"Bodies Everywhere"

[sheshe2]

CNN just now on Bahama. This was a quote from a survivor.

My heart is breaking.

[hlthe2b]

1. Heart-wrenching. Some will likely never be found.

[sheshe2]

3. I read that...

That some of those rescued were taken to the hospital in critical condition and refusing treatment. They said they just want to die because they have lost everything. Everything including loved ones.

[Anon-C]

13. ...

[malaise]

2. I spoke with a Bahamian diplomat

She said the death toll will be staggering - it was a catastrophe. Entire families have been wiped out.

[sheshe2]

6. Agree, malaise.

I can't even imagine. They have stated that the damage and loss is "Generational."

[Eyeball_Kid]

12. ...more than generational.

Massive, intense, and devastating hurricanes will become standard fare in the Caribbean and subtropical zones. Last year it was Puerto Rico, this year, the Bahamas. Why rebuild on those islands when, in any given year, a hurricane will come roaring through and level everything again?

These are new times at the onset of world-wide climate change. This should be what to expect in the next year and the year after that.

Our collective capacity to explore the wild depths of stupidity by allowing Trumpy to get more than 15% of the vote will be our lasting legacy, and may be what spells our doom as a species.

[Ilsa]

19. It is probably time for a total relocation of islanders.

There shouldn't be anything there except a short stopover for tourists. Keep the population low enough to evacuate quickly and easily.

[bdamomma]

66. That is their homes period

people are not going leave some are going to rebuild. Their livelihoods are there.

Aren't we the same way?????

[Ilsa]

70. Not everyone. I've moved for better "whatever". The last time

it was a thousand miles. I've moved for better work, better living environment, more security.

[NickB79]

82. Nature isn't sentimental

She doesn't care how long your family has been there.

When the seas rise, they rise. And we're past the point of stopping them.

[lunatica]

25. The entire Caribbean is in serious trouble

The East Coast is too. It’s going to get worse, not better.

[bdamomma]

51. Our scientists

have been telling us for a long time about this, when are we going to act on this. This stupid regime pulled out of the Paris Accord, WTF.

The Amazon is burning and the ice caps are melting. I think most of know it's climate change and it can strike us anywhere.

[lunatica]

54. Soon I hope.

[pansypoo53219]

56. started when reagan got rid of carter's solar panels in the white house & the rise of fux gnewz.

they knew in the 50's. population is unsustainable.

[malaise]

69. +1,000

Cat5 storms are now happening with regularity

[lunatica]

71. Maybe if they keep hitting the East Coast the US will start

doing something about climate change.

It seems no one takes these seriously as long as it happens elsewhere. Maybe our government needs to experience major loss in order to do the right thing, even if only after disasters.

[llmart]

75. Yes, but Al Gore was just too policy wonky to vote for...

and his demeanor was a bit stiff. Many in this country wouldn't vote for him for those reasons. The anti-intellectualism has only gotten worse. A vast number of people just wanted someone they could "have a beer with".

Sometimes I think the US gets what they deserve for all their shortsightedness and emphasis on superficial crap.

[roody]

81. That election was stolen.

[llmart]

85. Yes, I agree and I know that but it should never have been that close.

Gore was heads above Dubya the frat boy with much more experience and intelligence and you name it, but the media kept reporting how he was just too "stiff". So it became close enough to steal.

[DemocracyMouse]

30. EVERY YEAR + worse each time.Many of us, alarmed by global warming, are now tearing our hair out..

over the devastation it is now causing. We have met a lack of concern by left and right alike.

Please keep moving the Green New Deal and other intersectional solutions to the top of our agenda.

No more quibbling.

[jberryhill]

7. Cinder block construction with concrete and rebar was wiped out

Looking at some of the photographs, a lot of the types of Caribbean homes that we'd normally think of as "strong" ones, have their walls blown down.

[malaise]

8. The thing is this was tornado strength with storm surge

and horrific rain to boot. Ivan wasn't this strong and both Grenada and Cayman were destroyed.
Few could survive this one - it went on for 50 hours.

