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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDorian: I have lived on the Atlantic coast in central Florida for 25 years.
I cannot possibly convey how absolutely bizarre this feels.
If you look at a map of Florida and spot that narrow triangle jutting into the Atlantic about halfway down the east coast of the state...that's the Space Coast (Brevard county). That's where I am.
Although the state of Florida is routinely threatened by tropical systems, it's actually not an annual event for all Floridians. I have seen comments from folks saying they wouldn't want to live somewhere that had to deal with this year in and year out. The truth is, we don't - well, we haven't. For example, Hurricane Michael devastated the panhandle last year, but didn't generate any storm prep in my community. The west coast of Florida and the panhandle aren't impacted by this. We're big. It would take you 12 hours and 45 minutes drive time (no stops and no traffic!) to get from Pensacola to Key West. Seven hours from Tallahassee to Miami.
In the quarter century living here, I've had 8 years where I've experienced tropical systems. And tropical storms are not much more than an extended heavy rainstorm - often without the thunder and lightning typical of thunderstorms. I've evacuated from some threats and ridden out others. I went from Tropical Storm Faye in 2008 to Hurricane Matthew in 2016 without any threatening tropical systems that I can recall.
This storm is insane! The joke around here is that facing a hurricane is like being stalked by a turtle. And that analogy seems woefully inadequate with Dorian. We have been preparing for Dorian since last Wednesday. I will always remember that, because right after my surgeon declared me able to walk again, we went to the shopping plaza next door to get water and non-perishable foods.
In advance of storms like Irma, Matthew, Frances, and Jeanne it became increasingly difficult to find gasoline, water, batteries, generators, etc. in a relatively short amount of time - a couple of days. I popped in to Home Depot this morning for an extension cord and saw an aisle lined with well over 100 generators. No exaggeration! I then went to Publix to buy some fresh food for lunch and dinner today (we've avoided buying anything refrigerated in advance of the storm). They had flats and flats of water. Folks, I cannot tell you how strange it is for these places to have time to re-stock before a storm hits.
We're going nuts. Anyone who is going to evacuate has done so. Anyone staying is hunkered down with nothing left to do to prepare. We're boarded and shuttered up. We have our generators, fuel, water, and food. Shelters are operational. And still it sits there and we tune in to every NHC update to see if we're still inside the cone of uncertainty or not (we are).
We don't know what to expect and are painfully aware that Matthew's shift of a mere 40 miles spared us devastation. We are hoping the models indicating a north turn are correct, but know there is no guarantee the storm won't stay on the western most edge of the cone. I don't mean to imply it's a state of anxiety. Not remotely. This may be the most calm and orderly a pre-hurricane experience any of us in this area have had. And that is unnerving in its own right.
I've never see anything like this. Damn that Chinese hoax!
BigmanPigman
(51,582 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)Lochloosa
(16,061 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,582 posts)was talking about the psychological impact this sloooooooooooow mooooooooooving storm is causing residents.
A family friend moved to Palm Beach only a few months ago and evacuated last Fri. Now she doesn't if she should return home or not. I would be going crazy if I were there.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)which route and when? It's crazy.
If I were them, I'd be tempted to head down to somewhere like Naples tomorrow via I-75 and then cross the state to go back to Palm Beach on Wednesday.
But who knows.
The financial impact to people in Florida is certainly an issue. No everyone can afford to evacuate for a freaking week!
The psychological impact really isn't so much anxiety as boredom and just wanting it over and done with so we can get on with our lives. We're not fearing the devastation such as the Bahamas endured, we just want this "life on hold" feeling to go away.
Cha
(297,029 posts)We actually did live through Hurricane Iniki in on 9/11/92, though.. and were lucky enough not to have to leave our home.
BigmanPigman
(51,582 posts)9 1+1 92
I would be able to remember that even with old age effecting my brain cells.
Cha
(297,029 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Iniki
We were at Poipu Beach the day before and it was so hot and muggy like the doldrums.. we were speculating if there was going to be a hurricane! And, sure enough at 5am ish the next morning the Island wide siren blew
5 years to rebuild.. 3 months to get back our electricity.
