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hatrack

(59,587 posts)
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 09:37 PM Aug 2019

The Next Recession Will Destroy Milennials - Citylab

The trade war is dragging on. The yield curve is inverting. Investors are fleeing to safety. Global growth is slowing. The stock market is dipping. The Millennials are screwed. Recessions are never good for anyone. A sputtering economy means miserable financial, emotional, and physical-health consequences for everyone from infants to retirees. But the next one—if it happens, when it starts happening—stands to hit this much-maligned generation particularly hard. For adults between the ages of 22 and 38, after all, the last recession never really ended.

Millennials got bodied in the downturn, have struggled in the recovery, and are now left more vulnerable than other, older age cohorts. As they pitch toward middle age, they are failing to make it to the middle class, and are likely to be the first generation in modern economic history to end up worse off than their parents. The next downturn might make sure of it, stalling their careers and sucking away their wages right as the Millennials enter their prime earning years.

It was the last downturn—the once-a-century Great Recession—that set them on this doddering economic course. The Millennials graduated into the worst jobs market in 80 years. That did not just mean a few years of high unemployment, or a couple years living in their parents’ basements. It meant a full decade of lost wages. The generation unlucky enough to enter the labor market in a recession suffers “significant” earnings losses that take years and years to rebound, studies show, something that hard data now back up. As of 2014, Millennial men were earning no more than Gen X men were when they were the same age, and 10 percent less than Baby Boomers—despite the economy being far bigger and the country far richer. Millennial women were earning less than Gen X women.

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The toxic combination of lower earnings and higher student-loan balances—combined with tight credit in the recovery years—has led to Millennials getting shut out of the housing market, and thus losing a seminal way to build wealth. The generation’s homeownership rate is a full 8 percentage points lower than that of the Gen Xers or the Baby Boomers when they were the same age; the median age of home-buyers has risen all the way to 46, the oldest it has been since the National Association of Realtors started keeping records four decades ago. As a result, Millennials have not benefited from the dramatic rebound in housing prices that has occurred since the financial collapse and the foreclosure crisis. Millennials have also been forced to shell out hundreds of billions of dollars in rent as housing costs have skyrocketed in many urban areas. This represents a large generational transfer of wealth from the young to the old. Boomers own the houses and bar municipalities from building more of them, thus benefiting from rising prices and soaking up endless rent checks forked over by younger and poorer families.

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https://www.citylab.com/life/2019/08/next-recession-will-destroy-millennials/596836/

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customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
1. Well, the baby boomers had their tough times, too
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 09:42 PM
Aug 2019

I had only been working for about three and a half years when the big recession of 1980 hit. I went from having a monthly salary that doubled from 1976 to 1979, only to be standing in a government cheese line. And all this while Social Security taxes were set to rise in the early 80's.

How did we cope? We just scaled back what we thought we "needed", and made less go further. Today's millennials, etc. will just have to learn those old lessons. Ask your baby boomer folks for advice.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
3. I don't think we have squat to offer in terms of wisdom on the housing front
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 09:55 PM
Aug 2019

Other than, I have a spare bedroom, move in.

In the early 80s you could still score a rent stabilized apartment in NYC for well under $500 a month. Split it two ways, find a way to make $250/$300 a week and you could have a grand old time. That same apartment goes for at least $2,800 a month now. Incomes might be higher but not by a factor of five. Plus you didn’t need to spend $150-$200 on magic phones and other technological necessities.

NY is extreme but the same pattern holds true in cities and metro areas around the country where most people live.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
5. Here's my advice on that
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 10:51 PM
Aug 2019

Wait until the current bubble pops. I worked in title insurance in WA state from 1976 to 2005, and I've seen the frenzy that builds up as the sharpies are looking to get people on the hook. When the bubble pops, and you've got money saved up for a down payment, then you're in the driver's seat.

I'm with you on the expensive toys, make a smartphone last for four or five years, minimum before replacing it.

Terry_M

(745 posts)
4. I think you're missing part of the point
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 09:56 PM
Aug 2019

going into whatever happens next, millenials are ALREADY behind gen X / baby boomers of the same age when they were the same age when it comes to inflation adjusted wages and home ownership. So this will be harder on them.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
6. What's hard
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 10:52 PM
Aug 2019

is having to learn to live within one's income, if you've never really done it before. It's worse if your parents were bad examples.

a kennedy

(29,673 posts)
9. and I think of the days, you know a few years before Barack Obama became President......
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 11:17 PM
Aug 2019

when the worst home mortgage crisis of seedy home loan officers and bank clerks offered home loans to people who could not possibly afford the loans these horrible “lenders” offered them.. They knew these loans were way more then they could afford, and when they couldn’t keep up to the abominable monthly payments.....oh right a loan crisis.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
12. Yes, I'm channeling dead British prime ministers
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 02:20 AM
Aug 2019

Maybe you're enticed by Andrew Yang's free money for everyone deal. Until that gets here, we all have to figure out how to make it through tough times now and then. Sock it away in the good years, so that you have it during the bad ones, or just wait for free money from the sky.

Celerity

(43,408 posts)
11. Gen Z might be even worse off. I'm right on the borderline of both, depending on where you draw the
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 11:48 PM
Aug 2019

the boundary line, which I place at 1995 for the last birth year of the Millennial gen, but some now are saying 1996. I relate more to the last half of the Millennials I know than to the Gen Zers I know (my real world social set is probably 60/40 leaning toward Mills v Zers.) Some (NOT all) of the first half Millennials I know (1981 to say 1987/88 born) are some of the most bitter, jaded people I know. They went through some massive systemic changes/disasters (dot com crash, 9-11, Afghan/Iraq wars, then the 2007-9 financial crash, Libya/
Syria wars (which had much worse impacts here in the UK and EU than they did in the US), etc etc) in their formulative teen to young 20-something adult years. Now are getting spanked with Rump and Brexit and the rise again of the Euro RW as they do their tours of their 30's.

doc03

(35,346 posts)
2. It will destroy more than them. When a recession hits we have no tools to dig out.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 09:52 PM
Aug 2019

The interest rates are practically nothing so how can they stimulate the economy by lowering rates. We have mountains of debt
how can you increase spending to stimulate the economy without bankrupting the country. If the Bush tax cuts would have been rescinded we could have balanced the budget now we are in big trouble. We will have to have negative interest to dig our way out.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
7. Somehow I have a lot of trouble taking such blanket statements seriously.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 11:03 PM
Aug 2019

The entire generation of millennials? Really?

Initech

(100,080 posts)
8. Forget the second Civil War. The Second Great Depression is going to do far more damage.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 11:07 PM
Aug 2019

And unlike the first Great Depression, people will be too distracted with their phones and Fortnite to care.

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