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busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 08:28 PM Aug 2019

Please!! Jesus Christ! ...Please..

Stop with the "Thoughts and Prayers" bullshit already.

Those Officials currently being interviewed in Odessa including Police and Govt. are once again going to the the thoughts and Prayers card...

Thought, Prayers and God are not the answer to the lunacy we are currently experiencing in our country..

And while I'm still on the subject.. I will also state that the Mental illness conversation which is now the fav of all pro gun advocates and Republicans is complete bullshit as well..




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Please!! Jesus Christ! ...Please.. (Original Post) busterbrown Aug 2019 OP
If T&P worked, we'd not have guns in the first place? Brainfodder Aug 2019 #1
Yes, capitalism is to blame and I say that as an avid capitalist. riverine Aug 2019 #3
can we do this instead? CDerekGo Aug 2019 #2
That needs to be turned into a greeting card. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2019 #15
If you sent those, they would at least feed someone in need. KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2019 #19
I was surprised that Kamala Harris fell into the thoughts and prayers cliche. No one should *ever* tblue37 Aug 2019 #4
If prayers and God were the answer, I would venture to guess that shraby Aug 2019 #5
Also, all football games would end in a tie, since both teams pray for victory. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2019 #16
thoughts and prayers is SOP in gun humping Texas Skittles Aug 2019 #6
I look at it this way bluestarone Aug 2019 #7
Mental illness all around the world . It's guns in US which is big $$$$ lunasun Aug 2019 #8
You are SO right. Quick, let's blame video games again. tclambert Aug 2019 #9
Or single moms LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2019 #14
Yeah, video games. That's what it is. Oh, and comic books. 3Hotdogs Aug 2019 #23
No more thoughts and prayers. Sogo Aug 2019 #10
So right. I'd think cops would be leading the charge to blame guns. They surely don't think Karadeniz Aug 2019 #11
Amen Ferrets are Cool Aug 2019 #12
God's apparently not listening.... paleotn Aug 2019 #13
Why not instead express sympathy and love for the victims. KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2019 #17
Anthony Jeselnik put it very well.. BobTheSubgenius Aug 2019 #18
They are Timewas Aug 2019 #20
Maybe they're all just crisis actors. Crunchy Frog Aug 2019 #21
How do we know The Wizard Aug 2019 #22
If they actually engaged in any real thoughts ... Martin Eden Sep 2019 #24
Thoughts & prayers is spiritual masturbation that makes you feel good, elocs Sep 2019 #25
Thoughts and prayers really means it's ok if other people die for my political profit. lark Sep 2019 #26

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
1. If T&P worked, we'd not have guns in the first place?
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 08:30 PM
Aug 2019

Capitalism is at fault for all of this, but those with it firmly owning themselves would never admit it?

 

riverine

(516 posts)
3. Yes, capitalism is to blame and I say that as an avid capitalist.
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 08:44 PM
Aug 2019

In his great book Guns, Germs, and Steel, the noted anthropologist observed:

The book attempts to explain why Eurasian and North African civilizations have survived and conquered others, while arguing against the idea that Eurasian hegemony is due to any form of Eurasian intellectual, moral, or inherent genetic superiority. Diamond argues that the gaps in power and technology between human societies originate primarily in environmental differences, which are amplified by various positive feedback loops. When cultural or genetic differences have favored Eurasians (for example, written language or the development among Eurasians of resistance to endemic diseases), he asserts that these advantages occurred because of the influence of geography on societies and cultures (for example, by facilitating commerce and trade between different cultures) and were not inherent in the Eurasian genomes.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns,_Germs,_and_Steel

But humans love the great wealth created by capitalism even though we are destroying most other life on Earth.

It is quite the dilemma. No doubt life on Earth would be better off if all us humans were still foraging for food.
15. That needs to be turned into a greeting card.
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 10:36 PM
Aug 2019

Mail it to the representative of the congressional district where a mass shooting has occurred. The message inside: "DO SOMETHING!"

