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Preet Bharara: House: Scorch the earth (Original Post) dajoki Sep 2019 OP
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Sep 2019 #1
Public House hearings, please. dalton99a Sep 2019 #2
K&R onetexan Sep 2019 #42
The Department of Justice nor the US Supreme Court Iliyah Sep 2019 #3
And both were stolen, along with the WH! KPN Sep 2019 #9
I wish I could refute you. arthritisR_US Sep 2019 #48
The Dems had better roll into town with both guns blazing. Eyeball_Kid Sep 2019 #4
Screw comity and bipartisanship. nt Grasswire2 Sep 2019 #8
THIS! KPN Sep 2019 #10
Yes! Let's get on the phone, folks. Duppers Sep 2019 #28
Exactly! They need to know they have support. KPN Sep 2019 #29
Call (202)224-3121 BigmanPigman Sep 2019 #44
Hire Bharara to run the investigation. I doubt it will take six years for him to get results. Firestorm49 Sep 2019 #5
Good idea, though I suspect Preet has higher legal office in mind. OnDoutside Sep 2019 #7
Excellent idea! KPN Sep 2019 #11
While Preet is of course 100% right, the reality is that the House OnDoutside Sep 2019 #6
Preet for AG! True Blue American Sep 2019 #15
Well said. OnDoutside Sep 2019 #19
might be better to laser focus on a handful of obvious and egregious? stopdiggin Sep 2019 #33
I think we can do it all n/t dajoki Sep 2019 #37
Yes I agree, there's just so much grift, focussing on key ones OnDoutside Sep 2019 #41
Revenue sharing Roy Rolling Sep 2019 #46
At a minimum there's been dialogue between them. It wouldn't OnDoutside Sep 2019 #47
Trump does nothing unless he can personally "wet his beak" CincyDem Sep 2019 #51
Buy many cases of Snickers! SCVDem Sep 2019 #12
I hope in the fall of 2020 (OCTOBER) we aren't saying ..."We should have gone for the jugular." usaf-vet Sep 2019 #13
I fear you are correct. If we don't do it now, when? This fear of Fox News has got to stop LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #24
Absolutely cilla4progress Sep 2019 #14
Democrats are on CSPAN 1 now! True Blue American Sep 2019 #16
And... cilla4progress Sep 2019 #17
And, what True Blue American Sep 2019 #20
Wanted to know what was going on cilla4progress Sep 2019 #43
On CSPAN True Blue American Sep 2019 #49
It's the corruption, stupid! FakeNoose Sep 2019 #18
KICK! Hekate Sep 2019 #21
I'd invite all DEMS to use the military to line their pockets whenever possible too ffr Sep 2019 #22
Self-dealing is all he knows. moondust Sep 2019 #23
I wish. Kablooie Sep 2019 #25
From Preet's tweet to MontanaMama Sep 2019 #26
+1000 Duppers Sep 2019 #30
Your Honor... Duppers Sep 2019 #27
Bingo. dalton99a Sep 2019 #31
happens every day stopdiggin Sep 2019 #34
There's enough info and evidence to convict. Duppers Sep 2019 #35
but your post says ... stopdiggin Sep 2019 #36
It was an analogy.... Duppers Sep 2019 #38
My post was clear re: purpose of hearings Duppers Sep 2019 #39
Agree! True Blue American Sep 2019 #50
So blatant! kentuck Sep 2019 #32
The pace at which the House Dems have been moving is deplorable. YOHABLO Sep 2019 #40
Sadly the Dems Catch2.2 Sep 2019 #45

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
3. The Department of Justice nor the US Supreme Court
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:14 AM
Sep 2019

represents the United States of America nor her people. Barr is corrupt.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
4. The Dems had better roll into town with both guns blazing.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:18 AM
Sep 2019

They need to control the news cycles and open up hearing after hearing.

