Event hall cancels mixed-race couple's wedding: 'Our Christian beliefs don't allow mixed weddings'

[Soph0571]

When LaKambria Welch found out that the venue they chose to host her brother’s wedding would no longer do so due to the owner’s “beliefs,” she decided to drive to the venue herself to confront the owner and find out why. In a video she filmed of the encounter, she was told that the reason was due to her brother being black and his fiancée being a white woman, Deep South Voice reports.

The woman in the video, who Welch identified as an employee of Boone’s Camp Event Hall, told her that “we don’t do gay weddings or mixed race” weddings due to “our Christian belief.”

“Okay, we’re Christians as well,” Welch replied before asking, “So, what in the Bible tells you that?”

“Well, I don’t want to argue my faith,” the woman said.

Welch then asked the woman to clarify her reasoning.

“Okay. So that’s your Christian belief, right?,” Welch asked.

“Yes ma’am.”

[link:https://deadstate.org/event-hall-cancels-mixed-race-couples-wedding-our-christian-beliefs-dont-allow-mixed-weddings/|]

Who are these people and where have they spent the years since the civil rights act??? Good grief. Racist scum

[RKP5637]

1. Damn fools, wacky christians again. ... has become a code word for hatred and racism, I guess. n/t

[azureblue]

13. It's time to rename them

as Biblicans. They ignore the teachings of Christ. They cherry pick and distort Old Testament verses to support their dogma. They are not Christians. They just like the name but don't want to walk the walk.

[RKP5637]

17. Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "They just like the name but don't want to walk the walk." n/t

[njhoneybadger]

42. +1

[bdamomma]

52. Too much

religion makes people stupid. Isn't that the truth. Putin must love all this division and hate.

Americans are tearing each other apart.

[Paladin]

80. Useful distinction and terminology. Thanks...and God Bless. ;) nt

[PatSeg]

85. Like so many people,

they use their religion as an excuse for their prejudices and hatred. I've seen it so many times, especially when men try to justify their treatment of their wives........."The bible says blah, blah, blah".

[smirkymonkey]

86. I don't even know if that would work, since most of them aren't even that familiar

with the bible. In fact, what they are has nothing to do with religion at all. They are a hate cult.

We should call them what they really are: Hateful, racist, bigoted, right-wing assholes. I think that probably describes them best.

[calimary]

88. There's also "Christianists". That one's been around for awhile.

Not really “Christian” as in “followers of Christ.” Nope. These are followers of what they “believe” are some cockamamie man-made conveniently and selfishly politicized distortions of the Message of Christ - to accommodate their personal prejudices and earthly biases and judgmentalisms. It’s the very fallible and deeply suspect “teachings” of man, not of Jesus.

Ye olde long-ago Catholic school inmate here. In my opinion and in-person witness throughout my foundational “Wonder years,” we were taught that the Teachings of Jesus were not exclusionary. He intended His Word out there to be for EVERYONE. From the exalted to the excoriated. BOTH the wanted and unwanted. The “in crowd” AND the outsiders and the banished and the otherwise-excluded.

Jesus would not have turned that prospective bride and groom away. He would not have judged. Certainly not the way this venue management did.

The real challenge, though, is to follow His Teachings ALL the way out. And that’s the hard part. Because we’re judging, too, when we condemn the perceived offenders here.

But DAYUM that’s hard. That’s the almost-impossibly hard part. It’s damn hard not to call a spade a spade. I struggle with that every minute of every day (particularly these days!), and I have a very long track record of failure - well-documented here. Jesus said we must love everyone, including our enemies. And that’s DAMN HARD. The whole “hate the sin, not the sinner” thing. And I fail at that every doggone day.

It’s hard NOT to hate and/or despise our republi-CON enemies. It’s hard not to hate who and what they are. It’s certainly easy to hate what they do.

[Voltaire2]

96. Every Christian faith cherrypicks and distorts.

[not_the_one]

105. slaves obey your master is in the new testament

so all the batshit stuff is not only in the old testament...

It clarified that the god who is omniscient and omnipotent, was CLUELESS when arranging for the Jews to be chosen and the Arabs to be the bastards... causing the deaths of countless millions. Guess he blew that one BIG TIME.

The bible is a big, thick, heavy book. Makes a GREAT doorstop.

Not very useful for anything else, except for control, manipulation, delegating the male as superior (after all god, himself, had a penis), the female as subservient. And without that steaming pile of excrement, mankind would never have been able to figure out that we should treat others as we would like to be treated.

PLEASE don't get me started, I may tell you how I REALLY feel..

[Maraya1969]

108. I think that's great. Biblicons!

[SidDithers]

147. No, they're Christians...nt

Sid

[trotsky]

173. They are very much Christians.

They just interpret the bible differently. It's important to recognize that "they're not REAL Christians" is the exact same thing they say about liberal Christians. It gets us nowhere.

[brush]

57. Not the best video, with no face showing, but it should be enough to sue the hell...

out of them for violating civil rights laws. Hope they get a good lawyer put those phonies out of business.

