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malaise

(268,698 posts)
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 09:16 AM Sep 2019

WTF-34 people died after boat catches fire off California's Santa Cruz Island: officials

Last edited Mon Sep 2, 2019, 06:32 PM - Edit history (1)

https://www.foxnews.com/us/people-killed-boat-fire-california-santa-cruz-island
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At least 34 people have been killed after a boat caught fire off Santa Cruz Island, California, early Monday morning, fire officials have confirmed.

Fox affiliate KTTV confirmed the fatalities. Five people were rescued.


The U.S. Coast Guard said earlier it was coordinating a large rescue effort Monday in response.

KKFX-TV reported that Coast Guard Los Angeles responded to reports of a fully engulfed boat fire off Santa Cruz Island around 5 a.m.
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WTF-34 people died after boat catches fire off California's Santa Cruz Island: officials (Original Post) malaise Sep 2019 OP
I'm watching CNN and no mention of deaths . . . . Iliyah Sep 2019 #1
Here malaise Sep 2019 #4
Omg. What a horrible way to die PCIntern Sep 2019 #2
Horrific malaise Sep 2019 #3
So far just "feared dead" yet to see it confirmed. Agschmid Sep 2019 #5
CNN saying 34 on board, 5 rescued. No confirmation of deaths yet. cwydro Sep 2019 #6
Check the link at $4 malaise Sep 2019 #9
One can only hope the smoke got them before the fire. cwydro Sep 2019 #11
Well if they were sleeping that's possible malaise Sep 2019 #18
Yeah, eventually we'll learn the news. cwydro Sep 2019 #19
I just read it was a diver boat. No mention of oxygen tanks, though. displacedtexan Sep 2019 #7
The link at #4 says diving boat malaise Sep 2019 #10
First thing I thought of when they were saying the fire kept reflashing. MrsCoffee Sep 2019 #15
Divers use air tanks, not oxygen tanks. cwydro Sep 2019 #20
Exactly...compressed air...period. spanone Sep 2019 #21
they can still explode in a fire. mopinko Sep 2019 #29
The boat offered Nitrox, and if I recall correctly, they mixed on-board when I was on another of LongtimeAZDem Sep 2019 #37
There might be Sgent Sep 2019 #25
CNN article indicates that they can't get onboard because the fire keeps flashing up MissB Sep 2019 #8
Before the fire: dalton99a Sep 2019 #12
Local news is not reporting fatalities yet. Glimmer of Hope Sep 2019 #13
Truth Aquatics website for MV Conception Dennis Donovan Sep 2019 #14
Package details: Dennis Donovan Sep 2019 #16
Just hearing on Local 10 that the crew were awake and saved themselves malaise Sep 2019 #24
As I it heard the 5 crew were awake. By the time they realized there was a fire it was impossible to CentralMass Sep 2019 #28
they were likely up and working. they were supposed to set out at 4am. mopinko Sep 2019 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author jberryhill Sep 2019 #26
Tragic and heartbreaking Niagara Sep 2019 #17
Bad headline, they died, they weren't killed MiniMe Sep 2019 #22
Valid point - will edit malaise Sep 2019 #23
Kaiser Soze did it... Volaris Sep 2019 #27
8 known deaths. 4 bodies recovered, 4 seen on the ocean floor. mopinko Sep 2019 #31
ABC-LA reports 25 bodies found - approx. 1AM-EST update KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2019 #32
Too sad malaise Sep 2019 #33
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2019 #34
It's just so sad to lose so many young people malaise Sep 2019 #35
Such a tragic loss DesertRat Sep 2019 #36

PCIntern

(25,480 posts)
2. Omg. What a horrible way to die
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 09:38 AM
Sep 2019

Trapped in a conflagration below decks with infinite water around to put out the fire but the irony...it must have been a horrifying agony for the minutes it took to realize the situation through being burned to death times 34. 😩

malaise

(268,698 posts)
3. Horrific
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 09:41 AM
Sep 2019

Years ago a fire chief told me that most people die from the smoke inhalation long before they burn - that's the only good news but it must still be terrifying.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
5. So far just "feared dead" yet to see it confirmed.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 10:09 AM
Sep 2019

Last edited Mon Sep 2, 2019, 11:13 AM - Edit history (1)

ETA: Seems it was now confirmed, very sad.

malaise

(268,698 posts)
18. Well if they were sleeping that's possible
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 11:39 AM
Sep 2019

I also hope the number of persons killed is less than we're seeing

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
7. I just read it was a diver boat. No mention of oxygen tanks, though.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 10:12 AM
Sep 2019

This is so incredibly sad. 5 crew members rescued.

mopinko

(69,995 posts)
29. they can still explode in a fire.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 01:27 AM
Sep 2019

the people on the boat that picked up the crew said there were repeated explosions.
air is what burns in fires. a big rush of air in a fire is gonna flare.

might have been something else that started the fire, but exploding air tanks would feed it like crazy.

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
37. The boat offered Nitrox, and if I recall correctly, they mixed on-board when I was on another of
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 03:00 PM
Sep 2019

their boats, the Truth. if so, they would have oxygen on-board in quantity.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
25. There might be
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 06:58 PM
Sep 2019

an oxygen tank onboard for first aid, but divers don't use oxygen for breathing -- either standard air, helox, or nitrox.

