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napkinz

(17,199 posts)
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 01:14 PM Aug 2012

"GOP, The Party Of Gimmicks, Not Policies" ... how DNC could use Clint Fiasco

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Shouldn't the DNC create an ad using footage of Clint Eastwood and say that his appearance symbolizes the Republican Party's approach to dealing with our nation's problems, that the GOP is the party of gimmicks, not policies?

I can hear the announcer in such a commercial at some point saying, "Mr. Romney, America wants policies, not gimmicks."



edit: I'm not saying this should be presented as a joke. It should not be done in any way that mocks Clint Eastwood.

There should be NO sound. And no close-up. Just a wide shot of a man on a stage with a chair.

AND the announcer should say that the GOP exploited the stardom of "an American icon, a great director and actor." That the use of such a renowned artist was disturbing and emblematic of the GOP's whole approach to governing, which is all gimmicks and no real policies.



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"GOP, The Party Of Gimmicks, Not Policies" ... how DNC could use Clint Fiasco (Original Post) napkinz Aug 2012 OP
I don't think the dems should make Clint madaboutharry Aug 2012 #1
no, it wouldn't be presented as a joke napkinz Aug 2012 #3
That would work. madaboutharry Aug 2012 #13
also napkinz Aug 2012 #6
Good in theory but 1GirlieGirl Aug 2012 #2
It's how you present it napkinz Aug 2012 #5
GOP chasing windmills C_U_L8R Aug 2012 #4
You could say the only things invisible are Romney's convictions, core beliefs, etc. napkinz Aug 2012 #7
Actually, Obama should invite Clint to chat with him Segami Aug 2012 #8
Narrator: "From the major policy speech at the RNC..." Blue Meany Aug 2012 #9
No, the Clint debacle should be completely ignored TlalocW Aug 2012 #10
Not if it's presented seriously, not if Eastwood is PRAISED in the ad ... napkinz Aug 2012 #11
No TlalocW Aug 2012 #14
Well, I think it's a missed opportunity napkinz Aug 2012 #15
I know... have our "surprise speaker" be an ordinary, unknown (but coherent) American! reformist2 Aug 2012 #12
Well then I would choose an auto worker whose job was saved napkinz Sep 2012 #16

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
1. I don't think the dems should make Clint
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 01:16 PM
Aug 2012

The butt of a joke, it would make people mad for making fun of an old man.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
3. no, it wouldn't be presented as a joke
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 01:21 PM
Aug 2012

Just show some footage of Clint Eastwood talking to the chair, DON'T include what Clint actually said. It would be silent footage, with an announcer talking over it saying we don't need gimmicks.

If you don't air what Clint is saying, just show the moving images, as in a silent film, the audience would be forced to focus on the IMAGE, and in so doing convey the theme of it being gimmick.

Do you see what I'm saying?

edit: and don't show a close-up, show a wide shot, so that you see the stage and a man and a chair .. from a distance. Again, this is to focus on it being a gimmick.


napkinz

(17,199 posts)
6. also
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 01:41 PM
Aug 2012

You could even say in the commercial that a great actor, an American icon, was used inappropriately. So praising Clint Eastwood and focusing on the GOP's exploiting his stardom, would make it unlikey that any viewer would see the commercial as mocking him. Such a commercial wouldn't be seen as a joke.

And, furthermore, you could also say, "If the GOP can't manage a convention, how can they be expected to manage the nation?"





napkinz

(17,199 posts)
5. It's how you present it
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 01:30 PM
Aug 2012

I'm saying, it should not be made with the intent to get a laugh.

It should not be presented as a joke.

It should be done with gravitas.

No sound. Just a wide shot, a distant shot, of a man on a stage with a chair. And an announcer saying, "Mr. Romney (or Republican Party), we need policies, not gimmicks."




napkinz

(17,199 posts)
7. You could say the only things invisible are Romney's convictions, core beliefs, etc.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 01:47 PM
Aug 2012

Or better, his tax returns! (now, that would be a joke, so perhaps that would be a different commercial)











 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
8. Actually, Obama should invite Clint to chat with him
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 01:50 PM
Aug 2012

in private on AirForce1. Clint could vent his frustrations with the president ( if he chooses) and after that, the president would set him straight on all his misconceptions and distortions.

A public apology by Clint, directed at President Obama would be the beginning of the end for Mitt.

I doubt Clint has the passion or testicular courage to face Obama ' one-on-one ' to explain his comments.

TlalocW

(15,384 posts)
10. No, the Clint debacle should be completely ignored
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 02:26 PM
Aug 2012

By the Obama camp and the DNC.

We're going to have our own celebrity speakers, and if we go after Clint, it will be seen as piling on an old man. The internet and the late night joke-makers are going to do all the work for them. The DNC should be fun and upbeat, but it also needs to show who the adults are, and dregging up what will then be an old joke won't help us any.

TlalocW

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
11. Not if it's presented seriously, not if Eastwood is PRAISED in the ad ...
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 02:41 PM
Aug 2012

It should not be done in any way that mocks Clint Eastwood.

In fact, the announcer should say that the GOP exploited the stardom of "an American icon, a great director and actor." That the use of such a renowned artist was disturbing and emblematic of the GOP's whole approach to governing, which is all gimmicks and no real policies.




TlalocW

(15,384 posts)
14. No
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 02:49 PM
Aug 2012

There's no good way to do that. Using any kind of charge of exploitation makes Clint look weak. Clint decided to do this on his own, and he screwed up big time. The internet memes and jokes are enough (and I'm one of them joking about it). We're going to have our own celebrities there, and some will give speeches. Let's not set something up where we have the potential to get hoist on our own petards, and let's pray that the DNC vets everyone's speech.

TlalocW

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
15. Well, I think it's a missed opportunity
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 04:11 PM
Aug 2012

We wouldn't be mocking Clint Eastwood. He would be treated with respect.

It's the GOP we would be mocking, for exploiting a famous and highly praised American director/actor, and failing to present real policies, as opposed to gimmicks, stunts, and silly slogans, platitudes, etc.



reformist2

(9,841 posts)
12. I know... have our "surprise speaker" be an ordinary, unknown (but coherent) American!
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 02:45 PM
Aug 2012

How better to contrast Dems vis a vis the GOP - Make them look like the party of stuntcasting, over-the-top and silly figures like Christie, Rush, Trump and Eastwood. Emphasize that the stars of our party are ordinary people.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
16. Well then I would choose an auto worker whose job was saved
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 07:39 AM
Sep 2012

when the president rescued the auto industry.

Remember, it was Romney who said, "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt!"




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