On Rachel's show........HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE????

[a kennedy]

military planes STOPPING IN A SCOTLAND COMMERCIAL AIRPORT TO REFUEL??? HOW IS THAT ALLOWED???? WTF??? And the military is not responding to inquiries and requests. WTF???

[montanacowboy]

1. They are keeping the airport

afloat so that dump's golf course won't go under

the American Military is in collusion with the Dump Inc. Criminal Syndicate. Does that mean he has the military in his pocket? When the time comes whose side will they be on? The Pentagon is Refusing to cooperate.

Jesus H Christ, are you ready yet Nancy?

[johnnyfins]

30. Its time for people to testify

subpoena them and arrest the fuckers if they dont show. there is precedent. it has come to this. military not cooperating with congress? wtf is going on? congress needs to start defunding some stuff. this is absolute bullshit.

using the us military for personal profit. disgusting. now we know why he created the weather map diversion.

[yuiyoshida]

39. This is scary...

Could you imagine him using the Military for a coup? IT could happen here, does anyone remember the book or movie.. SEVEN DAYS IN MAY?

[mopinko]

2. and staying at his f'ing club,

where they felt like idiots because they had no dress clothes. and where they were over their per diem, and had no food money.

jeeebus.
please tell me the military is gonna turn on this asshole. i dont mean a mutiny, i just mean military and retireds vote against this sorry ass.
if they dont, my faith in this country is gonna get worse.
and it's already bad.

[shraby]

3. No wonder he started sharpie gate. He must have known this would hit the news.

[a kennedy]

6. and really tho....what's going to happen to him....deny, deny, deny

every request denied, go to the courts, it’ll take forever and we’ll never find out even after he is gone, WE’LL NEVER FIND OUT.

[Dagstead Bumwood]

4. This is the point where I used to say

Gee, what if Obama....? But, I no longer posses the strength to ask that. Amazing what a complicit Rethuglican Senate can buy you.

[Control-Z]

5. My jaw is still on the ground!

Like Rachel said, this is pretty much one red line that even I didn't think he would cross. Fuck. Just, fuck.

[johnnyfins]

32. if this line was crossed

and it was an undisclosed investigation, what else is congress investigated that we dont know about.

[bubbazero]

7. TO THE US MILITARY

specifically to those in the military, (Rachel Maddow's "pentagon officials&quot heed this warning: DON'T BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU!!! Look at where your money comes from--Congressional appropriations. DON'T FUCK WITH CONGRESS!!! That will not stand.

[PoliticAverse]

8. Why wouldn't it be "ALLOWED????". Last I checked Scotland isn't an enemy of the US.

Military planes landing at commercial airports isn't that unusual, especially when there is no US military airstrip nearby.

[JDC]

10. Happens all the time.

Unfortunately this does smell of cronyism. But what doesn't w/ this clown and circus in charge.

[Larrybanal]

11. they flew over about 10 us bases in england to get to scotland

it is not only unusual...it is criminal

[jmowreader]

42. Not to mention Ramstein Air Base in Germany

[B Stieg]

12. Kuwait via Scotland?

Oh, c'mon.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

15. Take it from this retired military air traffic controller,

It has nothing to do with being "allowed" or that Scotland is an ally.

It is NOT business as usual for military aircraft to land at civilian airports, short of declaring an emergency. This particular flight was transporting supplies between the US and Kuwait. Not exactly in the neighborhood of Scotland. There are at least 8 military installations capable of handling a C-17 at which it could have re-fueled in between those points. Plus the C-17 is capable of inflight refueling.

The Globemaster III is not the biggest airplane in the Air Force fleet, as it's primary mission as a cargo plane is to drop supplies to components on the ground, but it is not small. It is powered by 4 big Pratt and Whitney engines and has a range of 4700 nm.

The fact that this plane flew from Kuwait to Prestwick (which is 30 miles from Glasgow), instead of from, oh, say, Bagram AFB to the US, stretches the imagination for rational. Additionally, fuel costs at military bases instead of civilian airports are achieved at a substantial savings instead of the $11 million that these flights have cost the US taxpayer.

Once again, trump is abusing his power to enrich his wallet at YOUR expense. There is NO sound, tactical reason for that C-17 to have flown back to the US via Scotland.

[BigmanPigman]

16. That is useful info. Thanks!

[StarfishSaver]

18. +1

I often flew overseas on military and non-military government aircraft (including on a C-17 - yuck). The non-military government planes always refueled at civilian airports. But the military planes NEVER did - we always refueled at military bases. And, whether military or non-military, we always took the shortest route possible in order to save on gas and to reduce the need to refuel.

This stinks to high heaven ...

[Haggis for Breakfast]

19. Not the most comfortable ride, is it ?

[StarfishSaver]

20. LOL - No

The funny thing is that I had a business class commercial ticket but the C-17 was leaving later and arriving earlier AND I was told they were putting a 747 comfort pallet on it so I said, Sure! But when I got to the airport, they told me "Whoops. We couldn't get the comfort pack here in time, so ... " and I flew a gazillion hours overseas in a web seat in that godawful cargo hauler. And when I got up to go to the bathroom, somebody stole my pillow. But my Jimmy Dean box lunch was kind of tasty ...

[Haggis for Breakfast]

23. Arrrrggghhh --- Web seats !

But then come to think of it, what military plane is comfortable ?

[StarfishSaver]

24. Some military aircraft are very comfortable. But the cargo jets - ick ...

[Haggis for Breakfast]

25. When you mentioned web seats,

my ass started to hurt !

