Trump officials say children of US service members overseas will not get automatic citizenship

[left-of-center2012]

The Trump administration said Wednesday that the children of U.S. military members and government employees working overseas will no longer automatically be considered United States citizens.

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) issued a policy on Wednesday rescinding previous guidance stating that children of U.S. service members and other government officials abroad are considered “residing in the United States” and automatically given citizenship under a section of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).

The new policy guidance states that USCIS “no longer considers children of U.S. government employees and U.S. armed forces members residing outside the United States as ‘residing in the United States’ for purposes of acquiring citizenship under INA 320.”

The guidance states that "U.S. citizen parents who are residing outside the United States with children who are not U.S. citizens should apply for U.S. citizenship on behalf of their children under INA 322, and must complete the process before the child’s 18th birthday."

The new policy will take effect Oct. 29, according to the USCIS notice.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/459190-trump-officials-say-children-of-us-service-members-overseas-will-not

[Proud Liberal Dem]

1. Question

Aren't overseas bases considered "American soil"?

[Newest Reality]

4. No,

Only US Embassies are.

[cos dem]

5. In my experience, it varies

I think embassies by convention are. But military deployments are generally at a host facility. However, Ramstein in Germany (for example) appears to be "American". Possibly a consequence of who won the war.

Its usually more politically palatable to be a guest of the host country, vs seen as an occupier.

[Eliot Rosewater]

2. Civil unrest is necessary

[left-of-center2012]

3. More from another source

Trump Admin Wants to Limit U.S. Citizenship for Kids Born Abroad

... if the child’s parents only became citizens after their child was born, parents will be required to apply on their kids’ behalf before they reach age 18 in order to obtain citizenship—and will usually be required to have obtained five years’ residence in the United States beforehand. Under the new policy, their time serving the U.S. government won’t count towards that time.

“The policy change explains that we will not consider children who live abroad with their parents to be residing in the United States even if their parents are U.S. government employees or U.S. service members stationed outside of the United States,” USCIS spokesperson Meredith Parker told Task & Purpose. “As a result, these children will no longer be considered to have acquired citizenship automatically.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-admin-wants-limit-u-211711089.html

[kurtcagle]

6. Should piss off more than a few soldiers and sailors

My father was in the Air Force in Spain when my brother was born in Spain. By this ruling, my brother would not be a US citizen today. Considering he's a Master Sergeant in the Army at this point, that could have been a big deal. I suspect this may very well be a dealbreaker for a great number of servicemen and women today.

[woodsprite]

7. Wouldn't that have been McCain's case as well?

He was born at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone.

[Voltaire2]

8. Hair Shitler's final days in the bunker

were filled with insane rants followed by fits of dark suicidal depression.