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Bigger than the FBI. Bigger than the CIA. Bigger than the governments of Europe. Bigger than the US Congress. Bigger than the US Government.
It seems we are dealing with an international criminal organization that is larger than any country or any legal institution? Somehow, there is always an escape hatch? Somebody is being paid off. Somebody is being bribed. Somebody is being threatened. The "System" is there to use for the criminals.
Nobody is above the law? Perhaps we should re-think that? It has become painfully obvious that the law does not apply to the wealthiest criminals in the world.
Perhaps someday, we will find justice for these people. But I have my doubts that we will find it within our political system. Our country, our laws, our system of justice is not as strong as we once may have thought.
I realize this is a cynical view to have but I firmly believe that justice delayed is justice denied. Everywhere I look, I see justice delayed.
The Wizard
(12,534 posts)and threatened by an unbridled criminal cartel that will enslave the working class.
Will we be reduced to pitchforks, torches and rope? Let's hope there's enough political courage to imprison this lawless assault on humanity.
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)Botany
(70,447 posts)It is so big that it is hard to wrap your head around "it."
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Barr is just a soldier.
Botany
(70,447 posts)He is a firewall stopper.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Putin already has one.
Chaika.
Barr ranks lower than Trump, and lower than Chaika.
Botany
(70,447 posts)Now if you agree that Jeffery Epstein was whacked in jail who do you think did the hit?
Local Mob ... such as the Rizzo boys out of Staten Island (or some mobbed up group)
Putin's punch out team
The Crown Prince's Bone Saw team
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That stuff is just kind of kidding but we are dealing with a the biggest international crime syndicate
in the world. It is massive.
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thanx for bringing up Chaika .... One of Maria Butina's Russian backers/handlers
It is up to us to MAKE this change. I hope we can do it.
rurallib
(62,377 posts)and the price of his admission is to deliver Brexit to Putin no matter what he has to do.
kentuck
(111,052 posts)If that is possible?
bucolic_frolic
(43,044 posts)The system relied on foreign enforcement and cooperation, which was automatic in high profile cases.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)you know it won't be a HUNG jury.
calimary
(81,098 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,795 posts)Realistic.
BigmanPigman
(51,565 posts)I am often accused of being "too negative" but when I defend my position by saying it is realistic I rarely get an argument.
Kid Berwyn
(14,795 posts)From a review of David Talbots The Devils Chessboard:
There were no Kennedy allies on the Warren Commission. Only Republicans and Southern Democrats. J. Edgar Hoover controlled the physical evidence in the case and Dulles was in the pivotal spot to guide the inquiries or witnesses away from any fingerprints of intelligence agencies in concocting Oswalds legend or in the events in Dallas. Serious students of the Kennedy assassination, regardless of their views of the Warren Commissions findings, must read The Devils Chessboard if for no other reason than to flesh out Allen Dulless role in guiding the publics perception of the crime of the century.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-devils-chessboard-all_b_8959302
Ferrets are Cool
(21,102 posts)moondust
(19,957 posts)When globalized trade took off in the 80s it was naturally followed by globalized crime. The totalitarian Soviet system was corrupted by one-party "absolute power"; when it collapsed in the 90s the corruption was seemingly privatized and magnified (by Yeltsin, Putin, & cronies). Xi has taken on corruption in China but who knows if it will be enough in another one-party system.
Bettie
(16,068 posts)rich people rarely pay for their crimes and then only if they include violence or fraud against other rich people.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,241 posts)Roy Rolling
(6,908 posts)Not too big to jail. Big enough to write the laws.
Formerly illegal acts are legal. They own the judges.
kentuck
(111,052 posts)...because the Congress passed a law giving him that power?
pecosbob
(7,533 posts)Don't make us go through all that again.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)MasonDreams
(756 posts)Congress has been not just bypassed, but has lost the power of the purse. Emoluments and corruption are child's play in comparison. This is attacking the core of the Constitution. And no one is screaming about it. We've been had.
zaj
(3,433 posts)This morning, I want to focus on one such evolving threatthat of organized crime. Some believe that organized crime is a thing of the past. Unfortunately, this is not the case. Traditional criminal syndicates still con, extort, and intimidate American citizens.
... We have seen a shift from regional families with a clear structure, to flat, fluid networks with global reach. These international enterprises are more anonymous and more sophisticated. Rather than running discrete operations, on their own turf, they are running multi-national, multi-billion dollar schemes from start to finish.
...Last year, we set up two units, called Threat Focus Cells, to target Eurasian organized crime. The first focuses on the Semion Mogilevich Organization; the second on the Brothers Circle enterprise.
...For those of you not familiar with either group, their memberships are large, their reach is global, and their scope of operations is broad, from weapons and drug trafficking to high-stakes fraud and global prostitution. If left unchecked, the resulting impact to our economy and our security will be significant. Indeed, Semion Mogilevich is on the FBI Top Ten Most Wanted List, and he will remain so until he is captured.
dchill
(38,437 posts)...is no longer operative regarding Trumpsk.
SargeXXX
(48 posts)KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)As the world got bigger, the tribal way came and went.
Then monarchy / empire. The elite at the top, rather than feel a responsibility for the common good, figured out how to game the system for their own and eventually ... revolution.
Capitalism has pretty much won out from that point - in various forms. The elite have long ago stopped having any consideration for the common good. They've successfully gamed the system. Eventually this system will have to end in order to clear the deck.
What comes next is anyone's guess. I won't be here to see it.
kentuck
(111,052 posts)Since time immemorial.
We last few generations have been lucky to live in a time when so many thought they were the "haves". Since WWII ended, the children that have been born have been very lucky. They have lived thru many generations with the progress they have experienced, in my opinion.
Will the future be as bright for the children of today? We must do what we can do to make sure they will have a bright future, also.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Last edited Sun Sep 8, 2019, 04:13 PM - Edit history (1)
fix: We vote for and encourage others to also by supporting Democrats. No excuse for not. The weakening of democracy and downward spiral of our nation into corruption occurring during the same period as a national shift to conservative domination of government is NOT coincidence. It's everything.
What has to be guessed at this point about what allowing the development of new billionaire and centimillionaire classes has done to us? They're only 70,000 or so families altogether, including liberal ones, though. Out of over 300,000,000 people.
Those who say they want and believe in our traditional liberal principles and values are a sizable majority. So how'd all these Republican wealth-serving fascists and the corruption they've been instilling into our systems get and stay in power?
Once again, we have to say a huge no to the lies of false equivalence between the Democrats trying to protect government of, by and for the people and those who are proving it can happen here. People who fall for the lies that "both parties do it" are the problem more even than the Republicans in office because they helped put them there. We're so close every election. Just a little more intellectual honesty and guts in a few and this could never have happened.
We can fix it, some things wonderfully fast, much else will take time. Every year in power the Republicans have deliberately been instilling enormous corruption, including through packing the courts with their hard-core RW political agents.
But that's NOT to be mistaken for that poisonous lie, "Anyway, both parties do it." No, we do not.
The Democrats' giant corruption and elections reform bill currently passed by the House is an enormously important first step. The Republicans and the powers using them know that -- they must stop it from becoming law and crippling them. But they're the minority they always were and incredibly self weakened. And our new kleptocrats? They know we can smash them too. After all, our grandparents did. It's not like we'd be the first.
Democratic Speaker Nancy Pelosi quoting liberal Justice Louis Brandeis at the opening of the 116th congress.