What do Republicans expect after they are blown out in 2020?

[Cary]

Do they expect to be taken seriously?

[maxsolomon]

1. they don't care if they're taken seriously.

they have FoxNews, all of talk radio, and the Filibuster.

what did they expect after 2008? to obstruct the Democratic Agenda until a frustrated, propagandized public put them back in power.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

3. I wonder

how can we break this cycle? We seem to go through it every few years. Republicans abuse power, run the country into the ground, the public gets tired of them, votes a Democrat into the WH and sometimes elects/keeps a majority of Democrats in Congress, Democrats start the hard work of repairing the Republicans' messes and things start to improve until...........Republicans begin massively obstructing and distracting every which way until the federal government basically gets paralyzed, which helps Republicans get back into power, usually in Congress (1994, 2010), which gives them the ability to harass the Democratic President with endless and fruitless investigations until the Democratic President's term is up and then...........Republican wins the WH, in most cases keeping their Republican Congressional Majority intact and they return to abusing power and running the country into the ground. I would say that this has been going on since the late 1980's, 1990's and it hasn't really changed since.

[Cary]

14. They adapt

We have to vote.

[LonePirate]

30. We break the cycle by ignoring rather than catering to the right wing outrage machine.

When the RW outrage machine fires up again once Dems hold a trifecta (WH, House, Senate) the next time, we should march stronger and faster in pursuit of our agenda instead of trying to compromise with them. We should not listen to them let alone incorporate their views into our agenda.

[maxsolomon]

59. Don't forget that part of the reason the ACA took so goddamn long

was our own party. specifically the likes of Sen. Max Baucus, of the under-1 million residents Great State of Montana.

[LonePirate]

60. Yes Baucus and Lieberman, both doing the bidding of insurance companies.

[stopdiggin]

45. you break this cycle by building (and then supporting) a structure

As long as Ds are concentrating on, and content with, winning the White House every two or three elections cycles ...

We really need to win the down ballot stuff (statehouses, governors, States Attorney, City Council) and you do that with local organizations, fed and supported by a national one. How do you stop gerrymander and voter suppression schemes? You win the statehouse! And the AG office! How do you win local elections? By identifying, and then funding if necessary, new local talent. With an organization!

[Cary]

12. Except:

Put yourself in their place (their being the Republican establishment).

1. Their ideology cannot appeal to minorities. It was never designed to appeal to any demographic other than white people. Tbey kind of acknowledged that in their 2012 post mortem but then they never were able to muster anything.

2. Obstruction was pure desperation along with voter suppression.

3. Along came Bannon and Orange Hitler, tapping into a demographic that was previously disaffected, to supplement their dying demographic. And why not accept Putin's help?

It was a perfect storm amd just enough to win by a small margin. It will not be repeated as 2018 proved. We will turn out and they know it.

But what choice do they have? Moderate? Become reasonable partners in governing our nation?

To do that they have to become Democrats.

I think they do care. They have no plan.

[Cary]

46. Cheating is a strategy

Know your enemy. Discussing isn't "framing." Yes, they cheat. Our counter-strategy has to be to turn out in numbers so large that they cannot cheat. Then when we have the power we can punish the cheaters.

[DetlefK]

2. They will demand that Democrats return to bipartisanship and civility.

"It's time to move on! We need to heal our country and for that the Democrats must renounce partisanship and work together with us."

[TheRealNorth]

4. And the media will parrott all the healing and moving on nonsense

[DetlefK]

10. While making sobby stories how the Trump-voters are the real victims here.

"First they were tricked into voting for Trump! And now the Liberals are blaming them for Trump!"

[dalton99a]

11. +1. The media will repeat their bullshit

[Paladin]

13. I bet that little piece of shit, Chuck Todd, already has the script written. (nt)

[Cary]

49. They expect this to work?

WE, THE PEOPLE have to put aside our petty bickering. It seems to me that job Number 1 has to be to get the filthy money out of politics.

Money is not speech. Buying politicians is bribery, full stop.

Make all elections federally funded.

[Volaris]

58. at which point they need to be told in no uncertain terms, in private and in public,

To fuck right off. Bi partisian this time means you're gonna help us pass the good legislation that is actually of some benefit to the Most Of Us, and if you do not, we will abolish the damned 60 vote threshold, and then pass it anyway without you.

[still_one]

5. I hope you are right, that they are "blown out in 2020", but I sure wouldn't take that for granted,

given the fact that the electoral college determines the Presidency, and the Senate is far from a sure thing

[Cary]

15. I don't advocate complacency

I don't see them repeating in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, or Michigan. Florida and Ohio, probably blue.