MissB

(15,803 posts)
8. CNN article indicates that they can't get onboard because the fire keeps flashing up
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 10:22 AM
Sep 2019

after being put out.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
14. Truth Aquatics website for MV Conception
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 10:55 AM
Sep 2019
https://www.truthaquatics.com/conception/



Specifications
Date launched 1981

Where built Long Beach, California

Length 75’-0”(weather deck)

Length overall (LOA) 79’-0”

Beam 25’-0”

Bunk Capacity 46 people maximum, 13 double bunks, 20 single bunks.

Type of Bunk facility Open berthing with pillows, blankets, curtains, and reading lights. Dressing room located in bunkroom.

Mains engines Detroit Diesel 8V92 Turbo DDEC @ 550 HP each

Generators Northern Lights MP55C, 55 KW, 220/110 Volt

Cruising speed 10 Knots

Fuel Capacity 1600 Gallons

Range 880 Nautical miles

Electronics 46 mile radar, VHF Radio, Single Sideband Radio, Video depth finder, Digital depth finder, GPS, Offshore Navigator Computer Program, Underwater Recall, Dive tracker™

Heads 3

Showers 4 (2 on deck, 2 below deck) , fresh hot water

Water capacity 1830 gallons

Galley Outfitted with all appliances necessary for food preparation and is waterproof for divers in wetsuits. Onboard built-in Bar-B-Que.

Galley seating Cushioned and separate chairs.

Sundeck Large upper deck area provides seating and pads for sunbathing.

First Aid Full first aid kit, O2 bottles, and crew is certified annually in CPR and O2 administration.

Lifesaving Rafts and Jackets for 110 passengers

Safety EPIRB (emergency position indicating radio beacon)

Fixed CO2 engine room fire suppression system

Compressors Ingersoll-Rand 10T-2@18 C.F.M.

Ingersoll-Rand 15T-4@21 C.F.M.

Capable of filling to 3500 P.S.I.

Nitrox Available

Live Game Wells Built in in transom for game storage.

Gear Storage Kayak rack for storing kayaks, paddleboards, and surfboards off the deck.

Stern Compartment Used for Wetsuit Drying Room, Game Freezing, Clothes Dryer

Exits Port, Starboard, and Bow exits for easy water entry. Mask rinsers at each exit.

Chase Boat 16 foot Caribe with 40 HP Honda 4-stroke outboard.

Water Boarding State of the art ramp at stern for easy boarding

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Other Islands visited are Catalina, Santa Barbara, San Clemente, San Nicolas, and Cortez Banks.

Cost Individual prices vary depending on charteree. All multi day trips include all meals, snacks, beverages (excluding alcoholic), and
air refills

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Address 301 West Cabrillo Blvd
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Phone 805-962-1127 or 805-963-3564
Fax 805-564-6754
Web www.truthaquatics.com
E-mail info@truthaquatics.com

Bunk Layout

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
16. Package details:
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 11:25 AM
Sep 2019
http://www.worldwidedivingadventures.com/events/labor-day-weekend/

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CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
28. As I it heard the 5 crew were awake. By the time they realized there was a fire it was impossible to
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 08:17 PM
Sep 2019

get below and vice versa. They had the distress call on the news. I believe it was the captain. During the frantic mayday call he said I can't breathe and apparently jumped overboard. I believe the other 4 crew members had already done so. I think the flames had overtaken the pilot house by then. The report mention the crew slept in the main cabin and the passengers below it took the Coast Guard 58 minutes to reach the scene and the boat was burnt to the water line by then. One or more of the crew were injured . They were evacuated for treatment but the captain stayed to assist.



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mopinko

(69,995 posts)
31. 8 known deaths. 4 bodies recovered, 4 seen on the ocean floor.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 01:31 AM
Sep 2019

surprised they are yet saying that they are assumed dead.
the recovered bodies will have to be identified by dna.

maybe they are just waiting to contact next of kin, but it still seems odd.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
32. ABC-LA reports 25 bodies found - approx. 1AM-EST update
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 01:47 AM
Sep 2019
25 bodies located after boat erupts in flames off Santa Cruz Island
Twenty-five bodies have now been located while nine remain missing and five people were rescued after a boat erupted in flames off the coast of Ventura County.

LINK: https://abc7.com/

snips...
The 75-foot Conception was anchored about 20 yards off Santa Cruz Island when the scuba diving vessel caught fire about 3:15 a.m., said Mike Eliason, a spokesman for the Santa Barbara County Fire Department. Multiple agencies responded to the scene, where five crew members who jumped overboard were rescued by a good Samaritan's pleasure craft, according to the U.S. Coast Guard. One of the rescued individuals suffered a broken leg.

The Conception sank in 64 feet of water as firefighters were battling the flames, leaving the bow protruding from the water, officials said.
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Santa Barbara County Sheriff Bill Brown said the situation - a boat fire in the middle of the night, with people trapped at the bottom of a ship - is one of the most difficult operations for rescue crews. "This is probably the worst-case scenario you could possibly have," Brown said. "Fire is the scourge of any ship," he said.

The boat trip was touted as a Labor Day weekend dive trip that started on Aug. 31 and was scheduled to return Sept. 3. There were six crew members on board and one of them is among the missing. Passengers who were in the bottom of the ship were likely sound asleep at the time of the fire, Brown said. The boat was in a remote location and there was limited firefighting capability.


KY........... ..........

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malaise

(268,698 posts)
35. It's just so sad to lose so many young people
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 05:55 AM
Sep 2019

and I doubt that anyone contemplated a fire risk on a diving boat.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
36. Such a tragic loss
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 12:16 PM
Sep 2019

We have friends and family who go out on boats like this on fishing and diving trips. This is so heartbreaking.

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