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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTX Trump voter learns about plans for "the wall"..."I never thought they'd go through a subdivision"
She is thinking about it a lot more now that plans call for part of what could be a 30-foot-tall stretch of wall to land in her backyard, dividing the River Bend Resort and Golf Club, which hugs the Rio Grande. About 70 percent of the community some 200 properties would be stranded south of the barricade but north of the river. Fifteen holes of the golf course could be there, too.
An unsettling lesson in unexpected consequences has left some residents rethinking their support for the wall and the president who has made it his signature project.
I never thought theyd go through a subdivision, said Ms. Menard, a former Houston schoolteacher who said she had been shaken since she was notified in June of plans to build the wall next year. My blood pressure has not been normal since I got that letter.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/05/us/border-wall-brownsville-texas.html
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)How do people that fucking stupid remember to breathe?
Phoenix61
(17,002 posts)calimary
(81,220 posts)Bradical79
(4,490 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)With those types of people, everything is about them, they don't care unless it affects them.
hotrod0808
(323 posts)if I live to be able to retire and I actually have a retirement fund (two longshots, but I can dream), I don't plan on staying here in my retirement.
3catwoman3
(23,973 posts)If one had to decide whether to breathe in first or out first, some would die before they could choose.
SergeStorms
(19,193 posts)then cry when their homes are destroyed by storms. A lot of people just don't seem to think things through before acting.
Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)Even if Marianne Williamson signed it. Now you could make the argument that they shouldn't build around there due to flooding potential but that's not the issue here.
What if Trump decided he wants a 10 mile wide demilitarized zone across California and Arizona and put up a 2nd fence? Would you feel the same way, that anyone who lived too far south in San Diego should have known they're getting what they deserve? I'm sure some of them voted for Trump.
walkingman
(7,597 posts)gopiscrap
(23,756 posts)efhmc
(14,725 posts)even in Texas. But it is obvious you think we are all the same.
walkingman
(7,597 posts)child for almost everything wrong with America these days. It started in the 80's (just like lots of places) and gradually got worse till the middle 90's with the election of "W" and has gone down ever since. There are still lots of good smart people here but I live in rural Texas now (formally Houston and Austin) and the mentality is unbelievable. Full of gun and religious nuts who absolutely HATE Democrats. The powers that be are doing there best to stop Texas from turning BLUE but I think it is inevitable. I hope I live long enough to see it happen.
SilasSouleII
(362 posts)Must be that the ones that do have no issues or no tRump cultists in their state. The Lone Star State is multi-national, multi cultural, with huge metroplexes, beautiful rural hillcountry, picturesque German and Czech towns, wide open plains, miles and miles of beaches and shoreline, beautiful National and State parks, thick pine woods... oh , and yeah a border with Mexico. Wouldn't want to live anywhere else. And we're working hard to flip it back to a blue state.
stopdiggin
(11,296 posts)but some of it is richly deserved too. Chickens coming home to roost so to speak. What do I know about Texas? 1) fixation on high school football. 2) fixation on guns. 3) fixation on crappy school books. 4) fixation on the death penalty. 5) concerted and ongoing anti-choice. 6) concerted and ongoing voter suppression. And on and on ..
So when some totally clueless ex-school teacher (as featured in the OP) treats us to another "Gee, I never thought .." gem. Yes, we're kind of inclined to respond with a "Boy, howdy .. why does this not surprise me," as an off the cuff. Even if it ain't entirely fair.
AJT
(5,240 posts)Concerted effort to twist the word of Christ into a belief system based on bigotry and hate.
aggiesal
(8,911 posts)Almost fell off my chair!
If you're going to be that funny, I'm going to have to block you!
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)When they are, they get hyper-pissed.
Cosmocat
(14,563 posts)until, as you note, it really hits home.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)of power and the craziness will go away.
2naSalit
(86,536 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)usaf-vet
(6,181 posts)Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)The Trump University Scandal (& his casino disasters) were BEFORE the election!
ALL these voters ignored these obvious red flags!
That and their favorite media surely never gave it play, so most are unaware?
If you talk to the remaining monsters, I'd expect them to scream FAKE NEWS to anything I'd say.
TheBlackAdder
(28,183 posts)trotsky
(49,533 posts)Who could have possibly thought they'd eat your face too??
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,321 posts)Slobbering damned idiots shouldn't be teaching school. They need remedial lessons in avoiding being taken in by stupid scams.
MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)... would have given us by far the best 3-word summary of any/all Trumpers.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Maybe you should brush up on your Spanish, eh Shirley?
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Which undocumented farm workers will be more than happy to work and go back across to sleep every night.