[RKP5637]

63. It's incredible! I can't believe this bullshit is going on in 2019! n/t

[AJT]

101. Their religious beliefs will win. The current makeup of the supreme court

is majority religious conservative and the 1st amendment(their interpretation)will trump(couldn't resist)all other amendments.

[brush]

111. You think a local case like that will get all the way to SCOTUS?

[AJT]

113. That may be the point... establish the precedent.

[brush]

115. It's such an obvious violation of civil rights laws the circuit court might not take it, much less..

SCOTUS as I think Roberts at least wants to appear non-racist.

[John Fante]

163. Even Scalia would have ruled against the church in this case.

I doubt it even gets to the Supreme Court.
P

[whathehell]

129. Phony Christians -- There's not a WORD in the New Testament about race

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or "intermarriage".and it's NOT something preached by Catholics or any Mainstream Protestant demonination. These Wing Nuts would probably cite the Profit Motive as part of the Sermon on The Mount.

[RKP5637]

132. They make up crap as they go along. Incredible. n/t

[whathehell]

164. It would seem so. n/t

[dalton99a]

2. Idiot should read the Bible

The part where Moses married an Ethiopian. Numbers 12:1-15

[Buckeyeblue]

3. Where in the bible is that supported?

[whistler162]

6. Nathan 6:66

[TeamPooka]

100. Sue the shit out of them.

[questionseverything]

127. see thats not true...there is no nathan

[bullwinkle428]

4. This has ALWAYS been the goal of those assholes pushing the

"religious freedom" laws - the ability to discriminate against anyone they damn well please, for whatever reason they believe to be justified.

[Blue_true]

134. Yep. Along with ban any religion but their own. nt

[abqtommy]

5. Since there's only one Race, the Human Race, then there's no such thing

as a mixed-race wedding or relationship. It's grand that love can win out over ethnic/cultural prejudices.

[Blue_true]

135. People like that old woman could care less about science.

The reality is that regardless of skin color, a fertile human male likely will impregnate a fertile human female if they have sex, that old lady's God made that possible.

[superpatriotman]

7. Beware of any sentence that starts with:

‘Now I’m a Christian...”

[Faux pas]

12. For sure!

When someone introduces themselves to me saying "I'm so and so and I'm a "Christian", while they're shaking my hand, I'm watching for the knife in their other hand behind my back!

[DemoTex]

25. Or: "Well, I don't want to argue my faith .."

IOW: I don't know jackshit about religion, I'm just a hateful bigot.

[JHB]

35. If he's going to claim "faith" to circumvent settled law, then he damn well better "argue his faith"

[happybird]

69. +1

[SummerSnow]

27. I had an aunt who always said she was a god fearing woman. Never trusted her.

[RKP5637]

67. Neither would I. I don't trust anyone that wears religion as a badge. n/t

[Crunchy Frog]

104. I've been screwed over enough times by those kinds of people

To know not to trust them.

[RKP5637]

107. I've had some bad dealings with these characters on eBay. Bought some things not because

they had some god advertising as part of their listing, but because of the product. Several times one thing or another has been a problem. Now, I avoid anyone that has god advertising as part of their listing. Also, I avoid using contractors that have god advertising as part of their business model. ... ever notice in traffic, sometimes, one ahead of you driving like an asshole has a fish logo on the back of their car. I have, numerous times.

[catbyte]

28. No kidding. It's a lot like "I'm not racist, but..." You just know some nauseating

bullshit is to follow.

[Faux pas]

8. You can't be

a racist and a 'christian'. So, let's just call is racist.

[OregonBlue]

46. Maybe we need to call them Racetians.

[Faux pas]

90. Lol there you go!

Where are you in Oregon? I used to live in Otis until two years ago.

[OregonBlue]

172. Haven't been checking my posts. Tygh Valley.

It's due east of Mount Hood and south of The Dalles. Otis is near Eugene?

[Faux pas]

174. Ah

I never heard of Tygh Valley before, interesting. Otis is just north of Lincoln City, I was about 2 miles from the beach. Living large now in Hoquiam WA, about 20 miles from the beach but the Hoquiam River is just across the road.

[OregonBlue]

178. I knew I knew the name. We used to go to the coast a lot. I know the

Hoqium area too. Lived in Washington for years and went to the coast that way and had friends in Aberdeen. Just moved back to Missoula, Montana. Love it here except Jan-April. Lol.

[Faux pas]

179. Small world, huh?

Hope Jan-April are good to you next year!

[OregonBlue]

181. Oh gosh. I moved back to Missoula just in time u

for the worst winter in over 40 years. If we have another one of those I just might move back to Oregon.

[Faux pas]

182. Lol

I was raised in SoCal and winter here last year just about finished me off! We've had a seriously mild summer this year, hoping it continues thru winter

[Scarsdale]

9. Spread the word about

this "Christian" place. Once the money dries up, their "christianity" might suddenly have a change of heart. I wonder if they ask people their race when they put down a deposit? Who would want to hold any type of celebration at such a place?

