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Poway: AR-15
Aurora: AR-15
Dayton: AR-15
Odessa: AR-15
Orlando: AR-15
Parkland: AR-15
Las Vegas: AR-15
Tree of Life: AR-15
Sandy Hook: AR-15
Umpqua CC: AR-15
Waffle House: AR-15
Texas Church: AR-15
San Bernardino: AR-15

[redstatebluegirl]

1. I went out and looked at the twitter feed for this one.

The gunhumpers are all talking about "cars kill people". Well, cars are more regulated than guns are. You have to be a certain age to drive, you have to pass a test and you are retested every 4 years. If you cannot prove you can drive safely you don't get a license. You have to get a license for your car, in some states it requires a safety inspection every year. Nothing like that for guns.

[StarryNite]

2. Cars have a purpose other than killing.

Yes, people die in car accidents, they also die falling off ladders. But for gun humpers to compare cars to guns is ridiculous.

[warmfeet]

46. What a very odd thing to say.

Cars have absolutely no purpose in killing. There purpose is transportation, solely.

But, the similarity between guns and cars is quite clear. They are both, potentially, deadly weapons if misused. Both need to be regulated by our central authority, the Federal Government.

Virtually all gun humper's I have ever communicated with would agree, wholeheartedly, with your viewpoint. How odd.

I often use the similarities between guns and cars to argue in favor of gun control. Dangerous things need to be regulated. Logical, not odd at all.

[Pacifist Patriot]

3. And in some states you're required to carry liability insurance.

The car analogy is so freaking bad, but still they persist.

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4. You can't drive in Tennessee legally without insurance.

[Pacifist Patriot]

5. Same in Florida.

The fines can be steep and repeat offenders end up with a suspended license. Being caught driving on a suspended license is a great way to go straight to jail.

[dchill]

12. And Pennsylvania.

[cannabis_flower]

24. And Texas

[SergeStorms]

28. And New York.

BOY, do we have to pay for insurance! Close to $1000 a year for liability and collision insurance.

[WinstonSmith4740]

33. And Nevada.

I think it's become pretty much the rule in this country, but there may be a couple of states that don't require it.

But the whole gun=car thing is ridiculous, same as their argument that people overeat using forks, and somehow a fork is the same as a gun. But what do we expect? Look at who they believe. It's not like they're capable of rational thought. They get their talking points from Fox/Trump and run with it until they're told to move on to another stance.

I've always thought this kind of explains the RW thought process:

https://avionod.wordpress.com/2009/04/06/and-then-a-miracle-happens/

[mercuryblues]

13. Ok, let's treat guns, like cars then.

At 16, you are allowed to get a license to drive a car. In order to do that, you are required to have a permit for 6 months. During that time you are only allowed to drive, under adult supervision. You are required to drive x amount of hours, and have an adult sign off that yes indeed they accomplished that. The next step is to go to a driving school for formal instruction. At all driving schools they have a drunk driving class. For the purpose of gun ownership this can be a mass shooting class, showing the carnage a gun can do to a person.

Next step is taking a written exam and driving exam at MVD. If you fail, you start all over again.

If you pass, you get your license. Most likely you will be driving a car in your parents name and insured by them. When a teen driver is added to the policy, it jumps up. If the kid gets a ticket, it skyrockets. But in the case of gun permits, it should be if the person misuses it or "accidentally" fires it, shoots someone, the license is revoked. If the violation is serious enough, you get arrested and have a trial.

If you have a medical problem that is considered to dangerous to drive a car, you can't get a license.

Every 2 years it has to be renewed. Every year your insurance policy has to be renewed. If there are points against your license, your premium skyrockets. Sometimes to the point of not being able to afford insurance. By law, you must have insurance to drive. You see if you can not follow these simple rules, you are deemed too irresponsible to drive a car and the license is taken away.

Cars and car safety are regulated by the government. Think seatbelt laws, broken tail lights, MPG's, tires, how fast they can go, and more.

I say if they want to make the comparison, let them. We regulate cars and driving them more than guns.

[Towlie]

26. An insurance requirement could prompt insurance companies to require mental exams.

Since Congress can't outlaw guns due to the highly questionable but official interpretation of the Second Amendment, yet the amendment clearly specifies "well-regulated", let our profit-driven capitalist system compel regulation via the insurance industry. Where money is involved there's plenty of impetus for that! No proof of mental stability, no gun insurance policy, therefore no gun.