IMO, their Articles of Impeachment should include well over 50 allegations. And that would be a partial list. Trumpy is absolutely lawless. He's been committing felonies since before inauguration, and it's been a steady stream of crimes for which he MUST be held accountable. Do NOT stop with 3 or 4 articles. Go full bore. Show the US public that you are aware of everything and are charging Trumpy with everything. If YOU show that you are aware, then the public will become aware.

KPN

(15,638 posts)
10. THIS!
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:47 AM
Sep 2019

Call your Congressman and Senators, call Nadler, Schiff and Pelosi! Impeachment inquiry now!

BigmanPigman

(51,571 posts)
44. Call (202)224-3121
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 09:43 PM
Sep 2019

for the DC directory. 40 more Congress members have signed onto an inquiry during the past 6 week (and that includes Summer Recess). RESIST! Persist!

KPN

(15,638 posts)
11. Excellent idea!
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:49 AM
Sep 2019

I’m passing that along via phone calls to my Congressional, Nadler, Schiff and Pelosi Monday morning!

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
6. While Preet is of course 100% right, the reality is that the House
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:32 AM
Sep 2019

have had to go to court to try to get those witnesses, which they haven't succeeded in doing, as of yet. These are not normal times, which is what the Democrats are being judged by.

stopdiggin

(11,254 posts)
33. might be better to laser focus on a handful of obvious and egregious?
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 01:41 PM
Sep 2019

rather that a scattershot approach of running hither and thither after every little detail that crops up (and there's like 10 that crop up every day). We're attempting to engage the interest and concern of the general public (not known for a real attention span). So .. concentrate your efforts on the .. Clear, Easy to understand, and most Egregious, Toxic and Venal. Not sure if it makes sense to waste our time, or investigative powers, on all the small stuff.
(example: very, very few give a rats ass about Bill Barr spending 30 thou at a Trump hotel. That's chump change. {and apparently had clearance} And even the coal miner in KY recognizes it as nit-picky. How much money have the Russian mafia laundered through the same facility? Now there's a real story .. if you can run it down.)

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
41. Yes I agree, there's just so much grift, focussing on key ones
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 04:59 PM
Sep 2019

is the best approach. That Prestwick one hits so many bells.

Roy Rolling

(6,908 posts)
46. Revenue sharing
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:00 AM
Sep 2019

Prestwick Airport strikes me as a scheme where some of the $11 million in military jet fuel purchases could end up in Trump’s pocket.

I think they should look for some business connection between the airport and the resort.

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
47. At a minimum there's been dialogue between them. It wouldn't
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:23 AM
Sep 2019

surprise any of us if there were kickbacks too

CincyDem

(6,338 posts)
51. Trump does nothing unless he can personally "wet his beak"
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 08:33 AM
Sep 2019

You can be certain he’s getting a kickback. It’s his nature...like being an asshat.

usaf-vet

(6,165 posts)
13. I hope in the fall of 2020 (OCTOBER) we aren't saying ..."We should have gone for the jugular."
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:55 AM
Sep 2019

That is my fear. That we will be a day late and a dollar short.

Remember the lesson of your (our) youth.

It is better to have TRIED and lost than not to try at all!

If Trump wins in 2020 and we haven't hit him with everything including the kitchen sink.

Who will take the blame for the next four years and beyond?

LiberalLovinLug

(14,165 posts)
24. I fear you are correct. If we don't do it now, when? This fear of Fox News has got to stop
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 12:26 PM
Sep 2019
“Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we oft might win, by fearing to attempt.”

― William Shakespeare, Measure for Measure

cilla4progress

(24,718 posts)
14. Absolutely
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 11:04 AM
Sep 2019

Turn his volly of shit right back at him.

If they took volunteers, I'd be right there!

This is their moment. I believe people are sometimes called to a unique and monumental role in history. To step up. People who otherwise may have lived lives of ignominy, or at least some level of mediocrity or anonymity. But history and mere fate (timing? serendipity?) calls upon them and they become fundamental change agents. Churchill. LBJ. Rosa Parks. Sojourner Truth. Eugene McCarthy. Chief Joseph. Elvis. This is it for House Dems!

