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By Josh Marshall
September 5, 2019 12:49 pm
Did you know that a whistleblower has come forward with evidence that Trump administration officials are interfering with the mandatory audits federal law requires for all Presidents and Vice Presidents? I didnt either! Or at least I didnt until I was talking to TPMs Josh Kovensky and he mentioned it to me in passing. And yes, this is really true! (Josh wrote the story up here back on August 27th. Definitely read his analysis for a deeper look at the details.) On July 29th a federal employee came forward to the House Ways and Means Committee with credible allegations of possible misconduct tied to the mandatory audits of the Presidents and Vice Presidents taxes.
Why isnt this a bigger deal?
First, a few points. Its not that no one has talked about this. There were a few small write-ups of this fact in D.C. publications after Chairman Richard Neal (D-MA) raised the issue with Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin. Neal wrote to Mnuchin about the whistleblower in a letter dated August 8th. But it didnt become public until August 20th when it was included in a legal filing tied to the on-going tax returns litigation.
Its fair to say that if there hasnt been enough attention to this Neal is as much at fault as reporters. That August 8th letter only comes at the matter in a roundabout way. One of the arguments Neals committee is using in its demand for the Presidents tax returns is that they need to see whether the law that mandates Presidential audits is being correctly administered. The IRS/Treasury response has been that theres nothing to worry about on that front (the concerns are unfounded), so you dont need the tax returns. In the August 8th letter, Neal says, well we do think we have reason to worry and in fact now we have this whistleblower who says theres funny business going on right now.
As you can see, the whole issue is rolled up into Neals strategy for getting the Presidents tax returns. Federal law says Neal can just ask for the returns and the IRS has to produce them. Period. The President has told his appointees not to follow that law. So now its in court. Neals strategy has been not so much to rely on the plain text of the law but to argue his legislative purpose for requesting them. Basically, I need them because we need to check on these laws or pass new laws.
But havent we kind of lost the plot here? Theres a whistleblower who says Trumps appointees are interfering with the mandatory audit of the Presidents tax returns. Thats a big deal quite apart from how it affects the tax returns lawsuit!
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/umm-theres-a-whistleblower-about-the-presidents-tax-returns
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Enforce the fucking laws.
Enough with the waste of taxpayer money and court cases. Congress has the power to hold people in contempt. With jail time. Start fucking doing it. N O W.
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)I have one Scottish (Highlands) parent and one Welsh parent. How they ever managed to get together, I'll never understand. Mum is the Scot - quite, serious, studious. Dad is the quintessential Welshman -always a joke, a story or a song. If I had a dime for everytime I walked into the house that Dad didn't just up and race to the piano, "Fancy a song today ?". And of course we'd sing for hours. Happy fun times.
My folks were so different. But I loved them both and learned their cultures. Made me one very confused child. Then I finally embraced the divide and ran with it. A Englishman once heard my story and afterwards, put his arm in my shoulder and said, "Oh you poor child. I canna know what the tortures you've been through."
All in All, I'm grateful for the experience. It was a wild ride but It's made me who I am.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)My mom's last name Mc-- traces to Scotland. This is several generations back though.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)are Davis (or Davies), Evans, Owens, and of course, Jones.
I think that back in the boggy mists of time, Evans and Owens were the same name, but due to the relative isolation of North Wales from South Wales, and the linguistic differences between the regions (Think of how a Texan would react to hearing a New Englander's accent for the first time.), and before there was a written alphabet that nuanced/differentiated and created spellings, (I'm thinking if the Ogham alphabet here) it could be possible.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)I'd share it but I don't want to dox myself. There is a church in Wales that shares my last name. Begins with a P.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Mine hail originally from Sutherland. Cold, desolate, beautiful.
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)How we got there is interesting, Danish Vikings named Ruthven, who enjoyed rape and pillage frolics in Scotland on a regular basis, until the Danish King raised his share of the booty they brought back, so they just went to Scotland and stayed.
If you look up Gowrie, you'll see mention of the Earl of Gowrie, a title created for members of the Ruthven clan.
We were notorious, when aroused not afraid to do a little kidnapping or assassination. This link tells a little, but there is LOTS more.
[link:https://www.scotweb.co.uk/info/ruthven/|
Our name eventually became "Ruffin" and here in America my great great Uncle Edmund Ruffin was given the "honor" of firing the first shot at Fort Sumter to start the Civil War. He also committed suicide after the war because he could not bear the thought of living under the rule of the "vile and perfidious Yankee race", as he wrote in his suicide note.
My mother was descended from French Huguenots, so everything in my DNA is all about rebellion!
Oh and I'm a Son of the American Revolution too, so Donald Trump can just fuck right off, if anybody should be making decisions about who stays and who goes in this country it should be ME with 300 years of forefathers here! Not some Johan-Come-Lately German guy.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Your family has an interesting history. I don't think any of my ancestors did anything that exciting. That and we've only been here since early 1900s.
How did you discover all this ? AncestryDNA or one of those places that does geneology ? This is fascinatingly cool.
And I, for one, will be happy to let YOU make decisions (if the alternative is trumpie), as you'd probably be more fair and just.
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)My Family even knows the freaking boat they came over on the last trip to Scotland from Denmark on ( I can't remember now). My great great uncle is famous, his picture is in the Ken Burns Civil War documentary and book.
An interesting side not on my mother's side is that there were lots of redheads in the family, and the guys were very attracted to Cherokee women and married several, producing a sub-genre of red headed Cherokees in North Alabama
Here's my Uncle Edmund Ruffin:
[link:http://randomthoughtsonhistory.blogspot.com/2009/06/personality-spotlight-edmund-ruffin.html|
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)our Dictator made - putting a lackey in charge of the law.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,342 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)Congress can act independently. They have there own law enforcement arm for just these circumstances.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)NY Times would do one of their great charts - outlining ALL the investigations, subpoenas ignored, court cases opened and closed. whose jurisdiction its in and what the status.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Imagine a normal citizen trying to hide returns? People like us who can't lawyer up.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)gather more information before this hits the papers.
Kid Berwyn
(14,903 posts)Cmon, now!
Joe941
(2,848 posts)I'm guessing the story needs to be verified and made sure it's not another tRump trap for the media.