[needledriver]

38. Great! Let's make cars and guns equal.

My state gun license and registration and insurance would be good in all 50 states. I could take my firearms anywhere in the US and use them for any legal purpose with no restrictions. My car license lets me drive everything from a two cylinder economy car to a sixteen cylinder 200 + mph supercar, so my gun license should let me shoot anything from a bolt action single shot to the fastest firing fully automatic firearm. Nobody bans cars because they have cosmetic features like spoilers and racing stripes, so we can stop banning cosmetic features of firearms like pistol grips and bayonet lugs, and it would be silly to ban a car if it had over a ten gallon tank, so we can get rid of bans on magazines over ten rounds. Just like my driver's license my gun license would permit me to me own and operate as many firearms as I care to afford. If I want to upgrade to drive big rigs or motorcycles, I take the course and pass the test and I get the endorsements on my license, just like if I want to upgrade to breech loading cannon or destructive devices. And - if I don't use my car on public roads and use it on private property only, I don't need to register it, so if I only use my firearms on private property I don't need to register them, either. And since the NRA is the largest provider of firearms insurance, requiring insurance for gun owners would put more money in the NRA's pocket.

Is this really what you want?

[IndyOp]

39. +1 Government buys from all who sell. Jail time for those have them after the buyback period. (nt)

[mercuryblues]

40. You don't think the government regulates

gas tanks? Yes they do. It also regulates the fuel you put in it and how fast the fill rate can be. There are also speed restrictors on cars.

As for insurance? How many mass shootings before the NRA has to raise everyone's insurance to cover the pay outs? I have 4 vehicles in my driveway. I have to insure each and everyone separately. Not only that, the premiums for each depend on the type of vehicle.

[Caliman73]

41. Insurance does not typically cover criminal or intentional acts.

That would be a sticking point with insurance.

[Wounded Bear]

18. I'm pretty sure that is universal...

not only all 50 states, but probably in all civilized countries.

[Pacifist Patriot]

32. Probably

I remember when some states didn't have the requirement, but that was some years ago. I would imagine they all do now. Just the details are different.

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37. oddly it's not all 50 states....

scroll down to...Requirements by state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_insurance_in_the_United_States

[soldierant]

42. I retired in 2011, but for all the time I spent

working in the insurance field, the ONLY state which did not require vehicle liability insurance was South Dakota. Maybe we really don't need two Dakotas.

[Paladin]

22. The gun militants never, ever win the guns vs. cars comparison.

Yes, many more lives are lost in car wrecks than mass shootings---but the ratio of active car usage (actual driving) vs. active gun usage (actual shooting) in the U.S. is probably something like 10,000,000:1, every single day. There is no excuse for the amount of gun violence in this country. None whatsoever.

[NastyRiffraff]

48. It's rare that one car can kill multiple people

Yes, it can and does happen, but a car killing over say, 5 people is rare. And that's almost never because the driver intended it. Heather Heyer in Charlottesville was a tragic exception, but much more often it was because it was a stupid, and awful, mistake. And even then, one person was killed although multiple were injured.

Thankfully, the killer didn't have an AR rifle.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

6. send that to Abbott for defending AR availability

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7. Done!

[Hermit-The-Prog]

27. good on ya! Gov Greg Abbott needs push-back

He said in a news conference after the Midland-Odessa murders that we should remember that not all mass shootings use an AR.

Putin sure bought a lot of puppets through NRA, Fox, Limbaugh and 'social media' disinformation.

[Johnny2X2X]

8. We are capable of categorizing guns

The gun nuts always respond with things like, "how are we going to know which guns are assault rifles? You all have no idea about guns." We are perfectly capable of regulating guns just like we regulate hundreds of thousands of other products. You simply get input from experts, input from lawmakers, and input from gun makers to decide which guns are the most capable of mass killings. It's not hard to do at all.

We classify and regulate things a lot more complex than guns all the time. This is not rocket science, you get the right people in a room and set some criteria, and when a new gun is manufactured, the manufacturer has to submit its design to the regulating agency, just like you have to do now.

[Lonestarblue]

11. Let's go back to the intent at the time the 2nd Amendment was passed.

I’m fine with everyone who wants a gun to have a single-shot musket.

