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Demovictory9

(32,448 posts)
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 10:09 AM Sep 2019

tweet of the morn: it's been less than a day since a baby was shot in the face with an assault rifle




Good morning America. Just a reminder that it’s been less than a day since a baby was shot in the face with an assault rifle.
7:01 AM · Sep 1, 2019·Twitter for iPhone
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tweet of the morn: it's been less than a day since a baby was shot in the face with an assault rifle (Original Post) Demovictory9 Sep 2019 OP
That something for everyone to think very hard about. nt oasis Sep 2019 #1
Moscow Mitch, NRA and Benedict Donald... Kid Berwyn Sep 2019 #2
Trouble is they will probably all get hard-ons. Lucky Luciano Sep 2019 #3
Oh, come on!!!!!!! MyOwnPeace Sep 2019 #4
"Thoughts and prayers" Scarsdale Sep 2019 #12
And some technical loophole B.S. as to why this wasn't an actual assault rifle aeromanKC Sep 2019 #20
The distraction of word games Haggis for Breakfast Sep 2019 #24
Russiapublicans will say more guns will solve the gun problem Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #29
Don't be to hard on Moscow Mitch. After all its not easy being Putin's Bitch. cstanleytech Sep 2019 #33
The anti-choice crowd is out in force in the comments. CrispyQ Sep 2019 #5
I missed that story. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2019 #6
I'm sure there's a factory making hopes and prayers for all the bereaved families. erronis Sep 2019 #7
Delivered keithbvadu2 Sep 2019 #11
No doubt Scarsdale Sep 2019 #13
Perfect. VOX Sep 2019 #21
Yes, now the little tyke is departed. I hope one DUer reads this. rzemanfl Sep 2019 #8
The little girl died? MontanaMama Sep 2019 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author rzemanfl Sep 2019 #32
It's very powerful when physicians and health professionals speak on this issue. Mike 03 Sep 2019 #9
I bet the US is responsible for shooting hundreds if not thousands of babies in the face with yaesu Sep 2019 #10
Yeah, but brown Scarsdale Sep 2019 #14
The shareholder primacy system of capitalism we've embraced PatrickforO Sep 2019 #16
very true. nt yaesu Sep 2019 #17
I always like to look at the replies. PatrickforO Sep 2019 #15
Thank you for using the proper terminology of "anti-abortion" ZZenith Sep 2019 #27
The Cons will just default to abortion statistics. nt MadDAsHell Sep 2019 #18
Are you safer than you were 4 years ago? bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #19
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2019 #22
I don't know if I'm any less safe. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #26
Maybe they've moved from big cities to random burb targets bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #34
Pledge: I will not vote for anyone HopeAgain Sep 2019 #23
Yes, and its tragic, but would it be less tragic if it were from a shotgun or revolver? aikoaiko Sep 2019 #25
shotguns and revolvers are not the weapons of choice for mass shootings Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #30
Actually, I believe handguns are the weapon of choice of mass shootings. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #36
Handguns are in fact the choice of mass shooters hack89 Sep 2019 #42
... Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #43
A very small portion of the total. Nt hack89 Sep 2019 #44
Not less tragic, duh. Less likely to happen in the first place. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2019 #31
There is no reason to think that mass shooters won't switch to the next available weapon. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #35
Forcing mass shooters to use less powerful weapons does some good. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2019 #38
I agree that reducing gun violence requires action on multiple fronts. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #39
"action on multiple fronts" Paladin Sep 2019 #40
I'll make it worth your while. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #41
FTR, I believe it's now been DeminPennswoods Sep 2019 #37

Kid Berwyn

(14,876 posts)
2. Moscow Mitch, NRA and Benedict Donald...
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 10:47 AM
Sep 2019

...should think about this every second of every minute of their remaining time.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
12. "Thoughts and prayers"
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 12:07 PM
Sep 2019

There, that'll help, won't it? That has helped so very much before with all the other massacres. Besides, it is all the gop has in their arsenal.

aeromanKC

(3,322 posts)
20. And some technical loophole B.S. as to why this wasn't an actual assault rifle
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 01:12 PM
Sep 2019

They seem to get off describing the technical aspects of the firearm.

CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)
5. The anti-choice crowd is out in force in the comments.
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 11:21 AM
Sep 2019

Because a clump of tissue in my uterus is the same as a living, breathing baby. ~ insert flip-the-bird smilie here

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,841 posts)
6. I missed that story.
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 11:21 AM
Sep 2019

So many shootings, so little time to read them all.

On edit: That was one of those shot in Odessa yesterday. I had missed that specific detail. Still, it's hard to keep up.

erronis

(15,237 posts)
7. I'm sure there's a factory making hopes and prayers for all the bereaved families.
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 11:26 AM
Sep 2019

It may be in China or in the NRA basement. I'm sure they offer discounts if you need to buy a lot of them.

MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
28. The little girl died?
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 12:46 AM
Sep 2019

Are you sure? I read that she’s badly wounded but not dead...oh I hope she’s not gone...

Response to MontanaMama (Reply #28)

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
9. It's very powerful when physicians and health professionals speak on this issue.
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 11:36 AM
Sep 2019

Remember that "stay in your lane"/"This is our lane" exchange?

Surgeons: THIS IS OUR LANE.

When doctors speak it is the real deal; it falls like a ton of bricks into reality.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
10. I bet the US is responsible for shooting hundreds if not thousands of babies in the face with
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 11:41 AM
Sep 2019

assault rifles while carrying on 2, probably 3 illegal wars over the last 15 years.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
14. Yeah, but brown
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 12:11 PM
Sep 2019

and black ones do not seem to count with this gop. If they were wealthy donors, THEN would be the time for action.

