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Y'ever notice, white shooters are mentally unstable while shooters of color are thugs? (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Sep 2019 OP
Yes elleng Sep 2019 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author aikoaiko Sep 2019 #2
Yup and it's right there 2naSalit Sep 2019 #3
I see this every time there is a shooting. Archae Sep 2019 #4
Well, I would submit that religious zealot shooters are also mentally ill. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #11
Agreed Sacramento999 Sep 2019 #5
Yes. FoxNewsSucks Sep 2019 #6
and the brown ones are terrorists Skittles Sep 2019 #7
A friend of mine turned this argument around and said: Haggis for Breakfast Sep 2019 #13
That friend raised some good points ck4829 Sep 2019 #25
Yep ck4829 Sep 2019 #8
I think it's an effort of the Right to frame and control the narrative mitch96 Sep 2019 #9
Indeed ck4829 Sep 2019 #24
Of course malaise Sep 2019 #10
Actually, there does seem to be a difference. JohnnyRingo Sep 2019 #12
And here is the explanation. Because the two crimes & criminals are totally different. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #18
John Malvo. JohnnyRingo Sep 2019 #20
i totally agree with you. And that was a good example too. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #26
Misunderstood youth vs. gang member. Vinca Sep 2019 #14
A L W A Y S Eliot Rosewater Sep 2019 #15
Yes. I've also noticed Mr.Bill Sep 2019 #16
What's up with that? ck4829 Sep 2019 #23
Was he just a normal guy who was pushed too far and lost control? Marcuse Sep 2019 #17
Adam Lanza, James Holmes both had Sewa Sep 2019 #19
That's two out of how many? ck4829 Sep 2019 #22
Open Carrying While White vs. Open Carrying While Black - Klepper Video Drone Sep 2019 #21
Another thing I'm wondering... karin_sj Sep 2019 #27
Blacks loot while whites gather supplies lame54 Sep 2019 #28
What I notice is this. greymattermom Sep 2019 #29

Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

2naSalit

(86,600 posts)
3. Yup and it's right there
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 11:22 PM
Sep 2019

in the "America is white" script in the ugly play that is sweeping the nation... not that it hasn't been that way for as long as I can remember.

Archae

(46,327 posts)
4. I see this every time there is a shooting.
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 11:30 PM
Sep 2019

I know damn well much of the news media is all too willing to label Arabs as terrorists, and other ethnic groups as thugs and criminals, while calling whites mentally ill.

This is changing. It's going to take time, but it is changing.

I saw news people describing the El Paso shooter and Dylan Roof as white supremacist terrorists.

oldsoftie

(12,535 posts)
11. Well, I would submit that religious zealot shooters are also mentally ill.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 11:51 AM
Sep 2019

Thinking your Holy Book TELLS you to kill those who arent your faith, to me, show you have serious mental problems.
But ALL of these shooters are terrorists.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
6. Yes.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 12:42 AM
Sep 2019

That's absolutely right, and the bias is clear.

Only recently has the corporate media mentioned "white nationalists" or "white supremacists". And they still don't make it sufficiently clear how pervasive the bigotry is, or who is inciting it.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
13. A friend of mine turned this argument around and said:
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 05:14 PM
Sep 2019

If the Arabs are always jihadis, driven by religious fundamentalism and ideology, with nary a mention of mental illness, does that mean that they are all mentally stable ? What could explain such mental stability ? Perhaps, it is the kabob ? Maybe the hummus ?

mitch96

(13,903 posts)
9. I think it's an effort of the Right to frame and control the narrative
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 07:19 AM
Sep 2019

If they can shine a negative light on their opposition that is their goal.. aka brainwashing the base
It’s like the old hack, Men are “assertive” and women are “bossy” thing...
We can play that game too. Any negative to the RW should be preceded with “Assault”
Assault on our freedom, assault on our children, assault on our constitution.. ?Assault weapons?
M

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
12. Actually, there does seem to be a difference.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 12:10 PM
Sep 2019

With few exceptions, mass shooters seem to be white men. Gang related shootings seem to be a focus of the AA community these days.

Murder for profit, as in organized crime hits, could be described as thuggish behavior, while shooting random bystanders without a clear agenda is almost certainly the work of a deranged individual. Sure, there are blurred lines there in motive, but a thug defined is "Someone with an intimidating and unseemly appearance and mannerisms, who treats others violently and roughly, often for hire."

oldsoftie

(12,535 posts)
18. And here is the explanation. Because the two crimes & criminals are totally different.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 09:54 PM
Sep 2019

VERY few mass shooters are black.
But it has to be about race, so your point will be ignored.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
20. John Malvo.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 10:45 PM
Sep 2019

AKA the DC sniper, the closest thing I can think of as a black mass shooter. They even used a AR15 through a hole in their trunk to pick off 13 unsuspecting victims. I know for a fact they weren't referred to as thugs in the news media.

The term thug is usually in reference to organized gang crime. White people who murder random people for no capital gain could easily be seen as deranged. That was my point. The OP is claiming it's all about race.

oldsoftie

(12,535 posts)
26. i totally agree with you. And that was a good example too.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 06:37 AM
Sep 2019

There's almost ALWAYS an OP claiming its all about race, no matter the subject.

Vinca

(50,270 posts)
14. Misunderstood youth vs. gang member.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 05:44 PM
Sep 2019

And they really didn't want to give out this guy's name which must indicate a serious right wing nutball.

Mr.Bill

(24,284 posts)
16. Yes. I've also noticed
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 07:52 PM
Sep 2019

that unarmed black men wo get arrested look like they have had the shit beaten out of them in their mug shots while armed white men are arrested peacefully.

ck4829

(35,075 posts)
22. That's two out of how many?
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 06:14 AM
Sep 2019

Apparently non-white people are immune to mental illness?

We need to study this... could be the universal cure to all mental illness.

karin_sj

(808 posts)
27. Another thing I'm wondering...
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 08:05 PM
Sep 2019

Why aren't we hearing anything more details about this particular shooter. It's pretty weird...

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
29. What I notice is this.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:12 AM
Sep 2019

White shooters. White is the most important thing.
Shooters of color. Shooters is the most important thing.

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