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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNow we know ... Trump's tax returns contain more Russian names than Leo Tolstoy's War and Peace
So much for all this talk about 'The Swamp' Trump is a one man waddling Swamp.
mitch96
(13,912 posts)Saw this info on Lawrence O's program.. .Now it makes cense why der tRumpenfuhrer does not want his returns out. Russian oligarchs co signing his Deutsche bank loans.. No other banks would touch him...
Talk about leverage.. These oligarchs are Putins buddies so it would prove he is in their pockets and will do their bidding. FOLLOW THE MONEY....
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thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)Merlot
(9,696 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)hughee99
(16,113 posts)A copy of my tax returns with them.
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)wholly owned and controlled by the Russians
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)Botany
(70,516 posts)dalton99a
(81,515 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Why aren't they being hauled in for questioning?
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Botany
(70,516 posts)TRUMPS RUSSIA COVER-UP BY THE NUMBERS 272 CONTACTS WITH RUSSIA-LINKED OPERATIVES
https://themoscowproject.org/explainers/trumps-russia-cover-up-by-the-numbers-70-contacts-with-russia-linked-operatives/
Russia has been working the long game w/Trump and the GOP for years.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)and Putin, I cannot understand how he has not already been indicted. Is there no rule of law in this country any longer?
Botany
(70,516 posts)... persons so if we move on Trump then many others will try to block it because their ox
will be gored too. In 2016 Russia used the NRA to funnel millions into republican senate
campaigns, McConnell is own the hook for millions, Ryan knew about Trump and Russia and
stayed quite, the Mueller Report mentioned Sean Hannity, look @ Deutsche Bank Justice
Kennedy, Kennedy's son, and Kavanaugh, and now we have A.G. Bill Barr who is out and
out working as Donald Trump's "consiglieri."
This "thing" is so big you really can't get your head around it but always remember this was the
biggest criminal attack on the United States and our democracies in history.
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Always remember that Pence was picked to be V.P. by Manafort aka Russia
https://www.newsweek.com/mike-pence-was-handpicked-paul-manafort-696412
The corruption and Russian influence into the Trump/GOP/Election structures is massive.
calimary
(81,313 posts)Unfortunately, nobody was paying attention.
Awash in Russian money. Gee, what could possibly go wrong?
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)Because like their CRIMINAL father, these assholes believe the law does not apply to them.
Farmer-Rick
(10,185 posts)Stuart G
(38,434 posts)jayschool2013
(2,312 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)Nor do I look like the one in question.
malaise
(269,054 posts)oldsoftie
(12,555 posts)Tax returns show profit/loss/interest paid/etc on each individual property or business. It doesnt show WHO you paid the interest to. Or WHO you paid for services to. They are simply lines filled in with numbers. It WOULD show who you received income FROM. Trump could have a dozen loans from Russians and it would show as an interest expense without naming the bank or person owed. UNLESS you're audited.
I am not an accountant & only use my own returns, and others I'm involved with, as comparison.
pnwest
(3,266 posts)on the loan documents also subpoenaed.
Farmer-Rick
(10,185 posts)When I could write off some of my mortgage interest, I had to include a statement from my bank.
But that would not be on the tax form itself. And the bank statement went to my accountant.
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)I have zero doubt that most it came in the form of partnerships giving these Russian mobsters a piece of the business in exchange for funding it
They had money they desperately needed to launder and Trump was in desperate need of money to fund his businesses, all you have to do is peel back the onion.
oldsoftie
(12,555 posts)Numbers fill the lines, not names. Interest paid, costs, etc. It wouldnt show names, and knowing trump even if they DID theres no way he'd put Russian mobsters on an IRS tax form.
I've always thought that the reason trump hides his returns is not WHO is in them, but that they show him to be making a LOT less money than what he wants his followers to believe. That "mr big shot" image is SO damn important to him.
And yes, I definitely want to see them!
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)I'm hoping and praying a judge makes them turn them over to congress.
bucolic_frolic
(43,181 posts)Roy Rolling
(6,917 posts)You know Im gonna have to make a meme out of this post.
Well done, SP, well done.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)Putin owns him and a good chunk of the GOP to boot. I guess its not hard to buy people who worship money so much theyd sell their country for a few rubles.
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)Raw Story: Russian oligarch bombshell would make impeachment proceedings absolutely inevitable: NBC analyst
(link) https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/russian-oligarch-bombshell-would-make-impeachment-proceedings-absolutely-inevitable-nbc-analyst/
The source close to Deutsche Bank says that the co-signers of Donald Trumps Deutsche Bank loans are Russian billionaires close to Vladimir Putin, MSNBCs Lawrence ODonnell reported Tuesday.
For analysis, the host interviewed NBC News national affairs analyst John Heilemann.
Got to stress if true, but if true, the reporting that you have your source, its the skeleton key, right, that opens - picks the lock on so many fundamental mysteries of the Trump era, the ones we thought Robert Mueller was going to answer and we now know the reason that Robert Mueller didnt answer them, all the connections, the nexus with Russia on a million levels, political, financial, security, everything else, criminal potentially, was because he was basically told he couldnt look at this stuff, Heilemann explained. This was the stuff he wasnt allowed to go for. He couldnt go looking for the skeleton key.
- more at link -
Thekaspervote
(32,778 posts)kairos12
(12,862 posts)Captain Zero
(6,810 posts)If he reported the loan forgiveness, it would need to be listed as income on his tax return. And the bank records would have to show which co-signer made good or defaulted on the loan. And wouldn't there be a bank report of the income from a forgiven loan to the IRS ? LOTS of trip wires in the reporting on this money.
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)Uben
(7,719 posts)They will cross check and see if he committed fraud. I'd be willing to bet that Trump still has a negative net worth.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,435 posts)I haven't seen anything as of yet.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)When Russian Oligarchs are crossed or crawfished, they do not get even, they go after the families of the one who owes them money. They start with the pets, then they move up to the children, stating with the youngest to the eldest one; then on up the line. All while the one who owes the money watches.
I have read several books on the Russian Mafia and the Oligarchs they usually work under as enforcement. These guys make the Italian and Asian mafia/triads look like Boy Scouts.