[GetRidOfThem]

24. Don't forget the embedded tornadoes that come with hurricanes....

Saw the damage myself, both on Barbuda and on Dominica. When a 40 foot container is more than a mile from where it is supposed to be, basically twisted inside out, that was not just hurricane wind...

[malaise]

32. A man in Grand Abaco had a Humvee come through a concrete wall

He parked a 20 ton truck in front of his garage to preserve his vehicles. The truck disappeared - they don't know where it is. He is in construction and clearly built a house to withstand this - most of his home is still standing.

[Volaris]

34. MOST of his home... jesus.

[bdamomma]

68. exactly

mini tornados mixed in. Climate change is real, fuck those who don't believe it.

[GetRidOfThem]

74. A hurricane is a ring of T-storms...

Those T-storms might be supercells. So I don't know if theses are mini-tornadoes. They are not the biggest, but I imagine they carry quite a punch!

[bdamomma]

60. plus it hovered

and did not move.

[Pacifist Patriot]

63. Seeing photos of concrete blocks in shambles...

Scared the shit out of me. I just can't imagine.

[mcar]

5. Seeing the devastation, you know it's true

[Totally Tunsie]

9. May their souls rest in peace.

[11 Bravo]

10. If only they were an American territory.

Magically the death toll would be reduced to single digits by this administration.

[bdamomma]

52. Puerto Rico

is a American territory were those people helped??? Oh paper towels were thrown out to them.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

57. and over $400 million in aid was diverted to a stupid wall

The Russian mobster wannabe in our White House cares nothing of the pain and suffering he causes in Puerto Rico.

[malaise]

61. and the US Virgin islands as well

They were on their own

[bdamomma]

67. He's just a

thug/bastard. He will not be missed when he meets the grim reaper and I'm not talking about Moscow Mitch.

[11 Bravo]

90. That was my point.

The Trump administration underreported the number of casualties in Puerto Rico by hundreds, if not thousands.

[Bettie]

11. This is a tragedy on a massive scale

where can I donate to ensure it goes to those who need it?

[sheshe2]

14. There are some listed in this article.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/23bahamasstrong-where-to-donate-to-help-hurricane-ravaged-bahamas/ar-AAGLd2E

I read yesterday that a man in Tallahassee walked into Cosco. He bought 100 generators, canned food and chain saws etc. He spent 49K and they are being shipped today. The kindness of strangers.

[Bettie]

17. I saw that too

I can't give much, but I figure every dollar helps.

[sheshe2]

18. Nor can I, Bettie.

I will send what I can.

[AllaN01Bear]

21. this is the america that i love , not the nonsense that is going on in d.c.:)

[sheshe2]

86. Yep.

[Ligyron]

46. I just got back from Costco here in South Florida.

Truck after van after car were being loading up with supplies and heading to the Airport. You could see huge walls of bottled water disappearing into vehicles and off they'd go.

This has to be an absolutely crippling blow to life in those islands and it's giving myself and others here in South Florida pause. That could easily have been us and it's becoming more and more clear every year that it's only a matter of time before it is. We are seriously considering heading to Cali where my daughter and husband now reside, earthquakes and fires be damned.

As a child I wondered why the trees here seemed so much smaller than everywhere else I traveled to and for the longest time I figured that it probably just had something to do with the nutrient poor, rather sandy soil we're blessed with. I eventually came to the realization however, that those poor trees just never got the chance to grow for more than 20 years before being seriously trimmed by a Cat 4 or 5 hurricane.

There's no winning a battle with one of those monsters.

[sheshe2]

84. Thank you South Florida for your compassion.

Ligyron
46. I just got back from Costco here in South Florida.

Truck after van after car were being loading up with supplies and heading to the Airport. You could see huge walls of bottled water disappearing into vehicles and off they'd go.

This has to be an absolutely crippling blow to life in those islands and it's giving myself and others here in South Florida pause. That could easily have been us and it's becoming more and more clear every year that it's only a matter of time before it is.