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
19. If you sent those, they would at least feed someone in need.
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 10:48 PM
Aug 2019

Far more productive than thoughts and prayers.......

tblue37

(65,227 posts)
4. I was surprised that Kamala Harris fell into the thoughts and prayers cliche. No one should *ever*
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 08:46 PM
Aug 2019

say that after a mass shooting. No one. Not ever.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
5. If prayers and God were the answer, I would venture to guess that
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 08:47 PM
Aug 2019

WWII would have been a lot shorter if those worked.

bluestarone

(16,864 posts)
7. I look at it this way
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 08:58 PM
Aug 2019

The fucking prayers HAVE been answered! EVERYONE can vote these fuckers out to get rid of ALL the assault weapons!! It's in OUR hands now!

tclambert

(11,084 posts)
9. You are SO right. Quick, let's blame video games again.
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 09:24 PM
Aug 2019

They have those same video games in other countries that don't have mass shootings? Well, what about violent TV shows? America must lead the world in violence on TV. Or junk food. Everyone knows we have a problem with junk food. Not sure the exact mechanism by which food choices lead to mass shootings, but, hey, what about Hillary's emails?

14. Or single moms
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 10:32 PM
Aug 2019

Seriously. This argument, though debunked, keeps showing up again, most recently reguritated by Republican Rep. Steve Womack of Arkansas.

Blame single moms (but not the men who deserted the family), mental health, video games, lack of Christian religion in the schools, the sun coming up in the east.

Just don't use the g-word.

REPEAL THE SECOND AMENDMENT!

3Hotdogs

(12,332 posts)
23. Yeah, video games. That's what it is. Oh, and comic books.
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 11:31 PM
Aug 2019

And boys being told they gotta stop playing with themselves, so they need an object to transfer their frustration.

Oh, and don't forget titties on television. And when boys don't get to play with any, they get frustrated.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
10. No more thoughts and prayers.
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 09:37 PM
Aug 2019

Being in farm country, I'm gonna say what they say about the farmers who are in a world of hurt because of the tariffs: No sympathy. You voted for the mofos who gave you these laws....



The shootings in West Texas took place a day before a series of new state laws easing gun restrictions were set to take effect.

The new laws were passed in August and will go into effect Sunday, September 1.

Among the new laws:

House Bill 1143 says a school district cannot prohibit licensed gun owners, including school employees, from storing a firearm or ammunition in a locked vehicle on a school parking lot -- provided they are not in plain view.
Senate Bill 535 clarifies the possession of firearms at churches, synagogues or other places of worship. It allows licensed handgun owners to legally carry their weapons in places of worship.
House Bill 1387 loosens restrictions on how many armed school marshals a school district can appoint.
House Bill 302 bans homeowners or landlords of rental property from prohibiting residents from lawfully possessing, carrying, transporting or storing a firearm or ammunition on the property.
House Bill 1177 prohibits residents from being charged with a crime for carrying a handgun while evacuating from a state or local disaster area.
House Bill 2363 allows some foster homes to store firearms and ammunition in a safe, locked and secure place for personal protection.
The NRA informed their members of the new laws on Thursday, stating that the bills were “protecting your second amendment rights.”


Karadeniz

(22,473 posts)
11. So right. I'd think cops would be leading the charge to blame guns. They surely don't think
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 09:40 PM
Aug 2019

it's good to have guns in people's hands when they make traffic stops, knock on a door with a search warrant, etc.

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
13. God's apparently not listening....
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 10:31 PM
Aug 2019

She's probably thinking...I gave you a perfectly good brain...use it! Fix the damn problem! Humans....Ugh!!

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
17. Why not instead express sympathy and love for the victims.
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 10:46 PM
Aug 2019

"Thoughts and Prayers" go no further than the person's brain who is expressing them and may only provide meditative relief for them only. So in that light, "Thoughts and Prayers" are selfish.

One can also express intent to commit to action, as in donations to charity or a gun control organization or to donate blood.

I feel if the victims hear of those type things from fellow citizens it would help far more than "Thoughts and Prayers".

KY..........

BobTheSubgenius

(11,560 posts)
18. Anthony Jeselnik put it very well..
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 10:48 PM
Aug 2019

Saying "thoughts and prayers" is the same as saying "Don't forget about me. This gives me sads."

The Wizard

(12,536 posts)
22. How do we know
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 11:23 PM
Aug 2019

the shooter wasn't taking orders from God. Maybe it happened because the prayers of those who wanted it to happen were stronger than the prayers of normal people.

elocs

(22,543 posts)
25. Thoughts & prayers is spiritual masturbation that makes you feel good,
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 07:08 AM
Sep 2019

but does nothing to help those in actual need.
Even the Bible is clear about this when it says if you meet someone homeless who needs food and clothes and you simply say, "God bless you, be clothed and fed" when you could have done something to feed and clothe them you have done nothing.

lark

(23,065 posts)
26. Thoughts and prayers really means it's ok if other people die for my political profit.
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 09:03 AM
Sep 2019

RW means more than people to the killers and their enablers, the Russian Repugs.

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