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applegrove

(118,498 posts) Fri Sep 6, 2019, 02:49 PM Sep 2019

Justice Department Probes Automakers Who Cut Deal

Justice Department Probes Automakers Who Cut Deal

September 6, 2019 at 10:25 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 249 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2019/09/06/justice-department-probes-automakers-who-cut-california-deal/

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“The Justice Department has launched an antitrust investigation into four auto makers that forged an independent agreement with California on vehicle-emissions standards,” the Wall Street Journalreports.

“Justice Department lawyers are seeking to determine if Ford, Honda, BMW and Volkswagen violated federal competition law by agreeing with each other to follow tailpipe-emissions standards beyond those proposed by the Trump administration.”

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Justice Department Probes Automakers Who Cut Deal (Original Post) applegrove Sep 2019 OP

Corruption raises its ugly head... again RainCaster Sep 2019 #1

So what, the federal government is going to force automakers to build cars that pollute more? Spider Jerusalem Sep 2019 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author hedda_foil Sep 2019 #3

Posted yesterday. Should i leave mine up for today? applegrove Sep 2019 #4

Leave yours up. I'll delete. hedda_foil Sep 2019 #5

Eh, I'm a gearhead and this has been all over the car sites, it's not quite that bad sir pball Sep 2019 #6

RainCaster

(10,842 posts)

1. Corruption raises its ugly head... again

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 02:59 PM

Sep 2019

Really? The GOP has lost all sense of working for this country.

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)

2. So what, the federal government is going to force automakers to build cars that pollute more?

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 03:06 PM

Sep 2019

Under Trump, that doesn't seem so far-fetched somehow.

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applegrove

(118,498 posts)

4. Posted yesterday. Should i leave mine up for today?

Reply to hedda_foil (Reply #3)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 03:16 PM

Sep 2019

hedda_foil

(16,371 posts)

5. Leave yours up. I'll delete.

Reply to applegrove (Reply #4)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 03:21 PM

Sep 2019

sir pball

(4,737 posts)

6. Eh, I'm a gearhead and this has been all over the car sites, it's not quite that bad

Reply to Spider Jerusalem (Reply #2)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 03:23 PM

Sep 2019

Yes, the Feds can force Cali to not require stricter standards.

BUT - auto development isn't a short-cycle thing. The car companies have been planning, developing and building for the old clean standards for a while now; even if Trump managed to eliminate ALL standards and regulations, it's still cheaper for them to just bring the 2020-compliant cars to market.

This is absolutely infuriating, meddlesome, and completely non-Conservative (State's Rights durrrrr), but realistically Ford isn't suddenly going to rush a clean-sheet engine that gets worse economy. Hell, the pressure of the standards is why crossovers are now the best-selling segment across the US *and* Europe; people love them some SUVs and now they sip gas enough that even at $8-10/gal they're as viable as sedans.

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