[StarfishSaver]

26. LOL!

I only did it once and I'm still traumatized.

Did you fly C-17s a lot? Are you in the military?

[Haggis for Breakfast]

29. Not a pilot,

a retired NAVY air traffic controller.

Back when I was in (when we still used muskets), you could take flights home/back between bases close to home, if there was room. ONE time of a C-17 and a few others - almost always in web seats - has given my butt permanent polytrauma. Seriously, I can only sit on a plane for about an hour before I MUST stand up and wiggle around, and it's been decades.

Just the thought right now has got me squirming.

[SCVDem]

27. C-130s

El Toro to Iwakuni.

C-141 Iwakuni to Cubi Pt.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

33. GD -- how long were those flights ?

There are few birds as uncomfortable as a C-130.

Loud, painful flights. And you couldn't sleep on them either. Too much jostling around. Engines too loud in your ears. And forget getting up to go to the head. We all remember the old joke about not peeing on your hands . . . well, it you DIDN'T pee on your hands, you must still be on the tarmac as you could barely stand in one of those old cans.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

44. I caught a ride on an Air Force executive jet

From west Texas to Georgia, leather seats that reclined, sweet ride for an Army E-2. Most of the Air Force rides I caught involved web seats, no windows, staring at cargo. But, hey, the flights were free.

[mwooldri]

22. Weirder still... RAF Lossiemouth is closer than Prestwick.

Globemaster III from Wiki says 2499 meters runway to take off... RAF Lossiemouth's runway is 2846 meters, more than enough. So runway space isn't the argument here (Prestwicks runway is 140 meters longer) and if that really was a problem then London Heathrow has the British Isles longest runway.

Definitely weird.

[trof]

43. THIS!

[triron]

46. You need to go on Rachel.

[pnwmom]

31. Stopping at that little airport instead one of the nearby military bases we usually use

is very unusual and very expensive. So is sending military personnel to spend the night at the resort instead of a military base.

But it's helping to keep Trump's resort's closest little airport in the black, and that's the point.

[triron]

47. Sets a very ominous precedent. What is the military prepared to do for Trump?

[avebury]

9. The Pentagon budget needs a serious overhaul.

If they can hand over millions of dollars from their construction/repair budget to help build a vanity wall:
1. The Pentagon obviously does not care about the men/women who serve
2. Have been given too much money if they aren't going to use it for the intendedpurpose.

If the Air Force can afford to waste their fuel budget on a public airport and put up airmen in a Trump Resort "
1. They don't care about the airmen who don't have a per diem that will allow them to eat at said Trump property without being out additional personal funds
2. Need to have their budge whacked back.

I am a Certified Procurement Officer in the public sector and the crap that goes on under 45's administration drives me crazy. He litterly is turning this country into a banana republic lead by a tin horn dicator wanna be. To re-paraphrase Grover Norquist, I want the Republican Party shrunk down to a size small enough to flush down a toilet. Forget drowning them in a bathtube. Send them straight to the sewer. They are evil incarnate for putting party before country and sucking up to Trump to the extreme detriment of this country.

[lunasun]

13. Who knows what other grifts he has pulled with military $$ if they have been silent or involved

[maddiemom]

21. If only the amount of time and brainpower that he seems to be using to rip our government off...

were expended on actually doing his job. BUT: his behavior while in office would seem to preclude that he actually does have the diabolical brain power to be pulling this all off. What is really going on? I wouldn't think Trump would allow letting himself appear a total idiot in order to line his pockets. There's a bigger deal going on here, and that is Really Frightening!

[Flaleftist]

34. Don Jr. orchestrating the schemes?

[maddiemom]

36. Oh, right.

Why wasn't I thinking of the obvious? OTH , the low profile Eric keeps and the good grace he exhibits when being the butt of jokes... a bit suspicious. Especially since Jarvanka were being set up as a "front."

[yaesu]

14. finding out that the nationl weather service and the military are lying to protect tRump

, blocking investigations bolsters my opinion that fascism is now in 100% control.

[Sierra89]

45. The National Weather Service

Did not lie about anything. The suck-up trump appointees at NOAA did, on an un-signed statement. NOAA is under Dept of Commerce, headed by another trump appointee, wilbur ross. NWS meteorologists continue to forecast, concerning themselves with public safety during hurricane season, which is just getting started. Meanwhile, with all the crap trump pulls on a daily basis, ask yourselves,, "Where in all that does the business of the American people get done?".

[Hermit-The-Prog]

17. Trump Tower is no longer the primary Russian laundromat?

[KY_EnviroGuy]

40. Yes, but now also a military air control tower and weather prediction center.

...........

[Ilsa]

28. Malcolm Nance said the military brass will claim that the

Stopovers were to check for security threats, etc, at the location in case the big dumbass wants to go there.

[dawg day]

35. Trump corrupts everyone who works for him

It's hard to believe the military wouldn't find a way to refuse to land in this outoftheway airport... but they just gave in.

The ONLY way we'll get past Trump is not to rely on the military or civil service, as they seem to fall in line because Trump is so utterly shameless.
impeachment... forced resignation.

[Farmer-Rick]

37. Never get in the way of Traitor Trump and his sex worker

When there is a cash cow to milk. Money grubbers doing what grifters and gold diggers always do, line their own pockets.

[BlueJac]

38. Business as usual

[MadDAsHell]

41. What's the alternative? Commandeering a private airport?

[Demovictory9]

48. must be true. no tweets from trump on this