[yardwork]

10. This is the goal of these "Christian" laws.

[mountain grammy]

37. Exactly!

I've believed that since the first fanatic refused to serve pizza to a gay couple..

"strongly held religious beliefs" is Jim Crow and segregation, and the ultimate tool, voter suppression.

[Blue_true]

136. I don't know whether it is still the case, but several "Christian" universities frown on interracial

dating. Imagine meeting a person that you really connect with while in school at one of those places?

[Botany]

11. So if God/Jesus is against inter race marriages/families then why did he/she make it so they ...

... can have children? BTW if the Historical Jesus of the Bible is correct then he would have
been black.

[Jedi Guy]

38. The King of the Jews would have been black? Wouldn't he have been... you know, Jewish? N/T

[irisblue]

43. You can be Jewish and dark skinned.

[Botany]

47. In present day Somalia you have a Jewish tribe that by DNA that can be traced back to Bethlehem.

The blue haired and blond eyed northern european Jesus would not have fit in with
the people of the region back then.

[hedda_foil]

83. Link? I'd love to read about that.

[Jedi Guy]

89. I'm not arguing for a "European" Jesus with blond hair and blue eyes.

But you can't confidently assert that the historical Jesus was black based on modern-day Jewish Somalis. It's far more likely he looked like the image of the "historical Jesus" that made the rounds a few years ago.

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[Blue_true]

139. He would have been darker than some American Blacks.

Did you see the picture of the African American woman who spoke to the racist on behalf of her brother and his fiancé? She was pretty light skinned.

[IronLionZion]

155. Middle Eastern Jews are often brown like your photo

The Israelis you see on the news are mostly the European type, who are lighter skinned. There are all types of Jews throughout the world.

[Blue_true]

138. Alexander the Great brought the blonde haired, blue eyed Jesus image to the Middleeast from what

I understand.

True Sephardic Jewish people of the type that Jesus would have been have pretty dark skin.

[DFW]

165. Aleaxander the Great died in 323 BC

I don't think he was bringing any images of Jesus anywhere several hundred years before Jesus was born.

[Blue_true]

176. Then I got the name wrong. It may have been the crusaders that brought a Europeanized

Jesus to the Middleeast, but that image was introduced there from Europe, the earlier image was not European.

[DFW]

177. The crusaders would indeed make more sense.

There were indeed plenty of them that hailed from northern Europe, and their mission was (according to their official propaganda, anyway) in the name of Christianity. Alexander III (the Great) of Macedonia lived centuries before Christ, and thus before there was any such thing as Christianity.

[procon]

81. Ethiopian Jews are black and their history is ancient. nt

[JDC]

14. "Faith"

More like, "I don't want to argue my overt racism and prejudice"

[keithbvadu2]

15. The sanctity of Holy matrimony for conservative Christians - Kim Davis

The sanctity of Holy matrimony for conservative Christians - Kim Davis

[dalton99a]

18. +1

[George II]

16. They were stupid enough to SAY that openly? Hellooo big lawsuit!

[irisblue]

19. That venue just bought a lot of lawyer time.

[bitterross]

157. I sure hope so.

The GOP can't stand same-sex marriage. So it's easy for them to defend the cake makers, florists and venues who won't work with the LGBTQ+ community. It's going to be a lot tougher for them to write off African-Americans though. In the original article on the Deep South Voice there is a GOP Rep. who is dancing all around the issue. He's in favor of blocking the gays, but the interracial thing is "different" he says. Yep, it's different Rep. Foster because you're afraid of the African-American voters mobilizing against you in numbers the LGBTQ+ voters cannot. You're afraid of being called racist, but you're not afraid of being called homophobic.

I want to go open an Islamic Center and start refusing service to Christians and see how that goes. It'd be burned down or blown up in no time.

[HipChick]

20. Reminds me of a neighbor...

Jesus was blonde and blue eyes..
She's a Christian and refuses to allow her kids to play with black children or Hispanic children..

[Girard442]

21. People will say they aren't REAL Christians.

Well, the REAL Christians need to take back the brand. If they don't those will be the only Christians anyone ever hears about.

[Jedi Guy]

39. Do the REAL Muslims need to take back the brand from ISIS and al Qaeda? N/T

[Mariana]

55. Here are some examples of what Christians could do

to show that these hateful Christians don't represent them:

Let's see a blizzard of press releases from pastors and other Christian leaders, making it perfectly clear that they don't agree with this behavior and consider it shameful that any Christians act this way. Let's see millions of letters to the editor, blog entries, etc. from Christian laypeople, expressing the same. Let's see Christian churches posting similar sentiments on their church signs, and on the front pages their church websites. Let's see yard signs in front of the houses of Christians, specifically condemning this. Let's see Christians picketing outside this venue.

Or, Christians can just shrug, proclaim that these people aren't real Christians, and go on their merry way.