[Wounded Bear]

19. And prove membership in a "well regulated militia"...

Beer swilling gun nut weekend warrior bullshit don't count.

[Paladin]

23. Brace yourself.

The pro-gunners are going to nail you with their "O.K., I guess you'll have to turn in that computer for a quill pen" response.

You'll get used to it, after a while.

[RainCaster]

30. Are the gun nuts offering to give up Twitter & Reddit for a quill pen?

I would be happy with that.

[Paladin]

34. Beats me. Why don't you ask them? (nt)

[RainCaster]

35. I never waste my time on such people or groups

I was not aware that they offered the silly quill pen defense.

[Paladin]

36. Yeah, the quill pen thing is a regular in their verbal arsenal.

And hats off to you for not wasting your time---as I have, over the years.

[Aussie105]

50. Would that be

flintlock or percussion cap style?
Makes a huge difference in the firing rate!

Would you be required to mix the powder from basic ingredients, and cast your own shot or bullets?

Would the barrel need to be smooth or rifled bore?

Owned a Kentucky long rifle replica once. Barrel flex made it inaccurate over more than 10 yards. But the noise and smell were authentic.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

29. base the law on capability of kills per minute

Doesn't matter if it's firing lead, coconuts, scrap Pintos or energy beams -- how many times per minute can it deliver a lethal blow?

1 shot - deer. 2 shots - maybe deer. 3 shots - no deer. Hunters can do just fine with single shot rifles and shotguns; sometimes it's handy to have a 3 shot hunting tool.

Semi-automatics and high capacity magazines are for killing people, and therefore should fall under the "well-regulated militia" beginning of the 2nd Amendment.

[yellerpup]

9. Assault weapons are not defensive weapons.

Citizens can have defensive weapons to protect themselves and their families. (If that makes them feel better) NO ONE NEEDS AN ASSAULT WEAPON.

[Hoyt]

10. Yeah, but gunners -- even some here -- gotta be prepared for roving bands of 25 home invaders.

And don't forget how much fun it is to go to a range and plew plew plew at targets resembling people.

And then, there are all those gunners who just couldn't resist gun marketeers' ads like this:


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This is the style rifle used at Sandy Hook to murder a bunch of innocent children.

[dalton99a]

15. Yep. It was an effective marketing campaign

[Hoyt]

20. A good illustration of why gun manufacturers are a big part of the problem and victims should be

allowed to file suits against them, just like cigarette manufacturers, opioids, etc.

[Ponietz]

31. + products liability law intends to protect the public from inherently dangerous items

Repeal statutory exceptions for death merchants.

[Hotler]

45. I think one would want a 12ga. pump for home invasion.

All you have to do is point, and less chance of a round going through the wall into the neighbors house.

[Hoyt]

47. You'd think, but a shotgun apparently doesn't qualify the gunner for a man-card.

[IronLionZion]

14. Yeah, but gun nuts will say "well actually" "some of those guns were sig sauer or other models"

and similar BS that completely misses the point on purpose.

After an AR-15 was used in Port Arthur Australia, they passed this law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Agreement and haven't had another mass shooting like that since. Somehow, the jackbooted heel of government oppression hasn't come for them like the gun nuts keep imagining.

[dalton99a]

16. +1.

[IronLionZion]

17. Just wait until the Aussie government sends their goons to oppress their people

then you'll see.

Gun nuts keep claiming we'll turn into Venezuela or Syria without military style weapons to defend against our own country's military.

[cannabis_flower]

25. If the government is coming for you..

and you are going to resist with an AR-15, yeah, good luck with that!

[yonder]

44. Yeah, that's the one that gets me.

The humpers somehow believe that their personal firearm(s), will protect themselves, their family or their gun-loving, semi-trained, weekend cohort from a well-trained, professional fighting force. Not a chance. They might be able to slow them down a bit or inflict a few casualties but there is no way they will be able to overpower that professional army.

It just makes me laugh at their romantic notion of how they are "gonna protect ma family and stuff from the gubmint". They've been watching too many TV shows/movies. They'll wind up getting themselves and innocents killed. Just. Like. That.

[trueblue2007]

49. MAYBE WE CAN HIDE FROM THEM UNDER THE BED !!!

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[Demovictory9]

43. yikes. No revolvers