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UpInArms

(51,285 posts)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 08:09 AM Aug 2019

US spies say Trump's G7 performance suggests he's either a 'Russian asset' or a 'useful idiot' for P

"It's hard to see the bar anymore since it's been pushed so far down the last few years, but President Trump's behavior over the weekend was a new low."

That was the assessment an FBI agent who works in counterintelligence gave Insider of President Donald Trump's performance at this year's G7 summit in Biarritz, France. The agent requested anonymity because they feared that speaking publicly on the matter would jeopardize their job.

Trump's attendance at the G7 summit was peppered with controversy, but none was more notable than his fervent defense of Russia's military and cyber aggression around the world, and its violation of international law in Ukraine.

Trump repeatedly refused to hold Russia accountable for annexing Crimea in 2014, blamed former President Barack Obama for Russia's move to annex it, expressed sympathy for Russian President Vladimir Putin, and castigated other G7 members for not giving the country a seat at the table.

https://amp.businessinsider.com/spies-react-trump-g7-summit-russian-asset-2019-8

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US spies say Trump's G7 performance suggests he's either a 'Russian asset' or a 'useful idiot' for P (Original Post) UpInArms Aug 2019 OP
...as the Republicans show a moue of distaste then back him at every turn. JHB Aug 2019 #1
R stands for Russia. dalton99a Aug 2019 #2
We need to investigate the oranges of why people think he's easy on Russia elias7 Aug 2019 #3
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2019 #8
More every day duforsure Aug 2019 #4
Useful idiot. Turbineguy Aug 2019 #5
Wasn't Helsinki enough? exboyfil Aug 2019 #6
Or him standing in front of microphones and cameras and calling on Russia Cosmocat Aug 2019 #9
👆🏼 UpInArms Aug 2019 #11
Comrade Donald showed his true colors multiple times already Moostache Aug 2019 #7
Ain't it the truth?! kentuck Aug 2019 #10
Both, imho. MontanaMama Aug 2019 #12
I'll just go with "asshat and useless idiot" (n/t) Moostache Aug 2019 #21
Can't Trump be Both-a Useful Idiot Who's an Asset? dlk Aug 2019 #13
I think what is referred to is 'witting' or 'unwitting'. please correct me if I misunderstand you. triron Aug 2019 #26
Well, we knew this years ago and so did the FBI Farmer-Rick Aug 2019 #14
Yeah, well we knew that already vlyons Aug 2019 #15
Russia, the wall and persecuting target groups are the ONLY Hortensis Aug 2019 #16
That's SUCH a good point! renate Aug 2019 #25
Yes, strikingly out of character, contradicting all patterns. Hortensis Aug 2019 #27
Bizarre in Biarritz lagomorph777 Aug 2019 #17
He's an idiot either way Ohioboy Aug 2019 #18
I believe Lawrence O'Donnell Bayard Aug 2019 #19
Yes Lawrence took a big risk. Why? I noticed also what you refer to in your last statement. triron Aug 2019 #24
I'm definitely not in the useful idiot category. We have for Enoki33 Aug 2019 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Aug 2019 #29
I think the same. triron Aug 2019 #31
The sex tapes Cyrano Aug 2019 #22
He's an agent. triron Aug 2019 #23
Agent Orange StarryNite Aug 2019 #33
K&R real Cannabis calm Aug 2019 #28
His loan portfolio would explain everything. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2019 #30
Yeah, it was obvious to the untrained eye, as well. GoCubsGo Aug 2019 #32
TrumPutin, Moscow Mitch and the Russiapublicans Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2019 #34
knr triron Aug 2019 #35
kick for visibility triron Aug 2019 #36
A bit of both Bradical79 Aug 2019 #37

JHB

(37,163 posts)
1. ...as the Republicans show a moue of distaste then back him at every turn.
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 08:18 AM
Aug 2019

Part of the ongoing Sovietization of the Republican party.

elias7

(4,029 posts)
3. We need to investigate the oranges of why people think he's easy on Russia
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 08:34 AM
Aug 2019

At some point, you have to wonder what is the point in intelligence protecting methods and keeping things classified if the intel is never used.

“Sometimes your cards aren’t worth a dime if you don’t lay’em down”

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
4. More every day
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 08:39 AM
Aug 2019

He appears to be owned by Putin and the Russian mob. Wonder if his border wall funds are getting funneled to them for payments because of his debts to them, and for blackmail info they have on him?