[RKP5637]

71. The Methodist church, for example, just enacted some vile anti-LGBT rules for all of their churches.

They aren't saints in my book ... and certainly not very welcoming. They have their share of hatred and bigotry too as a major christian religion.

[yellowdogintexas]

160. all of that is being challenged and will be voted again in 2020

The UMC is most likely going to split. Those rules were always there. There was an alternative proposal which was to let each congregation work out its own path on this issue, and that proposal was voted down, leaving the original rules from the Book of Discipline in place. I believe a couple of additional bits were thrown in to make it uglier. The conservative faction that has stirred this all up is absolutely vile...and they are clearly soiling the nest to force the progressive congregations to do the leaving instead of just walking out themselves.

We just found out that the Judicial Court of the UMC has ruled that congregations which leave the current UMC for a newly formed denomination will definitely be allowed to retain all of their church property. One of the big roadblocks was the fact that all church properties actually belong to the Annual Conference where the buildings are located. If a congregation disbanded, the conference would get their property. Now that the church can keep its property, we may see congregations take action after the 2020 conference. Our church has the largest footprint in downtown Fort Worth - developers would be salivating over our parking lots alone!

Also, some of those rules regarding punishments for pastors who perform same sex marriage and or are openly gay ...welll how they are enforced really depends on where you are.

There is supposed to be a suspension of pay for the minister in question .... which could be at least a year and basically the minister can't really perform his/her job.

However in the Western Jurisdiction they are fining the ministers like $5 and they are allowed to continue doing their jobs. Also, many individual congregations are identifying as 'reconciling' https://rmnetwork.org/ The rebellion is growing.

Most of the things which happened at General Conference were due to the votes of the African delegations, and a very insidious campaign run by a far right sub set within the UMC. Every 4 years this gets voted on and every 4 years the vote gets tighter. The Gen Con in 2019 was a special one; the regularly scheduled one will be in 2020. It's gonna be interesting!!!

[RKP5637]

175. Thanks very much for the update!!!!

[Pendrench]

76. Hi Mariana - You make a very interesting point.

As someone who considers myself to be a Christian (Roman Catholic), I think that it would be easy for me to say that these individuals are not "real" Christians - but I also think that this would be dishonest and dangerous to do so.

To me, a Christian is someone who believes in the divinity of Christ...so if they hold that belief, then they are real Christians.

The question then becomes, how do you live your life and treat others based on that belief? Does that belief cause you to see others as inferior? Does it cause you to hate and exclude others?

Or does it prompt you to care and reach out to others? To show love and concern, rather than scorn and contempt?

That is why I firmly believe that if there is a god, he/she/it cares less about WHAT we believe, but rather how we treat others.

Anyway, those are just my thoughts.

Wishing you well and peace.

Tim

[Anon-C]

84. Loll!

[Jedi Guy]

87. That doesn't answer my question.

Should Muslims be expected to have to work overtime to counterbalance the things done in the name of Islam by ISIS and al Qaeda? We all know that ISIS and al Qaeda aren't representative of Islam and that their misdeeds don't characterize the religion.

If that's the case, why then do Christians have to work overtime to counterbalance the things done by these people and those like them?

[Mariana]

102. Christians don't HAVE to do anything about stuff like this.

That is clearly demonstrated by the fact that very few of them bother to do anything about stuff like this, even something as tame as writing a letter to the editor. "Not real Christians, not my problem" seems to be the prevailing attitude.

Muslims are actively fighting ISIS and al Qaeda, with guns and bombs. Did you really not know this?

[SCVDem]

114. Remember after 9-11,

People were calling for exactly the same thing from the Muslim community.

Funny how that works.

[Mariana]

118. Many of them did do that, for example:

In a Joint Statement by the American Muslim Alliance, American Muslim Council, Association of Muslim Scientists and Engineers, Association of Muslim Social Scientists, Council on American-Islamic Relations, Islamic Medical Association of North America, Islamic Circle of North America, Islamic Society of North America, Ministry of Imam W. Deen Mohammed, Muslim American Society and Muslim Public Affairs Council, stated:

American Muslims utterly condemn the vicious and cowardly acts of terrorism against innocent civilians. We join with all Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators. No political cause could ever be assisted by such immoral acts.

Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam:

I, on behalf of all the members of the Nation of Islam and on behalf of many millions of Muslims here in America and throughout the world, lift our voices to condemn this vicious and atrocious attack on the United States.

On the other hand, very popular and influential Christian leaders Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell blamed Americans for 9/11:

[Jedi Guy]

144. Thank you, that's precisely the point I was trying to make.

Christians shouldn't have to do/say anything when someone who claims membership in the group behaves badly, particularly when the people making the comparison don't expect the same of other religious groups.

[Mariana]

152. Of course they don't have to do/say anything.

The rest of us are free to draw our own conclusions, when Christians refuse to criticize their hateful and disgusting co-religionists.

[Blue_true]

140. No, but almost everyone is insisting that they do. Why should Christians be held to a different

standard? I was born and raised a Christian, but the hyprocracy proved to be revolting as I grew older.