[Hekate]

16. Direct Relief is excellent. They already have a web page up for the Bahamas.

[sheshe2]

23. Thank you!

[HipChick]

33. Please assist with bumping this thread...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=12443560

[Skittles]

37. people need to donate what they can

I donated to "Yachtaid" - I read up on it and it sounds very interesting indeed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/hurricane-dorian-aid-how-to-donate-to-rescue-relief-and-recovery-in-the-bahamas/2019/09/05/903ba688-cff4-11e9-a620-0a91656d7db6_story.html

[bdamomma]

53. Check with the American Red Cross.

nt

[bdamomma]

62. Anything will help

monetary donations, or non perishable food items, building and cleaning supplies. This is a world effort.

[RKP5637]

15. Horrible! Absolutely horrible! n/t

[AllaN01Bear]

22. no words .

[GetRidOfThem]

26. Here is a thought...

The Bahamas were ranked as a high-income country by the World Bank.

I wonder if the total devastation will change that ranking...

The World Bank currently has a damage assessment team in the Bahamas. One of the guys is a friend of mine...

[sheshe2]

28. How could it not?

There is nothing there. Tourism was their economy.

The body count is going to be staggering.

[obamanut2012]

55. The big money is made from off shore banking, then tourism

And, most if the Bahamas wasn't harmed, and they are begging people not to keep cancelling trips to Nassau, Exuma, etc. I mean, government officials are in the media asking people to still come, if their trips are on the islands not damaged.

[Liberty Belle]

27. I just donated to UNICEF's Dorian relief fund for the children there:

https://www.unicefusa.org/stories/hurricane-dorian-devastates-bahamas-and-bears-down-us/36277?utm_campaign=20190904_Emergencies&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_content=stormdorian3&ms=cpc_dig_2019_Emergencies_20190904_google_stormdorian3_delve_E2001&initialms=cpc_dig_2019_Emergencies_20190904_google_stormdorian3_delve_E2001&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIi_nvkaO95AIVBdvACh3ojgttEAAYASAAEgIYLvD_BwE

Some other funds I've seen could divert funds to Florida. This lets you designate it for the Caribbean where the impact has been the most horrific. Unicef says tens of thousands of children are left homeless from this terrible storm.

[Laffy Kat]

77. Thanks for providing the link. I just donated.

I trust UNICEF.

[SCVDem]

29. I visited the Red Cross bloodmobile.

Power Red.

It's the least I could do.

[sheshe2]

31. Thank you, SCVDem.

[Evolve Dammit]

35. Where is Trump on this catastrophe??????????

[Skittles]

38. doing what he always does

worrying about something getting more attention than him

[sheshe2]

39. He is arguing that...

ALABAMA MIGHT HAVE BEEN HIT TOO!

Nada on the Bahamas and it's total destruction. Haven't heard a peep about the Carolinas.

[bdamomma]

65. Again

it's all about him, he doesn't give a shit about other people or catastrophic events. So fuck him.

[smirkymonkey]

72. Praising himself, as usual.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Thank you to Bahamian Prime Minister Hubert Minnis for your very gracious and kind words in saying that without the help of the United States and ME, their [sic] would have been many more casualties. I give all credit to FEMA, the U.S. Coast Guard, & the brave people of the Bahamas.

Disgusting POS! Get more help down there NOW!

[llmart]

76. Better question is...

how much money is he and his grifter kids donating?

Yeah, I think we know the answer to that.

[liberal N proud]

79. Still trying to put it in Alabama

[bdamomma]

89. read this article: this is where tRump and Miller are.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/9/8/1884299/-Trumpian-malevolence-continues-as-Bahamian-refugees-are-harassed-and-conflict-is-sought-elsewhere?utm_campaign=trending

snip of article:

The M.O. of the Trump administration is to ratchet up conflict wherever it can, from enforcing visa requirements after the devastation in the Bahamas, to extorting opposition investigations in Ukraine, and now trying to incite more violence from the Taliban. It may be the only way Trump can gain reelection in 2020.

