A Baptist church in Birmingham, Alabama, is capturing national attention for putting up a sign that

[Demovictory9]

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A Baptist church in Birmingham, Alabama, is capturing national attention for putting up a sign that reads on one side, "A black vote for Trump is mental illness." The other side of the sign displays another message: "A white vote for Trump is pure racism.

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[LonePirate]

1. Hmmm... no lies detected here. What's the problem?

[TheBlackAdder]

26. Southern Baptist churches were the main drivers of Southern Paternalism (justifying slavery).

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It would be more apropos to state that "A Black Congregant in a Baptist Church is Mental Illness!"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212134313#post7

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[True Blue American]

32. No, there are many Black

Baptist Churches.

Only those who belong to the Southern Baptist Convention have that mentality and the Convention has been fighting about it for years those who want the Church to move forwatd seem to have won the battle at this time ousting the old Leader, who was accused of molestation.

There are many good black Baptist Churches but bigoted white people have put a blight on the Baptist name.

[TheBlackAdder]

40. Incorrect. Slaves in the South were not afforded church until after the Slave Uprisings.

[Roy Rolling]

41. Blacks and Baptists

That’s another issue. The issue is a church posting a political sign in favor or against a political candidate. As much as I think the message does not adequately state all the reasons people of God should have for opposing Trump, it is not proper for a tax-exempt church.

[TheBlackAdder]

42. Sorry, I was staying on topic. I know there are many Black Baptist churches, which I find odd

given that their history was to promote slavery and the Booker T. Washington position.

It just goes to show how institutional norms only take one generation to affirm themselves in a society.

I quickly read your last post, which didn't make sense as the SBC was formed around 15 years after the Slave Uprisings. Upon reread, I see that I made a mistake.

[Roy Rolling]

45. I totally agree

The relationship between Baptists and African-Americans seems out-of-place. And support by religious people for someone they profess to be profoundly irreligious is beyond comprehension. But that’s a Trojan Horse. Even though we welcome seemingly friendly and proper political positions offered by the church here, that will give license to other churches to post their Trump-friendly words of “wisdom”.

That’s what I saw in the post, as well as your on-point observation.

[True Blue American]

43. This is 2017

What do slaves have to do with Churches of today?

[TheBlackAdder]

50. Different form of slavery, making people beholden to anyone who wants to run and fleece a flock.

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So if the KKK became a benevolent society for a century, it would be OK to join that org too?

The Southern churches were holding back racial equality well into the 1960s, this includes the COGIC, A/G and JW extreme variants of Christianity, which have high AA membership.

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[True Blue American]

51. Fact on Southern Baptist

They are still trying to roll back when men were mew and women were second best.

But honestly so are many others.

[kimbutgar]

2. I hope that church doesn't get vandalized or burnt diwn

MF45 cult members are crazy and unhinged even more because it’s getting harder for them to justify their support for him. Everyday MF45 opens his mouth or does crazy and inhumane things his supporters are going wtf ! Of course, the die hard cruel ones are getting woodies for his sadism but they have always been that way and were unloved children.

[bitterross]

19. It's in AL. The place where AA Churches get bombed

They don't just burn them down, the blow them up with kids inside.

Remember the 16th Street Baptist Church.

https://www.cnn.com/2013/06/13/us/1963-birmingham-church-bombing-fast-facts/index.html

[Prosper]

3. Only bad thing

is Trump’s revenge squad will probably be all over the Church trying to ruin the church.

[Judi Lynn]

4. To be on the safe side, they may want to meet somewhere else for a while, until the Klan forgets!

It could be the one who put the sign there isn't old enough to remember the fact the Klan bombed a large black church and murdered some young women who were inside.

Klan monsters never learned to play nice with other people.

If the person responsible for the sign does remember, this was a courageous, admirable action, and from a Baptist church, too! Horribly bad, stupid, twisted parenting.

[real Cannabis calm]

5. K&R

[LakeArenal]

6. Brave. But now should lose tax exemption.

As the many other churches that have gone political.

Just like protesters lose their jobs or go to jail, Freedom isn’t free. It costs many their lives. Organizations that act publicly should have the same consequences as individuals.

That’s sacrifice.

[ret5hd]

11. Which churches have lost their tax exempt status?

[LakeArenal]

13. That's my point. They should. All that engage in politics.

But RW churches bloviate in tv.

[stopdiggin]

12. I don't think we've really enforced that standard for quite a while (nt)

[LakeArenal]

14. Exactly my point.

But churches are actively participating and they should be taxed.

[stopdiggin]

17. completely agree!!

[bobbieinok]

28. During Bush II reign, a CA church was investigated because it advocated vs him

Don't remember the outcome.

Someone 'informed on' them.

That's the only time I ever heard there was attempt to enforce rule.

