Psychiatrists call for Trump to undergo a full 'neuropsychological evaluation'

[bdamomma]

https://www.alternet.org/2019/09/psychiatrists-call-for-trump-to-undergo-a-full-neuropsychological-evaluation-as-some-his-abilities-seem-to-be-deteriorating/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1363&recip_id=21760&list_id=2

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Psychiatrists call for Trump to undergo a full ‘neuropsychological evaluation’ as some his abilities seem to be ‘deteriorating’




Psychiatrists David M. Reiss and Seth D. Norrholm have written a lengthy analysis of President Donald Trump’s behavior over at Medium in which they conclude the president should undergo a thorough psychiatric evaluation for the sake of American security.

Reiss, who has been a practicing psychiatrist for the past three decades, and Norrholm, who is an Associate Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at Emory University School of Medicine, do not attempt to formally diagnose the president with any specific maladies.



How many more professionals are blaring the red alert sign for this sick sick threat to our country. Again he is threat to himself and a lot of others.

[rampartc]

1. why? he will just buy a psychiatrist

to certify that he is the mostest stable genius ever and the sanest of all presidents. .

[Perseus]

46. Barr and Moscow-Mitch have offered to do the evaluation

They want to make sure it is "fair and balanced", Hannity may also assist as a moderator.

[Sneederbunk]

55. Beware if the psychiatrist looks like Jerry Garcia.

[bdamomma]

2. All his crap will

catch up to him. The medical professionals need to be listened to. And I'm sure that there are many here on DU who work in Psychiatric Hospitals or Services who know the warning signs of a seriously ill person who is struggling with mental health issues.

[matt819]

47. Crap - Catching Up - That's the problem

Some assumptions.

Trump loses in 2020.

Indictments are handed down, federal and state (prob. NY).

Trump's defense is going to be that he's batshit crazy and offer him up to impartial shrinks for assessment. They find that he is indeed batshit crazy.

Will that be the end? Of course not. Trump is batshit crazy now and he craves - absolutely craves - the attention. He will crave the attention after he's out of office, even when he is officially, formally, and professionally deemed to be out of his fucking mind. I hope that once he's out of office and the government purged of his cult followers that "The Media" decide on a complete Trump blackout. No photos, no press converage, no video, nothing. Zero. And nothing on the family members, except reporting on their criminal activities and indictments.

[Perseus]

48. I am waiting for him to go ape like on the movie "Total Recall" when Schwarzenegger

took a woman disguise and the disguise went wrong, it malfunctioned...here is the video:

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The creature will malfunction one of these days and start acting really crazy, out of his mind.

[certainot]

68. he's just got a bad case of sex on the wrong brain

[marble falls]

3. Tell him its to show fake news once and for all how superior his stable genius is.

[dlk]

4. It Obvious for the World to See, Trump's Health Has Broken Down

That’s why he went to play golf instead of flying to Poland or manage the hurricane crisis. It was staged to make him look healthy, when he’s so obviously not.

[Zoonart]

6. I suspect that they can no longer...

reliably prop him up in public..witness yesterday's fiasco. If you watch the full video, the aide to his left has clearly attempted to hide the altered map (and is agitated as can be seen by his expression), by facing it backwards and putting it behind Trump. Then MF45 insists that. he have the map.

The long plane trips wreak havoc with his equilibrium, perhaps causing dizzy spells and a flare up of his dementia.
His empty schedule is proof that they can no longer predict what he will do or say when the cameras are rolling. Also... he hasn't had any of his beloved rallies.

We also have no way of knowing how many hours he actually spends golfing. We only see random still shots, undated and with no time stamp.

Only a matter of time until he publicly face plants... if you don't count yesterday's sharpiegate incident.

[dlk]

10. I Agree, and Suspect that's Why He Canceled His Trip to Poland

Trump’s health is so poor, he couldn’t tolerate the long flight and jet lag, even flying on cushy Air Force One. He’s obviously experienced a mental collapse that’s been apparent in his tweets for some time. The golf photo ops were likely staged to misdirect but Trump is too far gone. Unfortunately, his Republican enablers are determined to prop him up to the bitter end, no matter the cost to our country. We don’t have a functioning president at the moment. As to who is actually running the country at the moment, it’s anyone’s guess.

[Zoonart]

16. That is the multi billion dollar question.

WHO is running the counrty?

[Texin]

19. Miller and Mulvaney, with Ivanka and Jared agitaging on the sidelines.

[Zoonart]

20. A very scary thought.

I suspect that you are right.

[CrispyQ]

26. Whit Barr giving cover, while McConnell stacks the judiciary with young rwnj.

Our problem is much deeper than Trump. He's just the gross nasty pustule that's surfaced to the top.

