General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRick Wilson: "Don Jr. Will run in 2024. And he'll probably win."
Forget Trump 2020, Worry About Don Jr. 2024https://www.thedailybeast.com/forget-trump-2020-worry-about-donald-trump-jr-2024
Donald Trump is locked in his now-tiresome rage spiral as economic, foreign policy, and moral failures of his crapulous administration mount. The endless, wearing cycle of fail, lie, deny, ragetweet, lather, rinse, repeat is an ugly, constant whine in our lives.
Democrats are caught up in the 2020 race for the nomination, full of passions for candidates, ideas, and issues that wont matter in the general election next November. Trump is still in a position to win due to their usual campaign ineptitude and the lack of a superstar candidate with the talent of Barack Obama or Bill Clinton.
Cant include anymore context/text due to their goddamned paywall.
LuckyCharms
(17,287 posts)marble falls
(56,359 posts)area51
(11,868 posts)LuckyCharms
(17,287 posts)bet $10,000 that Trump Sr. would never become president.
Grasswire2
(13,564 posts)....of their crimes and then seizing all the assets, pulling the passports, restricting them from doing business or public life.
Seriously. Why would they be allowed ANY power for vengeance? Stomp them down. Render them penniless and powerless.
Or offer the Rosenberg remedy.
BeyondGeography
(39,284 posts)New rule: No more reconciliation without truth. That's how Trump happened in the first place (ie bankers skating with corporate fines and no jail time).
iloveObama12
(421 posts)FakeNoose
(32,356 posts)He's yanking somebody's chain, maybe Chump's.
Who knows?
struggle4progress
(118,041 posts)Takket
(21,425 posts)Bullshit
Wilson can fuck right off with that crap.
maxsolomon
(32,992 posts)I wanted it to be Harris, but I haven't seen that in her campaign. Warren's appeal isn't her "Magnetism"; it's her intellect.
As much as I loathe President Sociopath, he has charisma - at least to the idiots who he appeals to. Junior has none of his dad's on-camera talent.
Rick Wilson's cynical analysis resonates for me. Especially this: "full of passions for candidates, ideas, and issues that wont matter in the general election next November".
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)...this country is permanently fucked.
maxsolomon
(32,992 posts)The candidate with the most charisma wins the General.
TheRealNorth
(9,435 posts)He knows what his base wants to hear, so he repeats that ad nauseum.
maxsolomon
(32,992 posts)He was a media fixture for decades before this sad era BECAUSE he's telegenic.
His words are irrelevant, obviously. It is the manner with which he says them.
TheRealNorth
(9,435 posts)He tells the deplorables how right they are about everything and they award him for affirming their beliefs.
maxsolomon
(32,992 posts)I don't understand why there's a problem with conceding that President Asshole is "charismatic".
We see through his bullshit. Stupid people don't. They literally think he's hilarious. And handsome. And charming. That's why he was on TV for years.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)The messenger is irrelevant. Before his current occupation as a demented cult leader, Trump was considered a C-list joke of a celebrity. His public persona was that of a sleazy, boorish lout, so no. I wouldn't say he has charisma to most people. He became popular with racist imbeciles when he began publicly parroting all their vile beliefs.
I wouldn't say Lou Dobbs or Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity have any sort of charisma or charm either, but they're popular with the pukes for the reason I stated.
If we're talking Republican president, we have Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, and the two Bushes in the last 50 years. Yeah, whole lot of charisma there.
Charisma, for some reason, only seems to matter when you're a Democrat.
maxsolomon
(32,992 posts)Precisely because he brought "star power" to the stage. It doesn't work on us, but it worked on them. It was the manner with which he parroted their troglodytic white nationalist resentments - the manner of a skilled Con Artist. I remember Scott Adams telling Bill Maher it was called "pacing and leading".
If charisma didn't matter, Ted Cruz would have been the nominee.
Reagan won and governed on his Charisma, too.
Hekate
(90,202 posts)maxsolomon
(32,992 posts)for the backup.
Hekate
(90,202 posts)Wilson is an acute observer of politics, whatever else you think of his career, and his cynicism is well-earned in the Age of Trump.
snowybirdie
(5,191 posts)Ok Mr Former Republican. You've got our attention. Now sober up!
CousinIT
(9,151 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,154 posts)and then copy it to your clipboard with Ctrl+V, you sometimes get all of it? Just paste it into anything you can look at text in - Notepad, a word processor ...
(oh - I just checked the large amount of text I got, and it isn't the continuation of this story after all - it's a different article, about Warren. Never mind, the tip is worth checking when you find a "pay to read more" message)
dalton99a
(81,073 posts)kimbutgar
(20,882 posts)It will be hard for evangelicals to support a guy who leaves his 5 kids and wife.
This was a click bait article. Don jr had a lot of baggage and is not sly like his dad.
maxsolomon
(32,992 posts)Ok, 2 wives and 4 kids, not 1 and 5.
sdfernando
(4,897 posts)Look who they are supporting now! Divorced, cheater, pornstar dalliances, grabbing women by the....
you give evangelicals too much credit.
no_hypocrisy
(45,774 posts)TeamPooka
(24,156 posts)New Breed Leader
(614 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,606 posts)Make sense as nothing he does make sense...oh well!
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)I'll take a bet on that one Rick, geeez.
Hilarious, mainly due to Don Jr. in lots of freedom jeopardy?
NewJeffCT
(56,827 posts)And I agree that the Democrats don't have a "superstar" candidate like an Obama or Bill Clinton, but I'm not sure that will be needed in 2020. I think if Democrats follow the Tim Wise strategy of narrowing the focus of attacks on Trump to his racism & misogyny instead of the other 98 issues that we can attack him about, they should be in a good shape.
and, I think Warren is definitely developing into a very strong candidate, and others have potential.
BlueMississippi
(776 posts)I didn't need to read that
Azathoth
(4,603 posts)What sounds like an over-the-top joke now is political reality in four years. Remember how absurd the notion of a president Trump was when Obama roasted him at the WHCD?
comradebillyboy
(10,119 posts)attention to him. Aside from being anti-Trump he's just another doctrinaire Republican asshole.
IcyPeas
(21,747 posts)they will all vote for that person whoever it is. it doesn't matter to them the persons morals or crimes. We know that now, clearly... they don't care. as long as it's a republican they will vote for them. Their president is just a puppet.
and you can see by the blue banner on the top of this forum that we don't have a superstar. those numbers have hardly moved. (and yes, I know that's just DU members).
maxsolomon
(32,992 posts)who change parties based on emotions, or simply don't show up because they're not excited about the choice.
They decide the election. They fucked us in 2016 because Trump made them laugh.
CousinIT
(9,151 posts)...who when Republicans are in power are the ones REALLY running the US gov't, not POTUS.
They don't want a LEADER. They want a PUPPET for the wealthy and big corprats.
You're absolutely right!
The idiots will vote for any clown.
Baclava
(12,047 posts)DFW
(54,056 posts)onenote
(42,383 posts)JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Sorry but never Trump Republicans shouldn't be heroes of the resistance.