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Loch Ness monster might be giant eel, scientists sayEmily Dixon, CNN Updated 5th September 2019
(CNN) The most famous photo of the Loch Ness monster has long been discredited as a hoax, but scientists have come up with a new explanation for other sightings of the elusive beast -- it could be just a giant eel.
A team of researchers used DNA samples from taken from the lake in Scotland where "Nessie" is believed to dwell and concluded that a more familiar creature was behind the legend.
"There are large amounts of eel DNA in Loch Ness," Neil Gemmell, a geneticist from New Zealand's University of Otago said on Thursday.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/loch-ness-monster-explanation-scli-intl/index.html
Does Science Benefit From the Search for Sasquatch?
By Krissy Eliot
Its difficult to get respect when you work in a field that is referred to as pseudoscience.
Cryptozoology, the study of animals as yet undiscovered, relies heavily on folklore, citizen accounts, and amateur data collection to prove that legendary creatures like Bigfoot and Yeti actually exist. In the absence of empirical evidenceand of the skepticism intrinsic to scientific inquirysuch methods can be troubling if not irritating to mainstream scientists.
However, there appears to be some agreement among academics that creatures of folklore deserve scientific investigation. Why? Because cryptid studies have long led to discoveries.
https://alumni.berkeley.edu/california-magazine/just-in/2018-07-12/does-science-benefit-search-sasquatch
Apparently, a massive number of scientist - currently being terminated, by Trump, at the EPA and FDA - need jobs:
By Gregory Wallace, CNN
(CNN) - President Donald Trump on Friday announced plans to slash the formal system for advising regulators on nearly every area of federal policy.
The President signed an executive order directing each agency to "terminate at least one-third of its current" advisory committees by the end of September.
The order comes as the administration seeks to overhaul the way federal decisions are made and to overturn many decisions of its predecessors, particularly Obama-era environmental rules. https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/14/politics/trump-government-advisory-committees/index.html
Bayard
(22,061 posts)Although he must be pretty old by now.
Love the pic!
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)hlthe2b
(102,227 posts)but I find the accounts interesting nonetheless.
As to Nessie, sightings date back 1000 years so they are clearly seeing something. A giant eel? Maybe. Probably as good an explanation as any.
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)They lined up with overlapping SONAR signals, which went down to every depth of Loch Ness.
Then, these boats, equipped with state-of-the-arts SONAR traversed the entire length of Loch Ness, without finding ANY evidence of a large, moving life-form or object.
If Nessie existed, this research would have revealed it.
Aristus
(66,317 posts)where the Monster could be hiding during the sonar scans.
But how does that work? Does the Monster think: "Here come those sonar boats again. I'll just hide in this cave until they're done" - ?
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)Aristus
(66,317 posts)hlthe2b
(102,227 posts)Sonar findings are compelling but not without error as we've seen in military uses.
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)In defense of cryptozoology, examples of actual animals - previously thought to be mythical - include: giant squids and gorillas.
Another animal thought to be extinct, until one was caught is the coelacanth.
The primitive-looking coelacanth (pronounced SEEL-uh-kanth) was thought to have gone extinct with the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. But its discovery in 1938 by a South African museum curator on a local fishing trawler fascinated the world and ignited a debate about how this bizarre lobe-finned fish fits into the evolution of land animals.
With its lobed fins, an primordial relative of this fish could have crawled ashore to become an ancestor of ALL land animals.
hlthe2b
(102,227 posts)We may have a few more surprises yet.
PufPuf23
(8,767 posts)to drive out the US Forest Service Road that I live on. There are two other major USFS routes to the Patterson site in Bluff Creek and most people don't realize there is a short cut. I just went on a picnic with gf last week to Louse Camp and the film was taken upstream from where Notice Creek enters Bluff Creek up stream from Louse Camp (an old camp that is not a formal fee type campground). Apparently there are motion cameras at the Patterson site, haven't been there myself for years, there is no road access. Bluff Creek in 1967 was much more open in nature because of the massive 1964 flood, the area is heavily (re-)vegetated. I am local and Van's Camp and Van's Peak (on the divide between Camp Creek and Bluff Creek is named for my maternal grandfather.
I don't believe in bigfoot, locally anyway, and it never ceases to me those that believe, including conversions of long time local sceptics. Me to life long friend, "Jim you are going senile".
Thyla
(791 posts)I mean last time I checked the University of Otago has about zero to do with US taxpayer money and are carrying out legitimate genetic research and the Berkeley article is just stating some home truths about crypto research.
Sure I'd be pissed about the gutting of those agencies as well but somehow you have managed an even more sensationalist headline than the two article you linked to.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)Sneederbunk
(14,290 posts)Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)I've visited Roswell, NM. And that shoddy tourist-trap could use better alien displays and museums.
But, if real space-aliens existed, would they be considered illegal aliens by Trump?