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Now we know ... Trump's tax returns contain more Russian names than Leo Tolstoy's War and Peace (Original Post) Snake Plissken Aug 2019 OP
" Trump's tax returns contain Russian names" mitch96 Aug 2019 #1
But tax returns don't include copies of your loan applications. (n/t) thesquanderer Aug 2019 #16
True, but loan documents include copies of your tax returns Merlot Aug 2019 #26
Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Roland99 Aug 2019 #31
They do? I've taken out many loans in the past, and never had to submit hughee99 Aug 2019 #39
He's literally a Russian whore dalton99a Aug 2019 #2
Yup...nt 2naSalit Aug 2019 #3
Trump, "I had nothing to do with Russia." Botany Aug 2019 #4
+1. Nothing at all. dalton99a Aug 2019 #9
Too bad his idiot sons already busted him. smirkymonkey Aug 2019 #18
272 Proven contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia Botany Aug 2019 #20
With all this information, and the clearly shady relationship between Trump smirkymonkey Aug 2019 #24
Russia has made sure to corrupt and or get over on a number of American institutions and .. Botany Aug 2019 #25
Yep. They gave away the game a long time ago. calimary Aug 2019 #23
They will be, and they will REFUSE to show up. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2019 #33
A Russian whore and a Slovenian sex worker walk into the White House...... Farmer-Rick Aug 2019 #5
You are making that up....oh wait..maybe not. Got to think about that for a while...nt Stuart G Aug 2019 #7
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2019 #37
Be Best! NT jayschool2013 Aug 2019 #14
I am 1/4 Slovenian and I ain't no whore. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2019 #34
What a fabulous Title malaise Aug 2019 #6
I still dont understand why ANYONES name would be in a tax return. oldsoftie Aug 2019 #8
I don't think they're on the tax returns, theyre pnwest Aug 2019 #11
Good question Farmer-Rick Aug 2019 #13
Do you honestly think all of the money Trump borrowed came from banks? Snake Plissken Aug 2019 #22
Banks or people, their names still wouldnt be on his tax returns. They WOULD be elsewhere oldsoftie Aug 2019 #36
This would be great information IF we can get proof. blueinredohio Aug 2019 #10
This is the guy who doesn't know any Russians, right? bucolic_frolic Aug 2019 #12
Sorry... Roy Rolling Aug 2019 #15
He should have, "Russian Asset" stamped on his forehead. liberalmuse Aug 2019 #17
It hasn't been confirmed yet, but strongly hinted FakeNoose Aug 2019 #19
Interesting... and informative, thx for posting Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #28
More likely "The Idiot." kairos12 Aug 2019 #21
But, if any Oligarchs ever forgave a loan it became INCOME Captain Zero Aug 2019 #29
But are the tax returns that he gave to banks the same ones he gave to the IRS? LiberalArkie Aug 2019 #27
I'm pretty sure that's why they want them! Uben Aug 2019 #30
What has been the Orange Douche's reply to all this? NoMoreRepugs Aug 2019 #32
Trump is AFRAID of the power the Putin has over him.... ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2019 #35
trump is pissed Gothmog Aug 2019 #38

mitch96

(13,912 posts)
1. " Trump's tax returns contain Russian names"
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:12 AM
Aug 2019

Saw this info on Lawrence O's program.. .Now it makes cense why der tRumpenfuhrer does not want his returns out. Russian oligarchs co signing his Deutsche bank loans.. No other banks would touch him...
Talk about leverage.. These oligarchs are Putins buddies so it would prove he is in their pockets and will do their bidding. FOLLOW THE MONEY....
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hughee99

(16,113 posts)
39. They do? I've taken out many loans in the past, and never had to submit
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 01:00 AM
Aug 2019

A copy of my tax returns with them.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
18. Too bad his idiot sons already busted him.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:24 AM
Aug 2019

Why aren't they being hauled in for questioning?

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Botany

(70,516 posts)
20. 272 Proven contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:31 AM
Aug 2019

TRUMP’S RUSSIA COVER-UP BY THE NUMBERS – 272 CONTACTS WITH RUSSIA-LINKED OPERATIVES

https://themoscowproject.org/explainers/trumps-russia-cover-up-by-the-numbers-70-contacts-with-russia-linked-operatives/

Russia has been working the long game w/Trump and the GOP for years.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
24. With all this information, and the clearly shady relationship between Trump
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:50 AM
Aug 2019

and Putin, I cannot understand how he has not already been indicted. Is there no rule of law in this country any longer?

Botany

(70,516 posts)
25. Russia has made sure to corrupt and or get over on a number of American institutions and ..
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:04 AM
Aug 2019

... persons so if we move on Trump then many others will try to block it because their ox
will be gored too. In 2016 Russia used the NRA to funnel millions into republican senate
campaigns, McConnell is own the hook for millions, Ryan knew about Trump and Russia and
stayed quite, the Mueller Report mentioned Sean Hannity, look @ Deutsche Bank Justice
Kennedy, Kennedy's son, and Kavanaugh, and now we have A.G. Bill Barr who is out and
out working as Donald Trump's "consiglieri."

