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Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 10:55 AM Aug 2012

There is no bump.

Not from selecting Ryan to be his running mate.
Nor from the convention.

Romney didn't lower his unfavorable rating at all.
America still doesn't like him.
Pandering to disaffected liberals who voted for President Obama in 2008 was scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

And, on top of all that . . . Romney still has to release his income tax returns.

As Colonel Klink would say,"Disssssmissssed!"

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There is no bump. (Original Post) Major Hogwash Aug 2012 OP
Maybe in a couple of days when it all sinks in... Kalidurga Aug 2012 #1
The chair got a bump. Solly Mack Aug 2012 #2
The chair would make a better president than Onceuponalife Sep 2012 #18
True. Solly Mack Sep 2012 #19
While I hope this is true... B2G Aug 2012 #3
when will the next batch of polls come out? Coexist Aug 2012 #4
The polling average contradicts you Ashleyshubby Aug 2012 #5
Not really. speedoo Aug 2012 #8
So Obama's decrease was driven by an unknown? Ashleyshubby Sep 2012 #12
Come on, rAssMussen has been an outlier for ever uponit7771 Aug 2012 #9
I didn't mention Rasmussen Ashleyshubby Sep 2012 #13
Gee, you're wrong. Major Hogwash Sep 2012 #21
We'll know for sure by Tuesday. dawg Aug 2012 #6
It's too early to tell. Mitt just gave his speech last nite, as did the chair. jillan Aug 2012 #7
Reaching disaffected Obama voters could still work rocktivity Aug 2012 #10
I hadn't thought of that possibility. Major Hogwash Sep 2012 #22
k&r... spanone Aug 2012 #11
If you look at Natre Silvers blog edhopper Sep 2012 #14
Still looking for a Romney bumper sticker, B Calm Sep 2012 #15
Yep. Still asking: where are those tax returns, Mitt? ananda Sep 2012 #16
And his "running" mate is a pathological liar. About running, about Lex Sep 2012 #17
didnt the only bump come when polls switched from most likely to vote, to registered voter which seabeyond Sep 2012 #20
Rasmussen said he prefers to use the "likely to vote" variable rather than the registered variable. Major Hogwash Sep 2012 #23

speedoo

(11,229 posts)
8. Not really.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:34 AM
Aug 2012

First, the Ryan pick was 18 days ago and that is a lot of time. Other things have happened, including their convention.. You'd have to do a more careful analysis to detect any bump from ether event. I'm satisfied with Nate Silver's analysis that there was a minimal bump (maybe 1%) from the Ryan choice and I will accept whatever he says re. Their convention, but I will be surprised if it's anything substantial.

Meanwhile there has been a lot of good news from the battleground state polls since the Ryan choice and overall Silver has Obama in better shape since then.

 

Ashleyshubby

(81 posts)
12. So Obama's decrease was driven by an unknown?
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:44 AM
Sep 2012

What happened between Ryan's pick and the Convention that you hypothesize was responsible for the bump?

 

Ashleyshubby

(81 posts)
13. I didn't mention Rasmussen
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:47 AM
Sep 2012

Did I? And do you have proof that excluding Rasmussen has any effect in the polling average?

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
21. Gee, you're wrong.
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 12:25 AM
Sep 2012

I don't mean to argue with you about it.
I'm a professional procrastinator.
I know what I'm talking about.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
6. We'll know for sure by Tuesday.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:00 AM
Aug 2012

If Nate Silver's now cast doesn't have Romney in the lead by Tuesday, it'll take something really special to give him any chance at all in November.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
22. I hadn't thought of that possibility.
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 12:28 AM
Sep 2012

That could turn out to be the mystery variable in this whole election.
I might have to reconsider the effects of that on the race now.

edhopper

(33,589 posts)
14. If you look at Natre Silvers blog
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:55 AM
Sep 2012

And look at the rolling popular vote chart on the right, you will see there has been no real movement in the numbers.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/author/nate-silver/

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
20. didnt the only bump come when polls switched from most likely to vote, to registered voter which
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:26 AM
Sep 2012

tends to repug? i heard that about a week ago

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
23. Rasmussen said he prefers to use the "likely to vote" variable rather than the registered variable.
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 12:37 AM
Sep 2012

Because he was really, really secretly hoping that Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, Georgia, and Florida could suppress the Democratic vote in those states.

Rasmussen is a regular contributor on Faux Snooze.
His point was that registered voters don't always get excited enough to want to go vote.
So, he decided a few years ago to only count those registered voters he considered were also "likely to vote".
But, I don't know how he determines that.
I'm voting by mail this year so I can cast my vote as early as possible in this year's election.



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