[WePurrsevere]

58. "If it bleeds, it leads" "sex/scandals sell" etc...

MSM prioritizes attention grabbing stories because crazy, extremism, violence, sex, those things sell papers & attract viewers/listeners.

While I dislike that they do this, I also came to the conclusion long ago that the majority of mainstream media are no longer in the business solely to report news. Unfortunately they're mostly owned by big corporations who are in the business to gain power and make $$$.

Most gospel based Christians I know lead caring, quiet lives of "love thy neighbour", "judge not" and the "Golden Rule. They feel they should share their beliefs by being an example of what Jesus taught, not by trying to force their beliefs on others like headline grabbing RW evangelicals do. Media will use their stories as fillers on slow news days but sadly, since TrumpliCons were bought and manipulated into power, those days seem to be very rare, closing in on extinction.

FWIW there are some churches and gospel based Christians and Xian ministers speaking out, John Pavlovitz is one that I've been following the longest.

[Hortensis]

116. This. Thanks, WeP.

Religious/ethos bigotry is ugly and very wrong from any direction.

Bigotry: Smearing whole groups for the faults and actions, real or too often not real at all, of some.

[Ferrets are Cool]

150. ...

and this includes my own mother....and I love her more than anything. I still have to reprimand her for using the N word. Drives me freaking nuts.
And, no, being old is no excuse.

[hlthe2b]

22. The MOSt irritating news stories for me are those that aptly describe a serious problem that makes

one's blood boil but fails to address whether or not any further action (e.g., legal) is planned, considered, or whether other groups are considering stepping in.

The gist of the article is already irritating as hell, but my anger tends to extend to the news outlet for not adequately covering the FULL story.

[blugbox]

59. I agree! Very annoying

Looks like their FB page is down... I'm pretty sure you can call them and ask why haha

[Lonestarblue]

23. The Supreme Court has a lot to answer for.

First they overturn the interpretation of the 2nd Amendment to allow anyone to have any gun whenever they want. Then they declare that corporations are people and have all the rights of people. Then they declare that religious belief gives both corporations and people the right to discriminate against anyone for any reason by just claiming religious freedom. And they opened the floodgates to unlimited money by groups pushing these backward ideas.

This is what happens when you have a court basing its opinions on their personal beliefs rather than the law. If the argument of originalism is used, as it has been by this court, then show me where the Constitution says that corporations are people, show me where it says one religious sect’s beliefs can be used to make laws affecting people not of those beliefs.

[Freethinker65]

44. +100

[RKP5637]

73. Extremely well said!!! The crap SCOTUS enacts is incredible! n/t

[Nasruddin]

74. Supreme fallacy

The concept of the court is bad - at least since Marbury v Madison - maybe originally.

This court acts as an unelected, unaccountable legislature.
It picks and chooses what it acts on - it doesn't have the capacity needed.
The time for judicial review is at the beginning of a law's life, not at some random time when long in place.

There are some libertarians who have developed these ideas. I've come to see a lot of wisdom in this critique.

Sometimes we have courts that support our ideas, and sometimes not. I think it is important to see that the concept is bad regardless.
I don't think it's ever solved any problems. It has temporarily stopped debate and maybe the benefit is stopping the bleeding or giving everybody a time out, but it doesn't do anything useful for our social ability to compromise. We've come to see it as a substitute. It's a bad one.

[Lonestarblue]

97. I have waffled on the idea of expanding the number of SC judges, but I think it is needed.

The SC takes only about 2% seconds of cases from the appeals courts, which leaves a lot of power in the hands of the appeals courts. We have 13 US Appeals Courts, including the one for DC and the one for the Federal Circuit. Currently each SC justice oversees more than one district. That a lot of cases to oversee and most likely affects the number of cases the SC itself can take on. Your idea of reviewing laws quickly before they cause harm is important, yet it takes years for bad laws to get a hearing and they may go into effect unless a lower court judge issues a stay.

I would be in favor of 11 SC justices, with the Chief Justice overseeing both the Federal Circuit and the DC courts, as he does now. Two of the smaller (or less active) appeals courts might also be combined under one justice. There are so many more cases now, yet the number of SC justices has not changed in decades. I think we might have a more balanced court with more people on it so that one or two rabid ideologues are not able to do so much damage, as I believe Antonin Scalia did.

[procon]

82. Exactly! Well writ indeed. nt

[DFW]

166. I'd love to see Clarence Thomas in a decision allowing discrimination against interracial marriage

Seeing as how his wife is white............

[SWBTATTReg]

24. This place needs to be picketed and protested against with every oz of energy...scumbags like...

this and the businesses that they run shouldn't be allowed to operate or exist under fake pretenses manufactured by the owners/workers and/or their interpretations of what the bible says.

Disgusting.

[at140]

26. I thought all men (& women) are created equal according to bible?

I am not a Christian but everyone knows that.