Follow @BrianEntin who is reporting from the Bahamas that people seeking refuge from the hurricane & who would normally be permitted to enter the US without a visa, are being forced off the ferry in Freeport. So sadly on brand for the Trump administration. https://t.co/yNdXiyQb28

— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) September 9, 2019

[MoonRiver]

36. So heartbreaking

My paternal grandparents survived the Great Storm of 1900 in Galveston (they had my father in their 40s, and he had me in his late 30's). I listened all through my childhood to Grandmother's story about that disaster. They barely survived. Her sister died. She carried my uncle above her head for a mile through flood water up to her chest.

[sheshe2]

40. ...

[doc03]

41. I hope someone other than the Red Cross comes up with

A relief fund for them. I can't imagine what they went through.

[GoCubsGo]

44. The Clinton Foundation has already sent a team there.

I'm sure there will be others. Doctors Without Borders is probably already there, as well.

[doc03]

48. Oh no the Clinton Foundation the Republicons

Will start an investigatoon.

[GoCubsGo]

50. Uh oh.

That means they might find out about that special weather plane Bill had built for Al Gore, so Al could fly around creating storms, in order to prove Global Warming. So that the Clintons would have an excuse to create a foundation to help people suffering from climate-related disasters for some nefarious reason that the GOP will invent.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

42. My empathy for those effected.

I have to avoid the coverage. But I feel for them more than anyone knows.

[sheshe2]

43. Love you.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

45. Back at ya!

[Mr.Bill]

47. Saddest thing I have heard was a Bahamian official

when asked what kind of professional expertise was needed there he said...Morticians.

That drove the point home pretty well. He said that was their #1 need right now. People who know how to handle large numbers of dead bodies. Health and safety wise, this is an immediate need.

They said many are being brought in from the US.

[sheshe2]

49. I saw that MR. Bill.

They need morticians. Ice chests and body bags.

They are embalming because they have run out.

[Phoenix61]

78. No words. I can't begin to imagine.

I’m a therapist and would love to go hop I’m just not sure what I could do. Maybe later when things settle a little.

[littlemissmartypants]

58. I saw an interview with a Coast Guardsman doing rescues.

He said that many of the injured had severe crushing wounds from traumatic contact with debris, cars and other equipment from the strength of the water. I imagine that many drowned. The storm serge was relentless.

I knew when I saw the first photos of Abaco that it was going to be catastrophic. I just got the errie feeling in the pit of my stomach and keep thinking "where are the people?" The absence of life is palpable.

So, so sad.

[bdamomma]

59. This one story is so heartbreaking

Why at this time do we such a vile regime in control when there are people who lived through something like this wouldn't you want the US to open doors for people who lost everything these are human beings, what if it happened to us, but then again our government isn't giving us anything.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/weather/hurricane/fl-ne-hurricane-dorian-bahamas-recovery-relief-20190906-5fs7quj6lngwdlbnrnox4nro2e-story.html

[Pacifist Patriot]

64. The bureaucratic hoops are inhumane.

The cruelty is the point yet again.

[smirkymonkey]

73. This is just heartbreaking.

The entire nation should be coming together to donate whatever they can to help these people.

But the vile orange POS is keeping all the focus on himself instead of where it should be - the victims of this catastrophe. I hate him more than words can say.

[Guilded Lilly]

80. Bumping. The heartbreak is massive. But the survival will is strong.

[spanone]

83. K&R...

[NCLefty]

87. I believe it. They said '7 people dead' while showing the initial pictures.

I was like, "No way that's just 7 people." :'(

[AnnieBW]

88. Identification of bodies

Apparently there are masses of bodies in the makeshift morgues, but they have to identify them before they go into the official death toll.

[bdamomma]

91. Whole families were trapped

and were killed tRump will get his, and I hope his ass will be tormented. Just go away.