[uponit7771]

29. +1,

[True Blue American]

33. We had huge front page stories by

Investigative Reporters here for Politicking during the Obama election!

The Catholic Churches were the worst. But Protestant Churches did the same. I was one of those who talked to one of the Reporters about a Pastor telling us we had to vote against Obama. That Church lost half it”s Member ship, including me.

[bobbieinok]

38. But no govt investigations, I bet. IIRC, the CA church was investigated by the govt.

[True Blue American]

39. All I know is that front page story

Put a stop to the Politicking around here. The Catholic Church was even boldly putting signs in the yard, passing out pamphlets inside the Church. Parishioners were furious. Leaving their Church, people transporting voters.

I know one woman who had hip surgery, she could not even walk, but transported people to vote. In her Caddie!

Even funnier Obama signs were all over the wealthy neighborhoods. Not all wealthy people are stupid.

[grantcart]

27. Or get a serious warning

There is a community church near Douglas AZ that had a very large sign next to their church sign (both on Church property) that said "ce n her for S Arizona Tea Party.

After driving by a couple dozen times I had extra time because of a cancelled appointment and stopped in front and took pictures. At the time I was wearing clothes similar to what s federal investigator would wear.

There was commotion inside the man we and I could see people looking at me. I crossed the street and took more pictures including those showing property lines.

Next time I went to Douglas the sign had been taken down.

[True Blue American]

34. Good job!

I reported a Pastor, so we need to keep it up.

[JohnnyRingo]

30. At least you're not a hypocrite.

I agree that churches should stick to whatever their particular God tells them and let government drive in it's own lane. I vote in a church, and I don't even like that.

Having said that, I'm cheering these people on while they're scoring points.

[LakeArenal]

52. I know I'm not a hypocrite.

[Maru Kitteh]

7. Can't say I disagree too much but still prefer Church stay out of my state.

[DFW]

10. Agreed

We can't have a double standard for separation of church and state.

Good enough for them, good enough for us. Keep the God Squad out of politics (or move to Iran).

[True Blue American]

35. 100%

I made it clear in my new Church that I was strictly for Separation of Church and State.

A couple had started in about Politics, I simply walked away but then mentioned to a couple how I felt. Very simply, not rude. I know word spreads in a small Church. I went there because the young Pastors are changing the direction of the Church. The Sermons are based on love and inclusion.

But I also know there are many there who do not like the change.

[LiberalLovinLug]

47. Love and Inclusion

Let me think...I believe there was some historical religious figure that advocated this as well. In fact a whole religion was formed around his teachings. Starts with a J...

[True Blue American]

48. That is what

These Pastors preach about!

[LiberalLovinLug]

49. As they should

My Dad was a true blue Christian. Turn the other cheek. Humble. Judge not lest ye be judged. Love one another, Do under others type Christian. When I look at how SOME Christian evangelical communities have evolved its disturbing. Prosperity Gospel where the more money you make, the more God loves you. Where Make America White Again, including using tactics like separating children from families is fine. Mega churches with ego driven TV star pastors who live in gold gilded mansions, couldn't wait until heaven I guess.

[George II]

8. Very brave.

[StarryNite]

9. Amen

[WhiskeyGrinder]

15. This is the same pastor who put up the sign that said "Black folks need to stay out of white

churches" last year when a megachurch was going to open another church to "combat crime."

[packman]

16. I remember a sign in 2016

"Vote Trump for a better nation" - sponsored by Southern Baptist

[Hulk]

18. Although I agree, I think maybe "a church" is over stepping it's bounds here....

Just like I wouldn't want a church putting up such a sign with some opinion about President Obama or our future president; I think this is maybe beyond what they should be posting. Just my humble opinion.

[StarfishSaver]

20. What the problem is?

[samplegirl]

21. Truth!!!!

[spike jones]

22. Wot's ... Uh The Deal? Since churches are notoriously segregated,

should not the sincerity of anything attributed to them about civil rights be taken with a grain of salt. The fact that many successful integration civil rights actions for society were started and maintained by churches, the churches themselves remain segregated. So “Wot’s… Uh The Deal?”

[dsharp88]

23. Really, they can just remove "black"

[JohnnyRingo]

24. This just in....

Att Gen William Barr lifted tax exemption for an Alabama church. Word is, it was the result of an executive action from the Oval Office based on the national emergency in the polls.

Trump's going to have to get those black unemployment numbers down a little more now. Working two minimum wage jobs just doesn't count anymore.

[raccoon]

25. Is El Senor Barr going to lift the tax exemption for

All those churches where their dipshit preacher told them to vote for Trump?

I thought not.

[Midnight Writer]

31. Never trust a preacher who tells you how to vote. Never trust a politician who tells you how to pray

[True Blue American]

36. I will remember that one!

[dalton99a]

44. Kick

[RazBerryBeret]

46. wow. Love this.

that really does sum it all up.