Cosmocat

(14,575 posts)
9. Or him standing in front of microphones and cameras and calling on Russia
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 09:12 AM
Aug 2019

to hack the DNC/Hillary when he was running?

OR, doing a back slapping PR event in the Oval Office with Russians and only russian media covering it?

It is one of a 1,000,000 ways this country has exposed itself as morally and ethically empty, but putting a CLEAR russian asset into the white house is mind bending.

UpInArms

(51,285 posts)
11. 👆🏼
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 09:26 AM
Aug 2019

It was apparent long before he took office

eta:

Changing the Republican plank to assist Russia with the Ukraine....

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
7. Comrade Donald showed his true colors multiple times already
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 09:06 AM
Aug 2019

He was, is and ever shall be a Russian stooge...

dlk

(11,578 posts)
13. Can't Trump be Both-a Useful Idiot Who's an Asset?
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 09:32 AM
Aug 2019

Trump is so ignorant he can’t spell and he’s definitely working for the Russians.

triron

(22,025 posts)
26. I think what is referred to is 'witting' or 'unwitting'. please correct me if I misunderstand you.
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 12:03 PM
Aug 2019

Farmer-Rick

(10,216 posts)
14. Well, we knew this years ago and so did the FBI
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 09:41 AM
Aug 2019

So, why didn't they do something about it before putting the Russian asset in charge?

Couldn't they have put out a letter on Traitor Trump? Why were they so willing to put out letters on Hillary but kept very quiet about a known Russian asset?

Did RepubliCONS in the FBI really sell out our democracy so that some filthy rich people could get richer?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Russia, the wall and persecuting target groups are the ONLY
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 09:55 AM
Aug 2019

things Trump hasn't folded like a wet paper towel on. And of those, the Republican leadership and those they serve need to allow him to yammer about his wall and persecute vulnerable people because it keeps the dangerous, "red in tooth and claw" base they all fear from turning on them. But everything else has not just been abandoned but actively betrayed, including the base's national healthcare which is to be permanently destroyed because the RW powers are determined on that.

Which leaves ONLY Russia. An incredibly weak and disordered man who simply cannot be strong or consistent has always been both for Putin. Of course, wanting to be a dictator, smash laws and hurt people are explained by mental disorder. But outside pressure is the only explanation anyone can come up with for this consistency that he's wholly incapable of on his own.

renate

(13,776 posts)
25. That's SUCH a good point!
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 11:40 AM
Aug 2019

His position changes daily/hourly on practically everything but the wall (which is probably Stephen Miller) and Russia. He’s been compulsively pro-Russian for four years, especially the past three. That consistency is so completely out of character for him.

Bayard

(22,172 posts)
19. I believe Lawrence O'Donnell
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 10:27 AM
Aug 2019

I do think he had a deeper purpose in exposing oligarchs co-signing tRump loans.....like an investigation being started, or tRump suing him so that he'd have to prove Lawrence was wrong.

I think he did it at risk to his job, because he acts like he got his ass chewed over it. More subdued. Repartee with Rachel is even turned way down.

triron

(22,025 posts)
24. Yes Lawrence took a big risk. Why? I noticed also what you refer to in your last statement.
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 11:34 AM
Aug 2019

Rachel seems freaked out or is is just me?

Enoki33

(1,588 posts)
20. I'm definitely not in the useful idiot category. We have for
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 10:31 AM
Aug 2019

far too long under estimated the cunning and pure evil capabilities of this most of despicable of any human when it directly relates to his personal survival and net worth accumulation. The monster who sits in the whitehouse is a full fledged Russian asset personally guided and managed by Putin, the master spy recruiter among many other things. There can be no other logical conclusion.

Response to Enoki33 (Reply #20)

Cyrano

(15,070 posts)
22. The sex tapes
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 11:14 AM
Aug 2019

Everything, everything in "The Dossier" has turned out to be on the mark.

So why would anyone assume that the sex tapes of Donald in a Moscow hotel room don't exist? That's all the leverage that Putin needs and he's using it to the maximum to control his orange puppet.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,656 posts)
30. His loan portfolio would explain everything.
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 01:00 PM
Aug 2019

Dividing America is the interest Trump is paying on them.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,468 posts)
34. TrumPutin, Moscow Mitch and the Russiapublicans
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:41 PM
Aug 2019

Never thought I'd see the day when Putin would have his own political party in the U.S.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
37. A bit of both
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 04:41 PM
Aug 2019

Though as far as being an "asset" goes, he probably sees it personally as a mutually beneficial relationship between himself and a fellow authoritarian leader.

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