[Brainfodder]

38. Yup, the poison was spread.

Impeach all of those too or whatever it's called?

[Nay]

24. I fully expect that Trump will be replaced on the ballot with Pence. Maybe through

the 25th Amendment, maybe he will be convinced to resign, maybe he will have a real or faked health problem (not mental illness! No real mayun has a mental illness!). It's becoming apparent to even the most assiduous butt-kissers that he will be unable to do a second term. The question for the Pug Party now is: "do we remove him from the ballot somehow, or do we trust that there are still enough idiot voters to vote for him in 2020, after which we can remove him?"

It's a tossup, really. I think if Pence were to take over this year, enough Pubs would be so relieved that Trump was out that they would vote for Pence just because he looks normal and has the R behind his name. He ISN'T normal, but he looks normal. And Pence on the ballot may mean that there's a chance the Pubs will choose a woman for VP, which would excite interest among Republican women.

However, if they think Trump will still have the votes for 2020, it's better to leave him in, let him win, and then pull the 25th on him. That way, they get their four more years without having to deal with Trump's mental problems OR take a chance that Pence would lose.

[CrispyQ]

39. Pence with a woman VP? Not sure I can visualize the logistics of that.

[Nay]

49. She'd only be of use in securing the presidency for Pence -- afterward, she would be

squirreled away in her cubicle and also doing the boring ceremonial stuff that VPs usually do. And there's no reason why Pence couldn't always require that other people be in the room if he had to meet with her. The horror.

[Mr.Bill]

58. Think Sarah Palin.

[treestar]

80. Or that right-wing women would be excited by it

Republican women don't see that at all as a good thing.

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

44. Acting cabinet members/secretaries cannot invoke or vote on bringing up the 25th...

... so how will that work?

[Nay]

50. It's the clunky fourth section of the 25th and has never been used, but here it is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

I am putting my actual hopes on the artery-clogging abilities of KFC, frankly.

[bdamomma]

51. well we have it

to be used why can't they just use it??? and stop all the hand wringing. I want to see Miller and McConnell go down in a big way.

And those that leave the ship are gravitating toward Lobbyists jobs. Damn they should go to prison.

[Captain Zero]

69. I think the Dems should spring impeachment on him

Just close enough to the Republican Convention as we can in late spring 2020. I don't mind delaying now. All the charges we have now can still be put in impeachment charges in May 2020, plus we will have even more by then. Let there be 50-60 charges in it. Sure, the GOP senate won't address it, but let them ALL run against the charges until November. Let them all consider for three months if they want to run against the charges with him at the head of their ballot until November, and their own convention could end up being his trial.

[Fritz Walter]

41. Bitter end?

Assuming he leaves the Offal Orifice feet first -- rather than in a frog march -- the RepubliCONs will have a new martyr. They will direct their rage at Fake Gnus and left-wing conspirators, blaming them for causing his untimely demise. He will be venerated at the same level as Ronnie Raygun, because all investigations into his treasonous and other blatantly criminal behaviors will be terminated. And if his slimy remains are interred at Arlington National Cemetery, the federal government will have to post 24-hour (military) guards at the gravesite to keep the rest of us from pissing on his plot.

[shanti]

22. The rallies...

he hasn't had one of them in quite awhile.

[Nasruddin]

42. He's scheduled for Monday

09 Sep Fayetteville NC

Should be interesting

[Mr.Bill]

59. He could pee on himself on stage

and the cheers would be deafening.

[snowybirdie]

28. That aide

doing Trumps bidding was his lacky, the Acting Director of Homeland Security!

[Zoonart]

31. Thank you for pointing that out.

I do remember hearing this, but forgot.

[malaise]

35. And that was worse than the raving lunatic and his sharpie

It is all frightening

[littlemissmartypants]

30. That wasn't an just an aide to his left.

It is our "acting" Homeland Security Director Kevin Kealoha McAleenan. He's an attorney. He graduated from Amherst College and needs to return his Presidential Rank Award effective immediately, imo.

McAleenan practiced law in the private sector from 1998 until 2001, when terrorist attacks that September motivated him to apply to work for the FBI. He was recruited to help start up the new CBP Office of Antiterrorism, eventually becoming its executive director.[1]

In 2006, he became CBP's area director of Los Angeles International Airport (LAX).[9] During his time as the port director of LAX, he was responsible for the security operations for that airport as well as 17 other airport facilities.[8] After two years in private consulting, McAleenan returned to CBP in 2010, leading field operations. In 2011 McAleenan became the assistant commissioner of the Customs and Border Protection, Office of Field Operations.[8] [10] In this position he was in charge of airport operations and was responsible for securing the US border while ensuring lawful trade and travel at 329 ports of entry in the United States of America, as well as 70 locations in more than 40 countries.[8]

McAleenan served as deputy commissioner of Customs and Border Protection from 2014 to 2017.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_McAleenan

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=12437446

[Zoonart]

32. Thank you for pointing this out.

[littlemissmartypants]

33. You're welcome.

[trueblue2007]

66. Rump is crazy

[True Blue American]

72. I agree

The long trips are taking a huge toll on Trump. That was the main reason he did not go on these trips. He is losing in so many areas

Kim is spitting in his face with new missile’s, the GS was a disaster for him. The economy is now sputtering, there is no sign of a Health care or Infrastructure bill. He is losing the battle with China. Even the Mexico/ Canada deal has not been signed. Farmers are angry, manufacturing is slowing.