[SCantiGOP]

45. I think you're thinking about the Declaration of Independence

The Old Testament clearly states that God created kings and slaves and each has their place. No hint of all men created equal.

[at140]

95. Me thinks you are right!

having never studied the bible, my opinions are always suspect.

[Voltaire2]

103. certainly neither document view women as equal

[blugbox]

65. According to the bible

Women were created from and for men, to literally just be basically a servant for life.

I don't quite understand how any woman could be a proud christian, knowing what role they are supposed to serve and how demeaning it all is.

[GulfCoast66]

156. Actually, nothing could be farther from the truth.

The Bible fully supports the oppression of women and slavery. Also killing those that do not please the lord. I grew up in an evangelical church. There is shit in that book to support all kinds of evil.

Not saying all Christians are guided by that stuff. Many good people are Christians and support my views. Many on DU.

But if you want to be an oppressive asshole you can find plenty of backing in the Bible.

The 80% of evangelicals who support Trump sure do. And they can find chapter and verse to support their views. Well, except Abortion. It’s not mentioned. But they find a way.

[Soxfan58]

29. Did I wake up in 1955

[GulfCoast66]

30. They need to it their venue up for sale...

To pay for the upcoming lawsuit. Discrimination based on race is illegal. Idiots.

[usaf-vet]

31. When Trump was asked in a recent interview which was his favorite New or Old Testament?

His telling answered "BOTH" proving he didn't know the difference so he took the idiots way out.

This is what I find so madding about a group of people who claim to be "Christians". I call BS for that select group that uses it as a shield and a shield ONLY.

They don't live as Christians in my book. They demonstrate NO Christian values in their daily lives. They selectively use passages from the bible that benefit their argument of the day.

Now having said that I don't claim any exceptional knowledge of the bible. But I live the way my parents raised me. Basically by a few simple rules. Treat others as you would want them to treat you. You are your brother's keeper. Judge not lest ye be judged.

I don't go to church on Sunday to be told how to live. I try every day live by my mom and dad's rules.

Here is the "Choosen One" in a recent interview

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2019/08/trump-proves-hes-not-the-chosen-one-in-resurfaced.html

[yonder]

122. Same here, generally.

But more and more I'm having trouble with the "judge not lest ye be judged" part.

[rpannier]

32. Bob Jones University used to forbid mixed-race dating

Some obscure passage they attributed to Moses, where Moses tells the Israelites not to date non-Israelites

[Blue_true]

141. I read that Liberty University frowns on interracial dating.

Why would any fair minded person want their child to go to a place like that?

[rpannier]

148. Wouldn't be surprised

Falwell was a racist, a liar and a jerk

[CCExile]

33. I'm pretty sure Jesus said

that non-white people are only 5/8ths Christian.

[spanone]

34. "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

Mahatma Gandhi

[Newest Reality]

72. Such an accurate observation.

America spawns a fast food, convenient Jesus: McChrist!

[Newest Reality]

77. These miscreants

who use McChrist to support their prejudices have no excuse.

Their Savior never said that, "Thou shalt be stupid, willfully ignorant, complete and utter morons in my name!" and being as child to enter Heaven may just be too deep a metaphor for them to grasp, even, because it does not condone or suggest being a self-important, racist dumb ass for the Kingdom of God.

No, the teaching is to get ye wisdom and be wise as serpents and know what you are doing. I support that and I am not a Xtian, but they seem to denigrate, demean and distort their religion enough to make me think that, not only is it becoming more and more useless and irrelevant, it is teetering on an inflicted obsolescence. After a couple thousand years, the results are in.

So, yeah, forgive them for they know not what they do, and boy oh boy, they don't these days. I do like Buddy Jesus though

[Corgigal]

36. Mrs. Mississippi

would not be against a new kidney, from any flavored human if her organs were failing. If she was smart, which I see no evidence, and could pick the best surgeon or airplane pilot, melanin absorption should not be a top concern.

These humans are just all POS, plus liars.

[Historic NY]

40. I think they have a lawsuit in the making........

Loving v Virginia 1967 as a landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court that struck down all state laws banning interracial marriage as violations of the Equal Protection and Due Process Clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

[Takket]

41. Can't find this place on yelp but here are their google reviews

Be a shame is someone brought their racism to attention and messed up their google ratings.

Search google for: Boone's Camp Event Hall

And click on the reviews tab.

[democratisphere]

48. For some states and many of their citizens there is no hope.

Mississippi and Alabama are just two of the many. Religious beliefs?! Hypocrisy at its finest.

[Nitram]

49. So ironic. Homophobes invented the threat of a "Gay Agenda" as an excuse to discriminate agains gays

In actual fact, they have a "Bigot's Agenda" which allows them to discriminate against anyone based on their twisted version of Christianity.

[TruckFump]

50. I had to check and see where this happened and that it really was not...

...from the Onion or a similar place.

I cannot believe that anyone in today's world would think that a POC, Jesus (assuming he is for real), would object to a "mixed race" marriage. I believe the right to marry outside of one's race was settled long, long ago in Virginia.

