It's Hard To Separate An Artist From His Or Politics

[DemocratSinceBirth]

I like Andy Garcia's , Robert Duval's and Clint Eastwood's work.


Their politics, not so much...

[flamingdem]

1. Andy Garcia is a crappy director

Have you seen his right wing movies about Cuba?

For Love or Country. So bad. He tried to get funding for a new movie about Hemingway but even with Anthony Hopkins attached he had to come up with the funds himself. Right wing HACK

I like all three as actors..

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. He's Very Good In The Untouchables, Internal Affairs, and the Oceans Franchise

And Godfather lll

He's not one of the lesser Baldwins.

[kelly1mm]

3. Hate to go "Godwin's Law" so fast, but Leni Riefenstahl's film Triumph of the will

is probably the best example of this. Cinematography-wise (is that a word??) it was/is a masterpiece, a real example of the art of film. But it is about the 1934 Nazi conference and a blatant propaganda film. While Leni's personal commitment to the Nazi cause is debatable, there is no real debate that her art assisted them in their cause.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. The Movies Duval And Garcia Do Don't Really Have A Right Wing Theme

Except Garcia's paean to Cuba.

[kelly1mm]

7. Agreed. My point was that even right wing themed art can sometimes have artistic merit. Another

film example would be Birth of a Nation. WAY reactionary/right wing/racist, but a technical/artistic triumph.

[Tom Ripley]

13. That's why I have a framed autograph of Griffith's hanging on my wall

BoaN is indeed reactionary/right wing/ racist/ klan-loving propaganda, but it is an artistic triumph.
Woodrow Wilson was dead wrong; it was not "history written in lightning", but art written in lightning.

[BOG PERSON]

4. i can think of a few excellent right-wing artists

and i'm willing to look past it if the work is good enough. but if the work isn't good enough, crappy politics is unforgivable.

same applies for the more "right-on" artists. correct politics can never justify bad art.

[Tom Ripley]

6. I like the work of Pound, Eliot, Riefenstahl, Duvall, Celine, Mamet and other jerks with

reprehensible political views

[BOG PERSON]

9. why was TS Eliot bad?

[Tom Ripley]

11. While not in Pound's league, he was also a racist and anti-semite

Despite that, he is still the finest poet in the English language.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

8. Unless it's overwhelming, I usually can forgive it.

I mean, you do have Steven Baldwin and Victoria Jackson, but if you are looking for those two people for genuine talent, you are a sad, sad person.

But Duval, Eastwood, Garcia, Heaton, Voight, Woods, etc.--I can typically watch a movie or TV show with them in it and divorce my political ideology and enjoy it. Unless it's a bad show or movie, that is.

The only conservative "celebrity" who truly turns my stomach and who I refuse to watch is Donald Trump.

[randome]

10. Ray Bradbury.

[RebelOne]

12. I have always been a fan of his writing, no matter his political leaning. n/t