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He was quoted as saying he couldn't pass anything in the Senate, if he did not know whether or not the president would sign it?
No Mitch, that is not right.
You can pass whatever you want. If he vetoes it and sends it back to you, you only need 14 Democrats to over-ride his veto and it passes over his protestations. It would be nice to get him to agree but this is a law that the people need. It is more important than your relationship with Donald Trump.
What's the matter, Mitch?
Did you just forget? Or did you lose your backbone somewhere? You are supposed to be an independent branch of government - not there to serve Donald Trump or any other President.
Show some spine, Moscow Mitch!
SHRED
(28,136 posts)How does he know what the final bill looks like unless he brings it to the floor and they have at it?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,681 posts)He's smart enough to realize that Trump can't be counted on to do what he says he's going to do, and so he doesn't want to risk being left holding the bag when Trump pulls the rug out from under him after he's agreed to a deal. Trump has done that before.
kentuck
(111,079 posts)And he's up for re-election in November 2020, also.
He is depending on the "gun issue" to save him in Kentucky. The coal miners may not be as supportive next time around and he knows it. Guns are the only thing to get them to change their minds.
maxsolomon
(33,316 posts)Everything appears beyond his power, when he has every bit of it as Majority Leader. there might as well not be a Senate.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,407 posts)He doesn't want the Democrats to have any victories and/or Trump to have any embarrassments (which is sort of pointless, since he is already quite the embarrassment and laughingstock of the entire planet, but I digress). There may be other unknown reasons as well.
GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)He's as much a lying gaslighter as is Trump. The Cult just refuses to believe these assholes are lying to them and gaslightning them.
applegrove
(118,622 posts)assault rifles znd any meaningfull legislation the GOP are happy they still have their open wedge issue for the election. Public wants something done so Mitch is pretending he is powerless.
TheRealNorth
(9,478 posts)Before he can give Moscow Mitch the nod to bring it to the Senate Floor.
applegrove
(118,622 posts)TwilightZone
(25,467 posts)He said he won't put up anything in the Senate that the president won't sign.
Won't and couldn't aren't the same thing. He won't put up anything for a vote that he doesn't already know the president will sign into law.
"If the president is in favor of a number of things that he has discussed openly and publicly, and I know that if we pass it, itll become law, Ill put it on the floor, McConnell said."
https://www.rollcall.com/news/mcconnell-no-votes-gun-measures-trump-wont-sign
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Isn't that about the same?
Mr.Bill
(24,282 posts)The house needs the Senate's approval for a bill to become law. The Senate and House do not need the President's approval for a bill to become law. They can over ride the President's veto. The House has no such way to over ride the Senate.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)But he clearly thinks his constituents are that stupid, and they'll believe this cock and bull story because it pisses off the libs.
alwaysinasnit
(5,066 posts)bdamomma
(63,837 posts)how far are you up the arse of the Russians and Trump. You jerk.
malthaussen
(17,187 posts)It's not cowardice, it's not stupidity, it's a convenient excuse for not doing anything. I imagine one should never believe a word that comes from Mr McConnell's mouth unless it is gloating.
-- Mal
Maine-i-acs
(1,499 posts)#moscowmitch should sit out of any legislation affecting the President to avoid an obvious conflict of interest
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LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)He knows the role of both chambers very well, he also knows that illustrating any independence would bring a bevy of Idiot trump's tweets down on him.
Kota
(901 posts)Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)He knows exactly what he's doing and believes it is to his benefit. Knowing his constituency, he's probably right.
PRETZEL
(3,245 posts)he's been playing this game for probably 30years. He most certainly knows which way the wind is blowing at any given time.
However, and it would be oh so nice, for once the wind he's riding on is too strong and finally pushes him off that high horse he's been riding.
Mr.Bill
(24,282 posts)working your way to the position Moscow Mitch holds, the pinnacle of your career, only to spend it kissing a con man's ass in front of the whole nation.
wiggs
(7,812 posts)fighting for their party's existence and to be successful they have to stay together. Mitch has conned everyone just like potus.
If they don't stay together and keep lying and denying reality and protecting their asses, it's mass casualties in the gop...and none of what they are doing has to do with solving problems on behalf of the american people.
Schmice3
(294 posts)Firestorm49
(4,032 posts)eShirl
(18,490 posts)RockRaven
(14,959 posts)Every time he bullshits like that, he's spitting in everyone's face. And still Repukes in KY say "please sir, can I have some more?"
elleng
(130,865 posts)kentuck
(111,079 posts)But, as we can see, he can do nothing if Donald doesn't want it done. That just the way he is - a sniveling, sleazy coward.
procon
(15,805 posts)What compromat do they have on Moscow Mitch? Women, words, wealth? I'm going with money. Where did he get his?
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)Who better to serve as the Republican majority Leader?
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)where that vote that would cause GOP senators in Blue or Purple states to choose between voting with the party and keeping their seat in 2020.
It's also why he was MORE than happy to put the Green New Deal up for a vote before it was ready - so that Democrats would be put in what he saw as a lose-lose voting conundrum - go on record voting against a Democratic penned bill, or vote for something that was clearly not ready for the floor and give the GOP more ammunition that Dems were so extreme they didn't care about the actual workability of any bill so long as it had the word Green in the name. Fortunately, Senate Dems took a third route, and voted "present' and refused to play his game. However, many outside the beltway did take McConnell's bait, and considered voting "present" to be a smack in the face to ANY progressive climate legislation, when it was actually saving the bill...
It also works in reverse - as we saw in the dozens of "repeal and replace" votes. It gave new GOP reps the chance to put that on their voting record, despite having no chance of it ever passing.
This is why Pelosi is holding votes on Democratic-penned progressive legislation that she knows won't get to the Senate floor.
1. She can call out McConnell on his repeated refusal to move forward with them.
2. Votes can go on Dem reps' records, helping them in their next run for congress.
3. Forces GOP reps in swing districts to go on record voting against them.
Pelosi is using the same tool that McConnell is using in the Senate against the GOP in her selection about what does and doesn't go to the floor. She's weighing the positive consequences against possible negative consequences of forcing any vote.
Any vote that would cause Democrats in swing districts/Red States to choose between voting with Democrats and keeping their seat is something that needs to be avoided if at all possible. This is the scenario that the GOP wants, and they were overjoyed when to see what happened during the Kavanaugh confirmation.
Personally, I'm glad she's using Mitch's own ammunition against him.
keithbvadu2
(36,778 posts)When MSNBC host Craig Melvin asked Rep. Ted Yoho (R-Fla.) if it was appropriate for Nunes, the House Intelligence Committee chairman, to meet with a source on White House grounds the day before announcing he had reason to believe the Trump team was subject to incidental surveillance, Yoho insisted it was fine because Nunes works for the president. ... Updated Mar 30, 2017
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/devin-nunes-ted-yoho-trump_n_58dd24b8e4b05eae031dad44