What a piece of white racist hate that woman is.

[FailureToCommunicate]

51. Oh brother...

"Dees Boys is Masegenated!"

[Sugarcoated]

117. Says "Video unavailable"

[AllaN01Bear]

53. "i dont want to argue my faith" lame answer for i dont know . hope they sue .

[lonely bird]

54. This situation like the wedding cake decision and the Hobby Lobby decision

Are not based on religious freedom. In each instance no one was prevented from worshipping or believing what they wished.

Here is hoping that this results in what the Pharisaical Right wishes, religion in the public square. Except that it will be delving into doctrine in front of the SCOTUS. It is time to delve into these alleged “deeply held beliefs”. On a side note a corporation cannot have deeply held beliefs because it is not alive. The management of a corporation can have beliefs and thus the management must be queried as regards these beliefs.

Thus either religious beliefs be taken at ending where providing goods and services to the public begins or we have little choice but to venture where the religionists really do not want to go.

[mn9driver]

56. Her "religious" beliefs are not going to help her in this case.

Race is a protected class, and she is operating a public accommodation:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/2000a

Not even the current crop of right wing shitbirds on the Supreme Court will be able to twist the law to allow this.

[NutmegYankee]

66. Sexual orientation was a protected class in other cases. None have gone right.

The SCOTUS is set to undo the entire concept.

[mn9driver]

75. Mississippi has a "religious freedom"law.

It defines the following “beliefs” as being “protected”:

“(a) Marriage is or should be recognized as the union of one man and one woman; (b) Sexual relations are properly reserved to such a marriage; and (c) Male (man) or female (woman) refer to an individual’s immutable biological sex as objectively determined by anatomy and genetics at time of birth.”

It also says this protection is available only to “religious organizations”. Race isn’t mentioned. The law is designed to allow discrimination against LBGTQ couples. It would be nice if an unintended consequence of this is to have the entire law struck down, but there is unfortunately an opening for a narrow decision that avoids that.

But there doesn’t seem to be any doubt that this racist shitheel is going to get smacked down.

[NutmegYankee]

94. What I'm saying is other states HAVE LGBTQ protections along with race, etc.

And even then, like in the Masterpiece Cake case, the "religious freedom" overrode the law once it got to the SCOTUS level. (the state did prosecute and won before appeals to SCOTUS)

Essentially religious freedom is overriding all civil rights protections, even those explicitly in law. It's a dangerous new trend that I expect to get set in stone. A new 21st Century Jim Crow.

[OrwellwasRight]

161. Yes, but there is no federal right to be free from discimination

on the basis of LGBTQ+ status. There is a right to be free from discrimination on the basis of race. And it's black letter law. It's a very different legal question even though morally all forms of such discrimination are reprehensible. Here is a pretty good piece by an ACLU attorney: https://www.religiousfreedominstitute.org/cornerstone/2016/6/30/the-truth-about-religious-employers-and-civil-rights-laws

[TruckFump]

60. Their website and Facebook page are both "unavailable" at this time.

Googled that shit hole and there are a bunch of articles calling them out.

[mercuryblues]

61. To these type of

"Christians" The Bible is like a software agreement. They skip to the end and click on I agree.

[MissB]

68. .

[SMC22307]

62. Booneville, Mississippi. That's where they've spent the years since the Civil Rights Act. (n/t)

[happybird]

64. I'm sure Jesus is so proud

If people are going to claim to be Christian, they need to at least read their freakin' bible. It's hard to believe it's 2019 and Americans are still dealing with this type of racist bs.

[Demovictory9]

70. just racists hiding under the cover of the Bible.

[3Hotdogs]

78. --- should be worth about $25K.

Go for it.

[procon]

79. This is how cristocentric religion will wither and die

in the US. Few people want what this religion is pushing today. Their beliefs have little resemblance to the red letter bible that promotes the teaching of Jesus.

To those rare churchs who still revere and teach his wisdom, be wary those false prophets who will drag you down with them.

[SunSeeker]

91. Bigots are using the code words "religious beliefs" to allow them to discriminate.

They take their cue from Trump.

[SteelSmasher]

92. Leprosy

In Numbers 12:1–16 Moses's sister Miriam and Brother Aaron are upset that he married a black woman, so god afflicts Miriam with a disease that turns her completely white "like snow" (which they refer to as leprosy, but it's probably meant as a generic term).

[questionseverything]

128. ty for this

the bible doesn't teach race hating not even in the old testement

[Iliyah]

93. Doesn't this train of thought also include . . .

McTurtle and wife, Jeb Bush and wife and many more?

[TruckFump]

98. Maybe someone should try and book some kind of party for

Moscow Mitch and his wife?

[NoPasaran]

99. Their "Christian" beliefs suck.

[Brainfodder]

106. So, that's their excuse for racism?

How many really smart people do you know who are openly racist?

My count is still at none, nada, zero, zilch.