His mental health is deteriorating daily.

Outside of Judges what has he gained? The Senate is broken under McConnell.

[hot2na]

34. I'm not buying that his mental health has broken down.

This is what Donald Trump is and what he always was. It is just that as we get further down this rabbit hole, his mental flaws are becoming ever more obvious. People who should have known better are starting to wake up to this.

Unfortunately, Trump media airbrushes all his nonsense out and paints his image as a bold, fearless, and decisive leader. That 35% or so who continue to support this imbecile, can filter all the bad stuff out.

[Nasruddin]

43. We need the eval

The energy level of 2015-16 seems to have disappeared.
Is there any dispute about that?
Discontinuing his foreign trips is an indicator of something being wrong.

The other signs - there could be wishful thinking & confirmation bias involved.

Something needs to be done to force this issue. The US is in for a real beating with a checked out president
and such a totally incompetent set of amateurs and grifters running things. So far we are the luckiest
country in the world.

[Mr.Bill]

60. Exactly.

People who say he's a media genius or a master manipulator are way over-thinking the situation.

He's an under-developed moron and that's all there is to it.

[littlemissmartypants]

40. That wasn't an just an aide to his left.

It is our "acting" Homeland Security Director Kevin Kealoha McAleenan. He's an attorney. He graduated from Amherst College and needs to return his Presidential Rank Award effective immediately, imo.

McAleenan practiced law in the private sector from 1998 until 2001, when terrorist attacks that September motivated him to apply to work for the FBI. He was recruited to help start up the new CBP Office of Antiterrorism, eventually becoming its executive director.[1]

In 2006, he became CBP's area director of Los Angeles International Airport (LAX).[9] During his time as the port director of LAX, he was responsible for the security operations for that airport as well as 17 other airport facilities.[8] After two years in private consulting, McAleenan returned to CBP in 2010, leading field operations. In 2011 McAleenan became the assistant commissioner of the Customs and Border Protection, Office of Field Operations.[8] [10] In this position he was in charge of airport operations and was responsible for securing the US border while ensuring lawful trade and travel at 329 ports of entry in the United States of America, as well as 70 locations in more than 40 countries.[8]

McAleenan served as deputy commissioner of Customs and Border Protection from 2014 to 2017.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_McAleenan

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=12437446

[True Blue American]

73. You are so right!

He killed his reputation by sitting there silently knowing Trump was lying and faking.

[dalton99a]

5. Leave Mr. Perfection alone.

Give him a truckload of Popeyes chicken sandwiches

[lastlib]

15. and hamberders! with cheese and sauce.

[bdamomma]

52. top it off

with tons of ice cream too.

[mopinko]

7. congress needs to subpoena dr ronnie feelgood.

we all know he flunked that dementia test.
we all know his brain is just flat out broken.

[Act_of_Reparation]

8. I'm sure he'll get right on that.

On to more important matters: what do I want for lunch? I'm thinking a BLT or a turkey club. Having trouble deciding.

[safeinOhio]

9. Claims he can not be crazy as

he is the Chosen One and King of the Jews.

[bluestarone]

11. They call it for tRUMP BUT

What about all the RETHUGS in the senate? They ALL need this as well!

[bucolic_frolic]

12. Going round the bend

Dementia turning violent can be abrupt.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/03/30/alzheimers.violence.caregiving/index.html

[Uncle Joe]

13. Kicked and recommended

Thanks for the thread bdamomma.

[defacto7]

14. An independant evaluation would be good.

We know he's unfit but he could also use mental disability as a defense against conviction of crimes when he's out of office. It's a slippery slope without precautions.

[H2O Man]

36. No, he couldn't.

What's known as an "insanity defense" is rarely successful in terms of guilty versus not guilty. One must be found to not know the difference between "right" and "wrong." Hence, if one takes steps to hide their crimes, there is zero chance of their mental state being used as a defense successfully. At very most, it might be used as a possible mitigating circumstance in the sentencing phase.

[MyMission]

65. In all fairness, and some sarcasm

He's never known the difference between right and wrong.
He believes he's always right, never wrong, and anyone who doesn't agree with him is wrong.

