the current understanding...

of Occam's Razor and how it is being used rhetorically in common parlance.

I think it is best to rethink that in light of the various flaws and problems of using it willy-nilly.

https://scienceblogs.com/developingintelligence/2007/05/14/why-the-simplest-theory-is-alm