BigmanPigman
(51,582 posts)Good thing Cat 5 storms didn't exist...
Cha
(297,029 posts)always heard back then that Iniki was a 5 and learning lately it was only a 4.. we were lucky in that respect.. seeing what Cat 5 Dorian is doing to anything in its path.
BigmanPigman
(51,582 posts)Did you ever think you would be saying that!?!
Cha
(297,029 posts)worse.. I see that now.
Fun Fact.. Steven Spielberg had blankets and supplies flown in afterwards.. he had been filming Jurassic Park there.
BigmanPigman
(51,582 posts)I wonder if Coppola did that for the Philippines after a typhoon destroyed the set and area while filming Apoc Now?
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)Fla Dem
(23,620 posts)are enduring. At least 24 hours or more dealing with a Cat 4 or Cat 5 storm. Psychological impact, along with the loss of property, and probably death of love ones or friends. Major tragedy.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)When the gentleman in the Weather Channel studio choked up yesterday after an update I lost it. You could see him mentally processing the new information as he was speaking. He reminded viewers that people in the Bahamas were going to be experiencing F2-F3 tornadic conditions for not the seconds or minutes of a tornado touchdown, but for hours on end. I cannot imagine what that extended terror does to a mind and body. And that's before dealing with the aftermath.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Thank you!
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)malaise
(268,844 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)Hey, if you can't laugh, right?
malaise
(268,844 posts)for sure
You stay safe you hear!
Lochloosa
(16,061 posts)Just not this big. Great map by the way.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)it had tracks, statistics for every hurricane from 1900 on. I also inputted every storm that I followed. It was great for comparing previous storms to current ones. I can remember many doing some strange things, even doing a 360 and hitting the same area twice. I upgraded the program to pc back in the day but its on the the old square disks so may need to find it again.
Baitball Blogger
(46,697 posts)And I know what you're saying. I left for gas this morning and my husband cautioned me because we were falling below three quarters tank, but I left anyways and found a place that had no lines. Got in and out. Then I came home and told my husband and he took the second car that was at a quarter tank and got gas just as easily.
This never happens before a hurricane.
obamanut2012
(26,049 posts)And seeing if it will just be a bad, rainy day or if it will not jog quite as north and slam us. Same -- I was in Publix this morning because I wanted salad, and they are fully stocked and I had no line. All of the local places were open for food, and all their outdoor bars were open and full at 11:15 am. All of the transplants are still freaking out some, but the rest of us are just exhausted with this, and want it over. Very different vibe than Irma.
I'm south of you in PBC, and keep going in and out of the damned cone!
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... back up to that part.
Right after WHAT?
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)Long story that involves being a student athlete once upon a time, unfortunate genetics, a quack surgeon, and a series of surgeries to fix what the quack did in 2011.
Got good news actually. It was anticipated to involve a bone graft from my tibia with a 10-12 week cast recovery. But on the table, the surgeon (the one I trust) found slightly less disintegration than anticipation and compatible cadaver tissue on hand in the hospital. So I didn't have to have the graft.
Four week non-weight bearing for the hardware to set and then another eight weeks in a post-op shoe for the donor bone tissue (think ground up bone and blood to make a kind of mortar) to harden.
Bet you didn't want that much detail, did you?
P.S. You should also know I have a rather sick sense of humor. I've been hoping the donor was a Trump voter. Because it means a) I am literally walking on a Trumpist, and b) they aren't around to vote for him in 2020. Oh the things you think when in pain and on strong meds.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I found a compatible cadaver years ago, but my second marriage is much better.
A compatible cadaver?
Good golly, you skip over the best parts every time.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)I've been watching stand up comedian specials on Netflix, HBO, Amazon, etc. for the last few days. I was starting to think about a second career. I can make people laugh.
But no, you have me beat, and in writing too!
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)Don't run or swim until cleared in about 8 weeks. But if a hurricane is chasing you, feel free to commandeer a golf cart for your evacuation.