But i agree, and I don't think his narcissism makes him legally insane, just warped and crazy.
If he makes a case for insanity, they could lock him up in a ward for the criminally insane.
I'd be ok with that. Just lock him up!!!

[cab67]

77. An insanity defense is not my concern.

I’m a lot more concerned that he could be ruled unfit for trial. His faculties may leave him legally unable to defend himself.

[SHRED]

17. Ya...that's not gonna happen

[Hortensis]

71. Not unless the Republican powers decided to remove him.

Given Trump's behavior, I wonder if they could be pushed to it. He's protected by the support of their voters and the religious right, of course, but if something caused that to be shaken... He's already a grave threat to their control of government, but presumably would have to become so unelectable they'd have a better chance with Pence...

Just speculating.

[Permanut]

18. Yeah, but they're forgetting the part where God chose Mango Mussolini..

There are no words to describe how twisted this is. Oh, and they believe the BS to this day.


“God raised up, I believe, Donald Trump,” said former U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann after he won the GOP nomination. “God showed up,” the Rev. Franklin Graham said to cheers at a post-election rally.

For those who share this view, Trump’s victory was nothing short of miraculous, especially given that he beat out 16 others in the Republican primaries — some of them evangelical Christians with long political resumes.

“For me, that has to be providence. That has to be the hand of God,” said Paula White, an evangelical pastor Trump has tapped to pray at his inauguration.

[link:https://religionnews.com/2017/01/17/did-god-choose-trump-what-belief-in-divine-intervention-really-means/|

[Efilroft Sul]

21. "Hand of God" is pronounced "Poo-tin".

[Permanut]

23. Oh, sure..

Next, you'll be giving away the secret handshake.

[Efilroft Sul]

25. Darn it, this must be why I failed that CIA exam 30 years ago.

[bdamomma]

53. Putin

will get his at the end too, all these dicktators get it at the end, but what will be the cost to millions of innocent people being in jeopardy. So scary and not right. You know many of us get it and keep our deepest thoughts to ourselves regarding the dilemma we are in and what possible steps could be taken.

[Efilroft Sul]

54. We are of like mind.

[saidsimplesimon]

27. As we speak,

the "chock full of nuts" guy has authorized building a higher wall around our White House. (Oh yes, we will pay for it not Mexico.)

It's not just to block his view of we peasants, it's for sighting the men in white coats when they arrive for an intervention. Approximately 13 months before we can use the ballot box to send IT packing back into the sewer, his own hotel.

[yaesu]

29. he will just make a chart with his magic marker, make it look like he's a genius. nt

[usaf-vet]

37. Let us not wait until all the psychiatric experts have left to say is WE WARNED YOU!

[BlueMississippi]

45. Even if he is diagnosed as a demented sociopath

the Trumpanzees will call it a deep state conspiracy

[Mr.Bill]

61. They'll say they knew that and that's why they voted for him. n/t

[Mme. Defarge]

56. He needs to be declared legally incompetent

by a judge and appointed a legal guardian.

[Mr.Bill]

57. No test needed. He shows us he's nuts everyday.

The problem is the 60 million people who voted for him. That's who needs to be evaluated.

[Smackdown2019]

62. White coats

Is it seriously possible for a federal judge to order a mental evaluation of a US President due his actions?

[Smackdown2019]

63. He is a federal employee !

The Constitution only talks about removals of a sitting President, but nothing states where a DOCTOR can declare a US President mentally unstable. Yes the cabinet can declare him unfit, but Donald Duck Fired his cabinet. Could the fired cabinet still declare him unfit?

[bdamomma]

64. We have the 25th Amendment

to get his ass out?? We as a people have to lean in hard on our Congress, Moscow Mitch in particular he's only one man, and we are the people. His delusion to say "the hard left" what about those who are in with the Russians. He has no evidence to say it's the "hard left" Republicans don't even have a party no more but we do.

[lpbk2713]

67. Will someone please keep Trump away from the nuclear football?

I doubt if he would target Russia but no one else is safe.

[certainot]

70. it's sex on the wrong brain

[IdealsAndReal42]

74. Perfect.

The Orange One should be declared unfit for POTUS and stripped from any presidential duty, before official impeachment over grounds of mental illness.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

75. K&R

[mnmoderatedem]

76. I've said it before, I'll say it again.

trump is the buffet smorgasbord at a psychiatry convention.

[bdamomma]

78. I would think

that some of our Medical Professionals have spoken to our Congress Committee heads about his fragile and dangerous mental health problems behind closed doors and they don't want to panic us, but we already know there is a problem.

[duforsure]

79. He should be placed in Gitmo

As a political terrorist and renditioned.

[Stuart G]

81. K & R. nt