But that isn't my point. I think they fell into Orange Hitlerism but it is a roach motel.

[still_one]

37. I know. Florida and Ohio will be very challenging.

[Cary]

39. But that is beyond my opening post, Still

My question is a hypothetical. I think the money people just expect to keep on pounding the "libertarian" schtick. Republicans expect to keep taking their bribes.

[still_one]

40. I agree with you Cary

[FakeNoose]

6. After this the entire Party is done - really done

[Cary]

16. The diver is too talented.

And it should be a steaming, hot turd.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

7. Whatever it is, it's for damn sure every last one of them will be lockstep on board with it.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

8. Republicans want to be elected, but not Govern.....

THAT is who they are.

[Cary]

17. Raw power grabbers

Which is really what fascism is.

[jalan48]

9. Four years ago we were talking the imminent demise of the Republican Party as well and yet

the Democratic Party is the one closing its offices in South Dakota today.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212433117

[mcar]

18. They will have a come to Jesus moment

and become born again deficit hawks. And, they will suddenly become concerned about ethics in government.

And the media will let them get away with it.

[Cary]

19. They expect to go back, no consequences?

Pretend Orange Hitler never happened?

[mcar]

20. My guess is they, and the media,

will tag Dotard as an anomaly and not representative of their wonderful, moral, family values party.

And they will get away with it, I fear.

[Cary]

21. WE, THE PEOPLE must not allow that.

[mcar]

26. We need to let the media know

If they try this crap, that we will not accept it.

[Cary]

28. Consolidation is a problem.

[Cary]

23. Maybe this is a good reason not to impeach, as Nancy said?

Maximum repudiation can only come after a big 2020 victory.

Of course the waiting and uncertainty do cause stress.

[mcar]

27. It might be

I can't figure out all the pros and cons of it.

[Cary]

29. Me neither which is why I am thankful for Nancy Pelosi

I trust her.

[mcar]

33. Agree completely!

[Johnny2X2X]

22. Dems need to guarantee the right to vote

Win in 2020, hold all 3 branches and then go full scorched earth to protect our Democracy permanently.

[Cary]

24. If have learned anything from Orange Hitler it is that ...

... "permanency" is an illusion.

Never give up. Never surrender. Never be complacent.

[RhodeIslandOne]

25. They believe in Vlad.

Vlad will save them again, just like he did in 2016.

[CTyankee]

31. They will become Joe Scarborough Independents!

Joe, of course, will take credit for re-inventing the Repuke party that he abandoned to keep his virtue.

Or something...

[Cary]

35. I think you have to look at the money people.

[vlyons]

32. They will find some new divisive cultural issue, plus all the old ones

Fear of "the other," abortion, not-really-American, white power -- those have worked decades. They will continue to exploit them.

[Cary]

34. The question is: what do they expect after they get blown out?

So you think that they expect to go back to business as usual, as if Orange Hitler didn't happen?

That is a reasonable guess but I don't see how that works. But I don't have the answer. I am thinking about it. Thanks.

[Cary]

36. I notice that so far no one has suggested that...

... they expect to keep digging Orange Hitler's hole.

[Runningdawg]

38. They expect nothing less than civil war - it's why they elected Trump

[Cary]

41. Some clearly do and have said so

[standingtall]

47. I cannot wait for repukes to turn on Trump

How many days after Trump losing the election will it take Rush Limpballs to attack orange Hitler? On the grounds Orange Hitler was not conservative enough?

[Cary]

48. Oh, I hear you that!

Please please

[Joe941]

50. After they lose they will give advice on what the winner needs to do.

They will also try to pin their ruined economy on the winner even though everyone knows the economy is a lagging indicator not a leading one.

[Cary]

56. Good point

[randr]

52. Since Buckley died they have been rudderless

and now no one is at the helm.
Floundering idiots.

[Cary]

55. A dangerous, rudderless ship.

[Bonx]

53. How big of a blowout are we expecting?

Bigger than last time?

[Cary]

54. I didn't say that we were expecting a blow out.

Please read my OP. I look forward to your thoughtful answer.

[Bettie]

57. They expect Democrats to treat them

as if they are the majority party, allowing them to set and move the agenda in any direction they wish.

In the Senate, if they are in the minority, they will filibuster and put secret holds on everything, vote in a solid block to ensure that no legislation can move...ever.

I hope Democrats treat them with the same regard they have treated our side.

ETA: They will also scream and cry about "Civility" and stuff "being forced down our throats!".