In all seriousness, I can't believe I forgot to ask about swimming. He demonstrated the gait I have to use whilst walking in the post-op shoe, but didn't mention swimming. Definitely texting him that question when the storm is over!
yardwork
(61,585 posts)MRDAWG
(501 posts)you can't live in both places unless you have two homes.
obamanut2012
(26,049 posts)Just like I live on the Atlantic coast of SOFL. She lives in Brevard, she is on the Atlantic, or East Coast, of Central FL.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)I've lived here for half of my life. I'm reasonably certain I live in a coastal county and in central Florida in a single home.
Cheers!
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,309 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)barbtries
(28,787 posts)i just watched an update that said it is just sitting and destroying the Bahamas basically for another 12 hours. Nobody really seems able to predict the actual path, how strong it will be when/if it hits land here, when to be ready for it. I'm in NC but not on the coast; have an uncle in Wilmington.
i actually just asked my son if he can remember ever a hurricane like this one, then read your post. Stay safe!
obamanut2012
(26,049 posts)nor unusual. It isn't typical, but it happens quite a bit.
barbtries
(28,787 posts)both kind of stalled, but don't remember such uncertainty in the forecasts. I've been looking at the bulletins all day, watching videos about it.
The last one for my area stated that the risk is increasing that we will be affected. but the date keeps being pushed back. at any rate we will certainly not be experiencing the worst of it. I wish it would move off the Bahamas now.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)paleotn
(17,901 posts)No hurricanes made landfall in FL the 5+ years we were there. A year after we left, central FL got hit.
PennyK
(2,302 posts)I'm also in Brevard and this will be my third big storm. I am SO ready for this waiting game to be over! We were thinking of going to Lakeland to stay with friends there, but if the current forecast holds (downgrade to Cat 3 as it passes us), we'll just stay put and eat all the food I've stockpiled.
I've been making and stashing ice, cooking the meat and chicken in my freezer and re-freezing the cooked food, prepping the house, packing just in case, following the updates, obsessively recharging my phone...I've had enough of it!
I have anxiety/depression, and this really is hard for me to deal with.
Let It End!
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)mcar
(42,287 posts)in Citrus County, north of Tampa. And you are so right. We went through Andrew in '92, moved to where we are now.
Last week, gas was running out, grocery stores were being stripped bare. I went to Publix this morning and they were fully stocked, including water. We are out of the cone, but after Irma, it was a few weeks before we had full access to groceries.
I have never experienced anything like this. Stay safe, PP!
Cha
(297,029 posts)I was just telling BigmanPigman about us going through Iniki on 9/11/92.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=12431986
Glad you made through!
Andrew was quite an experience. We lived in NW Dade County so didn't take the brunt of it. But, I have never before or since heard wind like that. It was terrifying.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)Princess Turandot
(4,787 posts)I set it for 30 minute intervals for 15 hours: it looks like it's just whirling in place. It should be just 40 minutes behind; it shows the gorgeous GOES-East satellite imagery in this view. (SLIDER stands for Satellite Loop Interactive Data Explorer in Real-time. It was created by Colorado State with assistance from NOAA agencies)
If it loads, but doesn't run, click play on the top of the left panel. You can also use the arrows next to the play button to advance the imagery. (It might not run on older systems.)
https://rammb-slider.cira.colostate.edu/?sat=goes-16&z=4&im=30&ts=3&st=0&et=0&speed=230&motion=loop&map=1&lat=0&opacity%5B0%5D=1&hidden%5B0%5D=0&pause=20190902221018&slider=-1&hide_controls=0&mouse_draw=0&follow_feature=0&follow_hide=0&s=rammb-slider&sec=full_disk&p%5B0%5D=geocolor&x=10200&y=5364
Ligyron
(7,622 posts)I could speed it up in a loop np even with Windows 7.
Damn eye wall just jumping around pounding the crap out of Grand Bahama.
Not fair
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,309 posts)Let's hope it's running out of energy.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)By the time it arrives, people are going to be stir crazy.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Today went shopping for clothes. And with a hurricane a few hundred miles off the coast! Im in Southeast Lake County just west of Orlando.
Today would have been a great day to hit the theme parks!