Tech
(1,770 posts)3catwoman3
(23,973 posts)I wake up every morning hoping he has died during the night.
cstanleytech
(26,281 posts)then Pence would become President and you can bet dollars to donuts that the morons and assholes that voted for Trump and might be regretting it now would probably vote for him in a heartbeat if Trump was out of the way.
bdamomma
(63,836 posts)I just wish he would have medical emergency like a aneurysm or a stroke. A higher power works in mysterious ways.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Joe941
(2,848 posts)ReformedGOPer
(478 posts)onethatcares
(16,166 posts)right!!! She voted for the orange asshole with no qualms.
it's amazing how many "reluctant voters" are around anymore.
f.........,m........
aggiesal
(8,911 posts)once they are told how bad whatever Democratic candidate we select.
Vinca
(50,261 posts)badhair77
(4,216 posts)With the right landscaping shell never notice that 30 ft wall.
Paladin
(28,252 posts)That's what you get for helping to put an insane individual into the White House.
rockfordfile
(8,702 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,582 posts)"I still support our president," he said.
Kool Aid.
3Hotdogs
(12,372 posts)bdamomma
(63,836 posts)cstanleytech
(26,281 posts)Trump but I would be lying as I do not think they even deserve that much sympathy.
Grins
(7,212 posts)And thats all you need to know. Like so many things Republicans hate or ignore, it only becomes real when it hits them PERSONALLY!
Sucha NastyWoman
(2,748 posts)Which of course Her tax dollars, NOT
MEXICO, will pay for.
keithbvadu2
(36,774 posts)Dividing a golf course? Sacrilege!
Obviously not one of his.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)AllaN01Bear
(18,154 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)world wide wally
(21,740 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)gopiscrap
(23,756 posts)NBachers
(17,103 posts)Hekate
(90,644 posts)Don't worry. You'll get used to having your view blocked and being walled off from peaceful neighbor-nations.
I'm sure the East Berliners did too. It was all for the greater good, after all, and to stick a thumb in other nations' eyes.
Eugene
(61,872 posts)When a politician proposes something batsh*t crazy, don't kid yourself by thinking he doesn't really mean it.
Turbineguy
(37,319 posts)ReformedGOPer
(478 posts)Dave in VA
(2,037 posts)IronLionZion
(45,427 posts)Nobody really thinks about it until it affects them personally, Ms. Menard said.
llmart
(15,536 posts)No, you freakin' idiot. Some of us do think about how it will affect others, and we can see the bigger picture. Just because you're an ignoramus doesn't mean we all are.
gopiscrap
(23,756 posts)womanofthehills
(8,698 posts)One could not understand why I posted political stuff on Facebook. Didn't think I could care about so many diverse problems.
ooky
(8,922 posts)about how other people will be affected. Just not her, and her selfish, self serving party.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Ignorant-ass pieces of shit dont change, ever. Fuck her and the horse she rode in on.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)Just say it lady. You want blacks and gays deported.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)If they do, they do it once in their life.
Elections are not won because peoples minds are changed.
Elections won because the right people show up to vote.
DallasNE
(7,402 posts)The wall becomes the new border. Between the wall and the river will become a no-mans land with neither country patrolling it. It will be a mess, to say the least. The golf course will become a shanty town.
TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Do like Israel, put stuff into the land, then claim it.
Mexico can put big produce farms in that fertile land, then make a claim to the World Court.
rainin
(3,011 posts)Captain Stern
(2,201 posts)That's in the article. That was said by a woman who voted for trump.
What I think she (and millions of other dolts) doesn't get is that a lot of us do think about shit before it affects us personally, because we understand that it can/will affect us, and everyone else later. And we don't want to have bad shit happen.
I hope trump's wall never gets built. I hope, that if it does get built, it doesn't go through any subdivisions. But I hope that if it does get built, and absolutely has to go through one subdivision...it's Ms. Menard's. I hope that even if it goes through that subdivision it doesn't have to be built in anyone's back yard. But....if it just has to go through one back yard....yeah, Ms Menard's.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)During the 2016 election, I told him about the Republicans' plan to gut Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security.
Without skipping a beat, he said "As long as it doesn't affect me, I don't care."
He has a fat pension from the San Francisco Airport, which comes with Rolls Royce healthcare, so if he lost SS or Medicare, he'd really be no worse for the wear. A loss, yes. A devastating loss, no.
rurallib
(62,406 posts)that is the essence go being a sheeple Republican
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Racism über alles.
Initech
(100,063 posts)TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)BadGimp
(4,015 posts)I just checked my F&$ks jar and I got none left to give. Sorry...
Indykatie
(3,695 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)She likely lied about the "reluctant" to look better. If she was truly reluctant, she would be set to vote for any democrat that we nominate, knowing that we won't nominate an insane or incompetent person.
Scruffy1
(3,255 posts)Rivers shift over time so the border line is actually where the river was when the border treaties were approved. Lyndon Johnson settled the last dispute in the 60's with a land swap that gave Mexico land north of the Rio Grand and the Mexico gave the US some land north of the Rio Grande. On the US side it's called Chamizal Memorial on the Mexican side it's called Chamizal Park., which is where the famous Las Equis statue is. The memorial is a tribute to peacefully settling disputes.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Atticus
(15,124 posts)gopiscrap
(23,756 posts)how about rocks and pears
HuskyOffset
(888 posts)serves you rights and a big pile of fuck yous and send those off to her.
gopiscrap
(23,756 posts)I am waiting to see how long it is til they blame this on Hillary Clinton
doc03
(35,325 posts)the border. How could they not know where the line is, they pay taxes don't they? Like here the Ohio River is in West Virginia. The line between Canada and the US goes through the middle of lake Erie.
Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)doc03
(35,325 posts)cutting across in a strait line makes sense. So that subdivision will be on the other side of the wall but technicly in the US. That is a dellema. They could put a gate there but those ornery Mexicans could get thru.
Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)There are gates and people who live on the "Mexican side" can come and go, though they often don't get things like mail or trash service.
Srkdqltr
(6,271 posts)Just wondering? I'm sure this has come up before.
What would be fun is they build the wall through her neighborhood then Trump loses in 20. There they are all stuck with the wall.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)other side of the border.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)pamela
(3,469 posts)The wall went right through people's yards and even a community college. Students who had a class on the other side of the wall had to travel 20 minutes to an opening in the wall and then back to the college. One man had to put his cows on the other side of the wall from his barn because that's where the grass was.
The real kicker is how they pay for the land when they build the wall on your property. They only pay for the little strip of land that the wall is on not the whole property even though having a wall divide your property pretty much ruins the value.
kacekwl
(7,016 posts)dummies like you (teacher no less) voted for an obvious liar and sub-par human. My guess is you would do it again in a heartbeat. Boo fucking hoo.
neeksgeek
(1,214 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,235 posts)lame54
(35,284 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)Fuck her
hatrack
(59,583 posts)Fucking paying attention now?
Upset because suddenly it's hurting youyouyouyouyouyouyouyou?
That's nice.
Texasgal
(17,045 posts)from years and years ago regarding protective fences along he rio grande on to peoples private property.
For many, this will take years to solve! She's obviously not a smart lady, but if she wants to protect her property... file a law suit and change your VOTE.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Lawsuits won't stop him. Their best bet is a democrat winning in 2020, then rational policies will again become the norm and laws will be respected.
JDC
(10,125 posts)You reap what you sow.
Takket
(21,560 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Lancero
(3,003 posts)ck4829
(35,045 posts)UpInArms
(51,280 posts)I hope Shirley takes her regret with her everywhere she goes ...
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)These people think that Donald Trump actually gives a flying fuck about them. How cute and quiant a notion. Donald Trump couldn't care less if this person or any of the others who rally round him live or die. True of the Republicans in general. They all want to line their pockets with cool cash, and rule like a passel of royals and nobility.
HAB911
(8,880 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)when W tried to build a border fence in TX, with many outrages like this, it got mired in over 300 lawsuits and approximately 60 are still pending.
The federal government has rights to an extremely narrow strip of land along the CA, NM and AZ borders, which is why the majority of that strip in those states has some kind of barrier, like this Normandy fencing in some areas to stop vehicles, but land right up to the Texas border belongs to people, local governments, businesses and other organizations, like preservationists.
Zambero
(8,964 posts)Likely tan vinyl with white fence posts. Shouldn't be a big issue for the neighborhood!
Captain Zero
(6,801 posts)but somebody else's? They should be grateful they get to support our country this way.
dawn5651
(603 posts)and prayers.
Rebl2
(13,492 posts)and prayers. She should have known
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)gopiscrap
(23,756 posts)now the chickens are coming home to roost. Live with it
eppur_se_muova
(36,259 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)their land & homes will become worthless......
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awesomerwb1
(4,267 posts)"I never thought they would deport my husband"....
I never thought this, etc.
f-ing morons.
underpants
(182,769 posts)But here I am.
IronLionZion
(45,427 posts)bringing out the worst waste buried deep inside people
Rabrrrrrr
(58,347 posts)The fence should go through only MAGA-head's yards.
Freethinker65
(10,009 posts)To keep them safe from the outside world, and everyone else from having to be affected by their ignorance.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)LudwigPastorius
(9,136 posts)Oh well, you're hatred of brown people overrode any common sense or logic you may have had when you voted for Trump.
Now, reap what you've sown, Shirley.
GoCubsGo
(32,079 posts)I have no sympathy for Ms. Menard and the rest of her ilk. They can go fuck themselves.
matt819
(10,749 posts)That the wall would follow the lines of their gerrymandered districts?
It's situations like these where I kinda sorta support a wall. In the same way that I kinda sorta have no problem with tariffs that affect those companies or people who thought that somehow they'd be exempt from the effect of corruption and rampant criminality.
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fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)So I'm a little surprised myself that some subdivision span the US-Mexican border.
I seem to recall though a library or some other public building that spans the US-CANADA border though. I want to say Point Roberts but my memory is hazy on this.
While hopefully I can be forgiven for not knowing this, SURELY someone who LIVES in that subdivision would have known where the doggone border is!