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RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 04:37 PM Sep 2019

Zero Privacy in the USA - DMVs Are Selling Your Data to Private Investigators

If it makes money, out goes the privacy. Forget about any government protection. They'll sell your private data to make a buck!

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/43kxzq/dmvs-selling-data-private-investigators-making-millions-of-dollars?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=campaign_771950

You gave them your data in exchange for a driver’s license. DMVs are making tens of millions of dollars selling it, documents obtained by Motherboard show.

Departments of Motor Vehicles in states around the country are taking drivers' personal information and selling it to thousands of businesses, including private investigators who spy on people for a profit, Motherboard has learned. DMVs sell the data for an array of approved purposes, such as to insurance or tow companies, but some of them have sold to more nefarious businesses as well. Multiple states have made tens of millions of dollars a year selling data.

Motherboard has obtained hundreds of pages of documents from DMVs through public records requests that lay out the practice. Members of the public may not be aware that when they provide their name, address, and in some cases other personal information to the DMV for the purposes of getting a driver's license or registering a vehicle, the DMV often then turns around and offers that information for sale.

Many of the private investigators that DMVs have sold data to explicitly advertise that they will surveil spouses to see if they're cheating.

"You need to learn what they’ve been doing, when they’ve been doing it, who they’ve been doing it with and how long it has been going on. You need to see proof with your own eyes," reads the website of Integrity Investigations, one private investigator firm that buys data from DMVs.

"Under this MOU [memorandum of understanding], the Requesting Party will be provided, via remote electronic means, information pertaining to driver licenses and vehicles, including personal information authorized to be released," one agreement between a DMV and its clients reads. ... >>>

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Zero Privacy in the USA - DMVs Are Selling Your Data to Private Investigators (Original Post) RKP5637 Sep 2019 OP
They've been selling information about license holders for at least 50 years. NT mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2019 #1
There used to be phone books and I didn't really care... PTWB Sep 2019 #2
You can pay for services to remove much of your information. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2019 #3
When it comes to privacy... Newest Reality Sep 2019 #4
It's really how much you want to pay to have it scrubbed. I think the sky is the limit! And then, is RKP5637 Sep 2019 #5
Yeah... Newest Reality Sep 2019 #6
It's a bit of a racket to me. One can get a lot of info scrubbed, but all that's needed RKP5637 Sep 2019 #7
 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
2. There used to be phone books and I didn't really care...
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 04:48 PM
Sep 2019

There are still easily accessible tax and court records online and completely public. With just a few clicks I can find out the name of someone who owns a particular piece of property, then find out what their criminal history is and through social media, I can typically find out where they work, who their family members and friends are, and lots of other details about their lives.

The DMV probably ought to include an option to opt-out to data sales but let’s get real - there is no such thing as privacy any more. Not really.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
4. When it comes to privacy...
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 05:41 PM
Sep 2019

I think we may assume that there is some, but as far as personal information goes, there is a lot of data available online, it seems. I know that there are public records and so a lot is drawn from that.

When you look yourself up on Mylife, (which also calculates some sort of social score, what, China ?) or just look at the databases that come up when you search your name. Just the surface data is rather interesting and you wonder who is aggregating it all and how. I mean, I can see having one's addresses, phone numbers and such, like a phone book, but there is a lot of other information freely available like who is related to you, your political affiliation, religion, ex spouses, friends, neighbors, your car, assumed income range and net worth, etc.

When you pay, they offer much more, though and I have not tried that. And yes, I know that these are used as background checks, but there seems to be no criteria about accessing them, so Mr. and Mrs. Stalker would approve.

Privacy? Well, I guess you can pay to have it scrubbed, but I wonder how many people realize that a lot of their data is readily available, including court records, etc?

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
5. It's really how much you want to pay to have it scrubbed. I think the sky is the limit! And then, is
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 05:59 PM
Sep 2019

it really worth it ...

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
6. Yeah...
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 07:03 PM
Sep 2019

Looks like another opt-out, but with a cash catch

Plus, with all that data out there somewhere, somebody can get it if they want it.

It is best not to have false notions about what is private and act accordingly, I guess.

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
7. It's a bit of a racket to me. One can get a lot of info scrubbed, but all that's needed
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 08:54 AM
Sep 2019

is one still having it ... so more isn't necessarily better!

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