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
20. And, what
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 11:49 AM
Sep 2019

All the candidates are in New Hampshire making speeches. My spirits have lifted greatly listening to them. Joe and Pete were exceptionaL!

cilla4progress

(24,718 posts)
43. Wanted to know what was going on
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 08:57 PM
Sep 2019

Yes, I heard a little of Pete on Morning Joe yesterday.

Joe (Scarborough) was schmucky. Pete was wonderful!!
.

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
49. On CSPAN
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:45 AM
Sep 2019

They were all in New Hampshire. Each one gave a speech. It was a chance to hear each one. Amy really impressed me, so did the others.

It was my birthday, I was really depressed. After listening to each of the inspiring speeches I came away smiling, was taken to lunch, given a cake and ended the day thinking that maybe we can get out of this dark hole.

The staff say Trump is a raging maniac when he gets out of sight, growing worse each day. Scary.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
22. I'd invite all DEMS to use the military to line their pockets whenever possible too
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 11:58 AM
Sep 2019

Divert planes to blue states, do whatever deposits the most taxpayer money in blue states until such time as the red-state grifters catch on, that two can play at that game.

moondust

(19,963 posts)
23. Self-dealing is all he knows.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 12:18 PM
Sep 2019

It's all he's ever done. Bubble Boy wants it all and he'll do anything to get it.

Kablooie

(18,613 posts)
25. I wish.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 12:45 PM
Sep 2019

But the Dems seem to be so timid and do everything slowly and strictly by the book so that Trump can do cartwheels around them.
While he runs madly around decimating law after law the Dems will never catch up unless they break out of their self imposed straight jacket and take some bold chances.

MontanaMama

(23,296 posts)
26. From Preet's tweet to
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 12:53 PM
Sep 2019

the ears of congress. If they don’t come back to DC ready to roll, gawd knows what else the MF/Barr cabal will steal from us next. They get more brazen by the minute.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
27. Your Honor...
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 01:15 PM
Sep 2019

I cannot bring this murder case to trial because there's a chance the jury may not convict.



stopdiggin

(11,254 posts)
34. happens every day
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 01:45 PM
Sep 2019

realize you were trying to be sarcastic, but ..
you don't bring a case you can't win.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
35. There's enough info and evidence to convict.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 01:59 PM
Sep 2019

Way enough. It's a matter of convincing the public. And how better to do that than with daily *broadcasted hearings* so that even Faux has to cover it. This is essential.

What's the point of the Constitution if it's principles are not upheld?

stopdiggin

(11,254 posts)
36. but your post says ...
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 02:13 PM
Sep 2019
I cannot bring this murder case to trial because there's a chance the jury may not convict.

Now you have "Way enough" evidence to convict. Then where's the problem?
( I have no problem at all with hearings and convincing the public .. matter of fact I think that's what we should do .. but the "jury" here is the Senate, and they are NOT going to convict .. just to stay on point)

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
38. It was an analogy....
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 02:42 PM
Sep 2019

...of Speaker Pelosi's and of others who would hesitate beginning impeachment hearings.

And the Senate is not going to convict why? Because of the voters' opinions in their districts.
Because these voters have not heard the FACTS.

Take the example of when REPUBLICAN Justin Amash held townhall meetings to explain his position to his constituents who hadn't heard the facts and didn't know what he was talking about.
Why? RW media never exposes the truth. Those meetings convinced enough of his constituents.

Chris Hayes even play a tape of a woman at a townhall saying she had not heard those facts before!!


The problem in this country IS the media and that too many folks listen only to Faux News and other right-wing media.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
39. My post was clear re: purpose of hearings
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 03:05 PM
Sep 2019

Publicly broadcasted and media covered hearings is to get the info to the public who've not yet heard the facts.

The members of the Senate are elected by their constituents, are they not?

Case closed.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
40. The pace at which the House Dems have been moving is deplorable.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 03:23 PM
Sep 2019

They need to come back Monday showing some damn vigor, be confrontational, quit playing politics about whether to impeach. It's time to throw down. The House is making the Democratic Party look weak.

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