[Blue Owl]

109. Well then fuck their event hall

n/t

[mrmpa]

110. The commerce clause of the Civil Rights Act

Congress has the power to regulate commerce “among the several states.” ... Two very important sections (titles) of the 1964 Civil Rights Act were passed using the commerce power. One section prohibits discrimination on the basis of race in places of public accommodation, such as restaurants and hotels.

DUH

[Alwaysna]

112. When someone tells me they're religious

I just assume they're brainwashed!

[Blue_true]

142. I have gotten to the point where I instantly tune people out once

I see that they are wearing religion on their sleeves. I used to differ to them, but I have completely lost respect for them, they use faith as a cudgel to beat down "others".

[LiberalFighter]

119. If they are going to do business they can't discriminate.

They need to conform to the laws and regulations since that is the expectation of being a citizen of the United States or the state they live in. Those entities make it possible for them to have public safety, roads, government services, employees with education, etc.

[Blue_true]

145. The Supreme Court has said they can discriminate if their religious beliefs dictate

that they must. That is the revisionist thinking of modern conservative jurists.

[SCVDem]

120. They are still pissed off over

Loving v Virginia

I hate racists as much as I hate Illinois Nazis.

[uriel1972]

121. I think they are still pissed off...

over emancipation.

[struggle4progress]

123. 'When I call myself a Christian,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone,

'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make a religion mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'who is to be the Supremacist — that's all.'

[Eliot Rosewater]

130. They are OK to do this as long as they do not use my roads, my fire dept, my police

dept or any other PUBLIC facility or service.

But if they use any of that including sidewalks, for instance then they MUST not discriminate.

But, in the world of rump and his followers, that rule will only apply when they want it to.

Because they are not patriots, they are traitors and punks.

[struggle4progress]

124. I'm going to tell God how you treat me

I'm going to tell God how you treat me some of these days
Hallelujah now!

[Beartracks]

125. "I don't want to argue my faith," she said while effectively arguing her faith...

... by canceling a paying customer's event and running her secular business on the precepts of her religion.



She didn't want to argue that point of her faith because there is no basis for it and she couldn't begin to justify the belief.

=======

[Ferrets are Cool]

126. I've never met a "christian" who wasn't a hypocrite. nt

[Blue_true]

146. Same here. The loudest ones are the most hypocritical. nt

[NotHardly]

131. Just get ready for more of these stunts as the President and Pence gear up under

sincerely held religious beliefs... untelling how many snakes you can fit in that poke sack.

[onetexan]

133. it bears repeating: these white Christians conveniently forget that Jesus was a Person of color, and

a Jew. Ironic isn't it?

[Generic Other]

137. Well that certainly put me back in my place!

First time I ever heard anyone say my very being is against her Christian belief.

[chwaliszewski]

143. I refer to them as Hypochristians.

[Brave-newworld]

149. Disgusting

They think they can get away with this in 2019. If I were the couple I'd still check my legal avenues. Fuck that racist scum. I'd sue their ass if it's possible. I wouldn't let that go. You don't violate people's civil rights and expect that to slide.

[stopbush]

151. Fucking xian racists.

[Demovictory9]

153. they've pulled down their facebook page. Gone dark. Not speaking to the press

[lambchopp59]

154. Aw, shucks. Reckon my friends here better get hitched at Pizza Hut down the street then.

But maybe if we all stiffen our wrists nize LaKrazy ChristiaNazi Welch will let us all stop by for Boone's Rootin Tootin Poopin garunteed to give ya gas Chili buffet afterward.

[RhodeIslandOne]

158. Here we go....

I know once the anti-gay baker stuff started, someone would go further.

[The Liberal Lion]

159. I guess they missed that part about loving thy neighbor as thyself

or maybe they just don't love themselves so loving thy neighbor is a completely alien concept.

[Lady_Chat]

162. WTF is wrong with these people?

They have bastardized anything the christian religion should have stood for. What happened to "Love one another as I have loved you"?

[DFW]

167. I was part of a "mixed" wedding

My brother and I had a double wedding, and his wife was/is of "another" race (and definitely NOT Christian).

Good thing we didn't hold it in Mississippi, I guess...........

[edbermac]

168. And she probably voted for the guy who banged a porn star.

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Go figure.

[DIVINEprividence]

169. I am happy I was raised without religion

Now I am free to form my spiritual beliefs based on my own experience and reasoning. It is sad when people are brainwashed at such a young age. If the foundation of your belief system is delusional it means you have essentially been robbed of your free will. All your actions are predicated on a bunch of lies. Find enlightenment and the truth by retreating from untruth as frightening as that might be.

[SidDithers]

170. Some Christians have fucked up beliefs...nt

Sid

[Javaman]

171. just another bigot/racist try to explain away her bigotry and racism by hiding behind the bible. nt

[struggle4progress]

180. "The venue has since apologized in a now-deleted Facebook post."

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-event-hall-mississippi-20190905-o5hkofv37zbrja2dliribc4da4-story.html

Because nothing says "Sorry!" quite like a temporary post on Facebook