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)The only place open at a local shopping area this afternoon around 2:00 was World of Beer. My husband would have been right there with you at the breweries. He is a home brewer and loves to check out breweries. Feel free to recommend some in the west Orlando area.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)They make lots of sours and Farmhouse styles along with the expected stouts, Browns and IPAs. One we drove to yesterday. A 40 minute drive for us. WOB is ok, and we have one in Clermont, but prefer my cash going to local joints.
Good luck over there looks like you are going to get way worse than us. But Irma really smacked us good as my new roof attest.
Funny how sanguine we become to these things as people all over the US think we are panicked. But here, except for the recent residents it is kind of business as usual.
If things go to hell for you over there give me an IM. Ive got a chainsaw I know how to use and lots of vacation days. I know your on the Injured Reserve right now. The only upside to hurricanes is how the people pull together.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)The owner of our local WOB does a great job of making the establishment a community place. I've worked with him on a couple of trivia night fund raisers for a youth sports organization. He has customer appreciation days throughout the year where he himself mans a grill on their patio to provide food. This is one that doesn't have a kitchen, so they allow you to bring in your own food if you want. I've been to WOBs in other locations that definitely have a more corporate feel to them. Fortunately, our area also has a couple of locally owned microbreweries that are fun to go to. Intracoastal has a beer garden they have developed really nicely over the years.
Appreciate the offer of the chainsaw assistance if necessary. DU really is a great community.
mcar
(42,287 posts)He lives in Orlando. He and his GF like to visit different breweries.
yardwork
(61,585 posts)Talitha
(6,579 posts)yardwork
(61,585 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)yardwork
(61,585 posts)I love this thread.
yardwork
(61,585 posts)CaptainTruth
(6,582 posts)Thankfully it looks like we're dodging the Dorian bullet.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Since we sit around 60 miles from either coast, unless Dorian sweeps inland some, we won't get much more than some wind and lots of rain.
You are right about Florida, it is something like 700+ miles tip to tip, New York City to Atlanta is around 850 miles.
On edit. I read that there is a bar near you that is vowing to stay open.
Ligyron
(7,622 posts)Run that same distance north from Pensacola and you cross the whole rest of the country to mid Michigan.
Watching the local station as they alert us and track on each individual feeder band entering Palm Beach County.
They going to do this all night we wonder?
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)That storm is slow moving, I can likely outrun it running on my hands. You really don't want something like that moving right over your area like it did the Bahamas.
I went shopping today, some hard rain. I noticed some harder wind about one and a half hour ago. So far things are orderly, lots of people out at the grocery store, but no wild scenes.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)Heard of it, never been there.
If the 5:00 a.m. modeling holds, I'm not sure we'll have much more than some wind and lots of rain here....some time between now and the end of the month.
bucolic_frolic
(43,115 posts)Building energy, to be released. The longer it stays where it's at without doing what NHC predicts, the more likely it's going to do something else.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)Marcuse
(7,463 posts)localroger
(3,622 posts)...but I actually laughed at that. Well done, and be safe.
mopinko
(70,067 posts)they are in europe right now. i'm not sure when they are supposed to return, but they have been there for about 10 days.
probably not going to get hit unless something strange happens.
but not sure how/when they can come home w airport closures, etc.
it's a packaged tour, so i dont think they can just change their flights and hang out.
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)in another community. Things are calm here. I hope they get home safely.
mopinko
(70,067 posts)i thought they were still there, cuz they were still posting fb pics. lol.
just in time to get soaked, but at least they got home.
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)tomorrow is supposed to be the worst day for us, but still not that bad.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)That was good reading. I'm giving it to my husband now.
maptap22
(67 posts)I am hunkered down on Satellite Beach. My first southern hurricane. I am new here from the Boston area.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)Just over the causeway. My youngest goes to Satellite High. Welcome to the Sunshine State!
voteearlyvoteoften
(1,716 posts)Were still waiting.... ⏰
Looking at the Bahamas and imagining what could have been.
Talitha
(6,579 posts)Reminds me of how long it took for them to bury George Bush.
BootinUp
(47,135 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)Still going on, but nothing worse than a particularly blustery rainy day.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Pretty nasty there Id imagine.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)We got TS force winds and decent rain. Not many power outages in the county. My power didn't so much as flicker.
We were extremely lucky. Stayed 95 miles off the coast.