This "thing" is so big you really can't get your head around it but always remember this was the
biggest criminal attack on the United States and our democracies in history.

***************

Always remember that Pence was picked to be V.P. by Manafort aka Russia

https://www.newsweek.com/mike-pence-was-handpicked-paul-manafort-696412

The corruption and Russian influence into the Trump/GOP/Election structures is massive.

calimary

(81,313 posts)
23. Yep. They gave away the game a long time ago.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:48 AM
Aug 2019

Unfortunately, nobody was paying attention.

Awash in Russian money. Gee, what could possibly go wrong?

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
33. They will be, and they will REFUSE to show up.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:57 AM
Aug 2019

Because like their CRIMINAL father, these assholes believe the law does not apply to them.

oldsoftie

(12,555 posts)
8. I still dont understand why ANYONES name would be in a tax return.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:41 AM
Aug 2019

Tax returns show profit/loss/interest paid/etc on each individual property or business. It doesnt show WHO you paid the interest to. Or WHO you paid for services to. They are simply lines filled in with numbers. It WOULD show who you received income FROM. Trump could have a dozen loans from Russians and it would show as an interest expense without naming the bank or person owed. UNLESS you're audited.
I am not an accountant & only use my own returns, and others I'm involved with, as comparison.

Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
13. Good question
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:58 AM
Aug 2019

When I could write off some of my mortgage interest, I had to include a statement from my bank.

But that would not be on the tax form itself. And the bank statement went to my accountant.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
22. Do you honestly think all of the money Trump borrowed came from banks?
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:36 AM
Aug 2019

I have zero doubt that most it came in the form of partnerships giving these Russian mobsters a piece of the business in exchange for funding it

They had money they desperately needed to launder and Trump was in desperate need of money to fund his businesses, all you have to do is peel back the onion.

oldsoftie

(12,555 posts)
36. Banks or people, their names still wouldnt be on his tax returns. They WOULD be elsewhere
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 01:26 PM
Aug 2019

Numbers fill the lines, not names. Interest paid, costs, etc. It wouldnt show names, and knowing trump even if they DID theres no way he'd put Russian mobsters on an IRS tax form.
I've always thought that the reason trump hides his returns is not WHO is in them, but that they show him to be making a LOT less money than what he wants his followers to believe. That "mr big shot" image is SO damn important to him.

And yes, I definitely want to see them!

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
10. This would be great information IF we can get proof.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:43 AM
Aug 2019

I'm hoping and praying a judge makes them turn them over to congress.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
17. He should have, "Russian Asset" stamped on his forehead.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:24 AM
Aug 2019

Putin owns him and a good chunk of the GOP to boot. I guess it’s not hard to buy people who worship money so much they’d sell their country for a few rubles.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
19. It hasn't been confirmed yet, but strongly hinted
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:29 AM
Aug 2019

Raw Story: Russian oligarch bombshell would ‘make impeachment proceedings absolutely inevitable’: NBC analyst
(link) https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/russian-oligarch-bombshell-would-make-impeachment-proceedings-absolutely-inevitable-nbc-analyst/

Fast-tracked impeachment hearings will occur this fall if the bombshell report is true that President Donald Trump had loans with Deutsche Bank co-signed by Russian oligarchs close to Vladimir Putin.

“The source close to Deutsche Bank says that the co-signers of Donald Trump’s Deutsche Bank loans are Russian billionaires close to Vladimir Putin,” MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell reported Tuesday.

For analysis, the host interviewed NBC News national affairs analyst John Heilemann.

“Got to stress ‘if true,’ but if true, the reporting that you have your source, it’s the skeleton key, right, that opens -— picks the lock on so many fundamental mysteries of the Trump era, the ones we thought Robert Mueller was going to answer and we now know the reason that Robert Mueller didn’t answer them, all the connections, the nexus with Russia on a million levels, political, financial, security, everything else, criminal potentially, was because he was basically told he couldn’t look at this stuff,” Heilemann explained. “This was the stuff he wasn’t allowed to go for. He couldn’t go looking for the skeleton key.”


- more at link -



Captain Zero

(6,810 posts)
29. But, if any Oligarchs ever forgave a loan it became INCOME
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:23 AM
Aug 2019

If he reported the loan forgiveness, it would need to be listed as income on his tax return. And the bank records would have to show which co-signer made good or defaulted on the loan. And wouldn't there be a bank report of the income from a forgiven loan to the IRS ? LOTS of trip wires in the reporting on this money.

Uben

(7,719 posts)
30. I'm pretty sure that's why they want them!
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:29 AM
Aug 2019

They will cross check and see if he committed fraud. I'd be willing to bet that Trump still has a negative net worth.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
35. Trump is AFRAID of the power the Putin has over him....
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:05 AM
Aug 2019

When Russian Oligarchs are crossed or crawfished, they do not get even, they go after the families of the one who owes them money. They start with the pets, then they move up to the children, stating with the youngest to the eldest one; then on up the line. All while the one who owes the money watches.

I have read several books on the Russian Mafia and the Oligarchs they usually work under as enforcement. These guys make the Italian and Asian mafia/triads look like Boy Scouts.

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