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
16. The shareholder primacy system of capitalism we've embraced
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 12:38 PM
Sep 2019

these last few decades is responsible for much of the carnage.

All the horrors we've inflicted on other nations, refugees, our own children, consumers, workers and the world itself - all these are directly attributable to our doctrine that shareholder profits are more important than life itself.

End this abusive form of capitalism by expanding the responsibility of corporations to include other stakeholders, and we won't cure the problems completely, but we'll all be a hell of a lot better off.

If you are interested, I recommend the 2012 Shareholder Value Myth, written by the late Lynn Stout, a Cornell University Law Professor. Also, the Roosevelt Institute in DC has some great papers about how shareholder primacy has driven up the prices of lifesaving drugs, resulted in busted unions, and put this planet on the path of uninhabitability.

The other thing this doctrine has given us is way more anxiety, depression and addictive behaviors, because humans aren't made to be 'rugged individualists pulling themselves up by the bootstraps' in a brutal dog-eat-dog world. That is a perverted and twisted way to even live. Humans are wired to help one another, to take care of their vulnerable, to act together for the common good.

So you end up with all this escapism: video games, porn, alcohol, opioids (capitalists making lots of PROFITS off those), sex, gambling and so on.

The sooner we grow up as a species and realize that since we are mortal, the lust for wealth and power is basically meaningless, so we're better off organizing ourselves around helping each other rather than greed, the better off this planet and ALL of its life will be.

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
15. I always like to look at the replies.
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 12:27 PM
Sep 2019

Just a couple of anti-abortion fanatics. And you know what?

They don't EVER get to take the moral high ground, ever again. Not after what we've seen in the Trump concentration camps. Babies ripped from their parents, lost in our foster system, put up for adoption and all the people housed in filthy cages. If these fanatics consider themselves at war with all other cultures, then these are WAR CRIMES.

As to the subject of this tweet, only three words - assault weapon ban.

ZZenith

(4,119 posts)
27. Thank you for using the proper terminology of "anti-abortion"
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 12:21 AM
Sep 2019

instead of their self-chosen misnomer “pro-life.”

I have taken to calling them “anti-choice” to be even more descriptive.

bucolic_frolic

(43,127 posts)
19. Are you safer than you were 4 years ago?
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 01:00 PM
Sep 2019

It's very simple. Trump has failed at everything, and safety is the most basic thing.

bucolic_frolic

(43,127 posts)
34. Maybe they've moved from big cities to random burb targets
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 08:47 AM
Sep 2019

plus they are mass murders instead of Sat Night Specials often involving drugs. Maybe?

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
23. Pledge: I will not vote for anyone
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 06:44 PM
Sep 2019

not in favor of banning assault weapons... regardless of party. Period.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
25. Yes, and its tragic, but would it be less tragic if it were from a shotgun or revolver?
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 12:14 AM
Sep 2019

Answer me that Dr Gu.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
36. Actually, I believe handguns are the weapon of choice of mass shootings.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 12:08 PM
Sep 2019


Remember, the most deadly school shooting is Virginia Tech and the shooter used 2 handguns with 10 and 5 round magazines.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
42. Handguns are in fact the choice of mass shooters
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 08:41 PM
Sep 2019

remember that mass shooting = 4 or more victims. Most workplace violence involves handguns.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,321 posts)
43. ...
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:04 PM
Sep 2019

Poway: AR-15
Aurora: AR-15
Dayton: AR-15
Odessa: AR-15
Orlando: AR-15
Parkland: AR-15
Las Vegas: AR-15
Tree of Life: AR-15
Sandy Hook: AR-15
Umpqua CC: AR-15
Waffle House: AR-15
Texas Church: AR-15
San Bernardino: AR-15

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
35. There is no reason to think that mass shooters won't switch to the next available weapon.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 12:06 PM
Sep 2019

Remember, the most deadly school shooting is Virginia Tech and the shooter used 2 handguns with 10 and 5 round magazines.

Assault Weapons Bans is the least effect laws for reducing gun violence. But they make for great culture war battles.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
38. Forcing mass shooters to use less powerful weapons does some good.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 07:34 PM
Sep 2019

At least it tends to reduce casualties.

The perfect is the enemy of the good. Banning assault weapons won't solve the problem. No single action will solve it. But that is no reason for inaction.

There is no rational reason action can't be taken on multiple fronts.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
39. I agree that reducing gun violence requires action on multiple fronts.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 08:15 PM
Sep 2019

My issue is that an assault weapons ban that forces 20+ millions firearms to be turned in to save a few lives may be one of the least effective, most costly means of doing so. And by costly I mean at the expense of more productive laws, losing the Executive and Legislative branches.

Clinton, in his memoir, talked about how his AWB helped reorganize the NRA and cost the Democratic party.

Paladin

(28,252 posts)
40. "action on multiple fronts"
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 08:32 PM
Sep 2019

I thought of asking you about that, but I've decided it's just not worth it. Carry on.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
41. I'll make it worth your while.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 08:39 PM
Sep 2019

1. Universal background checks
2. Red flag laws
3. Raise age on some or all weapons to 21 of 25
4. Cap magazines at 30, maybe 25
5. Strengthen existing NICS check data processing
6. Safe storage laws

If something had to be done about so-called assault weapons, then allow an open and free NFA-like registration process.


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